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[handheld]

RyuAzai wrote...

I was actually thinking it was a language barrier to be honest. Sorry for not looking at your sig sooner pal!

That's awesome, never met someone from mongolia! (Off topic, but eh, whatever)

Handheld just edited his sig to reflect it as many a forumite ask Handheld himself this.

[Kozlovskiy]

Last time I checked. Not being included meant being left out.

[Switch296]

Look guys, when it comes down it, there will never be a gay romance option in ME2 or ME3. Its been confirmed by Bioware.



The majority of the community would not appreciate it, they would probably hate on the character, it would spark all kinds of controversy(Fox news anyone?) and its just un-needed. Probably only 2% or less of people that play mass effect are homosexual and probably only 5% would actually want a homosexual relationship in the game.



The way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment, having a gay romance subplot in the game would be distasteful, unneeded and would stop a lot of parents from buying their children the game once it makes it onto the news.



Gay Romances have no place in the Mass Effect trilogy, not in the day and age we live in.

[handheld]

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Last time I checked. Not being included meant being left out.

Last Handheld checked not being included didnt mean targeting non gay audience.

[RyuAzai]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

RyuAzai wrote...

Sure why not!

I also feel a little dumb that I didn't realize until I looked at my own name that we both use Ryu.  

Got Dragon blood in you?

Indeed. The power seeps through me after I killed the water dragon.

Haha, oh no we are opposites then.  I live by the Flame, and Fire Dragon

We are destined to fight each other, strange we think a like.

[handheld]

Switch296 wrote...

Look guys, when it comes down it, there will never be a gay romance option in ME2 or ME3. