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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

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It's cool Ryuuichi. **** them. I'm not gonna let some bigoted 200 pound nerd idiot tell me how to play a game I spent my hard earned 65 dollars on because he doesn't want to stumble into a gay kiss. Why don't you guys play Dragon Quest if a gay romance scares you and threatens your manliness.


True. Honestly I can't help but laugh about how pathetic they are. You don't see so many female gamers screaming about how "ew." the lesbian romance is and how it should be taken out of the game so they don't have to deal with it. >_>

Honestly enjoy your pubescent immature boys BioWare. Really. <_<



They are not immature, but socially breed to feel they way they do.  You cant bring gay rights to video game, before it is fully accepted socially.

Modifié par Twizz089, 01 février 2010 - 01:32 .


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MY GOD READ MY GOD DAMN REPLY YOU AND THANE CAN HAVE MAN ON MAN SEX YES I SAID IT YOU GUYS CAN BE BUTT BUDDIES

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Twizz089 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...



It's cool Ryuuichi. **** them. I'm not gonna let some bigoted 200 pound nerd idiot tell me how to play a game I spent my hard earned 65 dollars on because he doesn't want to stumble into a gay kiss. Why don't you guys play Dragon Quest if a gay romance scares you and threatens your manliness.


True. Honestly I can't help but laugh about how pathetic they are. You don't see so many female gamers screaming about how "ew." the lesbian romance is and how it should be taken out of the game so they don't have to deal with it. >_>

Honestly enjoy your pubescent immature boys BioWare. Really. <_<



There are not immature, but socially breed to feel they way they do.  You cant bring gay rights to video game, before it is fully excepted socially.


Why not? An immature society has no right to stifle creative works just because they don't like some parts of things that happen whether they like it or not. Sure, you can limit choices in a game world where your character is well defined from the start, but Shepard is not well defined outside of being a soldier and even that is flexible. I can understand not all characters being bi, that would be unrealistic, but surely it should be a choice between all relationships or no relationships, not a choice between 'normal' relationships and all relationships?


Maveick_Vile wrote...

MY GOD READ MY GOD DAMN REPLY YOU AND THANE CAN HAVE MAN ON MAN SEX YES I SAID IT YOU GUYS CAN BE BUTT BUDDIES


Don't want Thane :<
*spits dummy (pacifier) out*

Modifié par Captain Jazz, 01 février 2010 - 01:36 .


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It would be interesting to have a M/M relationship in ME, but it won't happen. The majority of society is still homophobic, and the demographic Bioware is selling too you can do a F/F relationship, but not a M/M. Is it right, no but its the truth.I would love if they put it in though, and then have people complain about it, then ask them " well if you hate gays, why did you pursue a gay relationship" Ha!

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Jack is immatuer she cries when you screw her but thane takes in the rear like a man. o wait you didnt know, why yes you can have gay buttsex with thane

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A long time ago there were two cowboys alone on a trail.

Then they discovered they can sleep with another male.



Now they're having butt sex

Cowboy butt sex



S-O-DO-MY!



SODOMY...

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Mass Broke Back Effect starring Shepard and Thane

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I am believer so I believe what bible says, SORRY!!



"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" 1.Cor.6:9-10



But there is solution - FAITH AND FORGIVENESS:



"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" John.1:12



"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John.3:16



"and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations..." Luke 24:47



So: Believe and choose (this is not game paragon/renegade choose! Make choose In Real Life

that affects to your eternity.


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Captain Jazz wrote...

Twizz089 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...



It's cool Ryuuichi. **** them. I'm not gonna let some bigoted 200 pound nerd idiot tell me how to play a game I spent my hard earned 65 dollars on because he doesn't want to stumble into a gay kiss. Why don't you guys play Dragon Quest if a gay romance scares you and threatens your manliness.


True. Honestly I can't help but laugh about how pathetic they are. You don't see so many female gamers screaming about how "ew." the lesbian romance is and how it should be taken out of the game so they don't have to deal with it. >_>

Honestly enjoy your pubescent immature boys BioWare. Really. <_<



There are not immature, but socially breed to feel they way they do.  You cant bring gay rights to video game, before it is fully excepted socially.


Why not? An immature society has no right to stifle creative works just because they don't like some parts of things that happen whether they like it or not. Sure, you can limit choices in a game world where your characters is well defined from the start, but Shepard is not well defined outside of being a soldier and even that is flexible. I can understand not all characters being bi, that would be unrealistic, but surely it should be a choice between all relationships or no relationships, not a choice between 'normal' relationships and all relationships?


Because its not the proper stage.  A small gay rights victory in a video game is minor, and wont change anything, all it would do is cause the company to lose money, unless it has the backing of social views

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samryde wrote...

I am believer so I believe what bible says, SORRY!!

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" 1.Cor.6:9-10

But there is solution - FAITH AND FORGIVENESS:

"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" John.1:12

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John.3:16

"and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations..." Luke 24:47

So: Believe and choose (this is not game paragon/renegade choose! Make choose In Real Life
that affects to your eternity.


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samryde wrote...

I am believer so I believe what bible says, SORRY!!

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" 1.Cor.6:9-10

But there is solution - FAITH AND FORGIVENESS:

"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" John.1:12

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John.3:16

"and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations..." Luke 24:47

So: Believe and choose (this is not game paragon/renegade choose! Make choose In Real Life
that affects to your eternity.

Ya know i dont believe god is as big of a douche as the bible makes him out to be i believe he would be more carring and understanding than that if not then only mormans go to heaven

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Excuse me, it is possible to romance a varren?

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samryde wrote...

I am believer so I believe what bible says, SORRY!!

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" 1.Cor.6:9-10

But there is solution - FAITH AND FORGIVENESS:

"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" John.1:12

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John.3:16

"and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations..." Luke 24:47

So: Believe and choose (this is not game paragon/renegade choose! Make choose In Real Life
that affects to your eternity.



Was this necessary?

For what its worth, the word homosexual in the Bible refers to temple prostitutes, not homosexuals as we know today. So you fail.

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thats beastiality and it would be to funny to see a femshep get ass hammered by one

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And why not some golden showers here and there?

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well Kelly is into that stuff

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what ISNT Kelly into?

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Jethart wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

That's
impossible (besides being ludicrous and offensive, of course).  Sexual
orientation in humans isn't based upon one gene, is modified by the
environment, and there's evidence wide-ranging among the primates
(excluding prosimians) that homosexuality is a normal and conserved behavioral pattern.  You can't erase homosexuality from humanity without erasing sexuality itself. 


I
actually agree with you. I think sexuality is a choice, influenced by
environment - I don't beleive it is a gene (though I think
susceptability to it is).

On the last point though (erasing
sexuality itself), I also think is not possible, but I think it would
be great if we could. The world would be a much better place without
sex.


Calling it a choice really isn't any more intelligent than calling it solely genetic. People don't really understand the way genes work. Although not solely genetic, there is most certainly a genetic component to pretty much everything that is expressed. A phenotype for, say, autism may be influenced by environment but has a genetic undnerpinning. However, we  can't find the specific genetic code for this underlying phenotype because it could literally be any of the hundreds of thousands of combinations of codes.

So, I would argue that homosexuality is as much of a choice as autism...

(just so people don't think I'm uneducated about the topic or betlittling individuals with autism, I've been doing this research for the past 2 1/2 years...)



dcrypt wrote...

A long time ago there were two cowboys alone on a trail.
Then they discovered they can sleep with another male.

Now they're having butt sex
Cowboy butt sex

S-O-DO-MY!

SODOMY...


You do realize sodomy consists of oral sex, as well? SHOCKERRR! I know. So everyone who has ever had oral sex is just as guilty of us gays. Not to mention that there are a ton of straight people out there who have anal sex.

Modifié par biddypocket, 01 février 2010 - 01:53 .


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Twizz089 wrote...

Because its not the proper stage.  A
small gay rights victory in a video game is minor, and wont change
anything, all it would do is cause the company to lose money, unless it
has the backing of social views


Logic. My one weakness [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]
Damn. I hate to admit it, but that is a good point. They may not have the right to dictate such things, but they will do so with their wallets anyway.



samryde wrote...

I am believer so I believe what bible says, SORRY!!


You're not sorry at all, are you?
Sexuality isn't something you can just choose, otherwise I would be able to simply choose to find men attractive... I don't. It's like saying that you can choose to find that girl who you're friends with, and who you just discovered is crazy about you attractive, even though all you'll ever be is friends. Sure, it would be nice and maybe you could date her for a bit, let her have what she wants, but she'll never be the one that you love and all you do is hurt her and yourself in the end.

PS: is there nowhere that doesn't end up having bible quotes thrown around? The bible hasn't been news for 2000 years, and I truly am sorry about that.

Modifié par Captain Jazz, 01 février 2010 - 01:56 .


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biddypocket wrote...

Jethart wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

That's
impossible (besides being ludicrous and offensive, of course).  Sexual
orientation in humans isn't based upon one gene, is modified by the
environment, and there's evidence wide-ranging among the primates
(excluding prosimians) that homosexuality is a normal and conserved behavioral pattern.  You can't erase homosexuality from humanity without erasing sexuality itself. 


I
actually agree with you. I think sexuality is a choice, influenced by
environment - I don't beleive it is a gene (though I think
susceptability to it is).

On the last point though (erasing
sexuality itself), I also think is not possible, but I think it would
be great if we could. The world would be a much better place without
sex.


Calling it a choice really isn't any more intelligent than calling it solely genetic. People don't really understand the way genes work. Although not solely genetic, there is most certainly a genetic component to pretty much everything that is expressed. A phenotype for, say, autism may be influenced by environment but has a genetic undnerpinning. However, we  can't find the specific genetic code for this underlying phenotype because it could literally be any of the hundreds of thousands of combinations of codes.

So, I would argue that homosexuality is as much of a choice as autism...

(just so people don't think I'm uneducated about the topic or betlittling individuals with autism, I've been doing this research for the past 2 1/2 years...)



dcrypt wrote...

A long time ago there were two cowboys alone on a trail.
Then they discovered they can sleep with another male.

Now they're having butt sex
Cowboy butt sex

S-O-DO-MY!

SODOMY...


You do realize sodomy consists of oral sex, as well? SHOCKERRR! I know. So everyone who has ever had oral sex is just as guilty of us gays. Not to mention that there are a ton of straight people out there who have anal sex.


It's a song from Family Guy. Pretty cool story though, thanks.

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dcrypt wrote...

It's a song from Family Guy. Pretty cool story though, thanks.


Damnit, reference your sarcastic references! I remember that well :P

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Question is: why should Bioware add game content that pleases your sexual behavior? You should complain about every movie and every book etc featuring only straight sex. It's a canon, and homosexuals are a minority. And Bioware added homosexual content in DA:O and in ME2 too (i still have to see it)... so what's the problem?

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Erakleitos wrote...

Question is: why should Bioware add game content that pleases your sexual behavior? You should complain about every movie and every book etc featuring only straight sex. It's a canon, and homosexuals are a minority. And Bioware added homosexual content in DA:O and in ME2 too (i still have to see it)... so what's the problem?


It's not that they should as much as that it would be nice if they did.

If it was just another rail shooter with little story and no relationships, no worries.
If it was a more rigidly defined RPG with only the two options (1 for male, 1 for female) which are a part of the story and which are The Love Interest, again, no worries.

Mass Effect is very open however... there is a path to follow, there is a definite beginning and a definite ending, but you have freedom throughout; you choose where to visit, you choose what to upgrade, you choose who to fall for from a (relatively) sizeable group and they made that gesture in ME1 with Liara, sure, she's monogendered, there is no such thing as gay with the Asari but... it would be nice if they did.

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Erakleitos wrote...

Question is: why should Bioware add game content that pleases your sexual behavior? You should complain about every movie and every book etc featuring only straight sex. It's a canon, and homosexuals are a minority. And Bioware added homosexual content in DA:O and in ME2 too (i still have to see it)... so what's the problem?



I'm not talking about a movie. I'm talking about a game where choices are paramount and the ability to have a relationship enhances the gaming experience. I Cannot have that because you are obviously offended by it. Now excuse me while I go **** Thane up the ass and give Jacob a handjob so I can make more stupid people upset.

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So the problem is that Thane is not so much attractive?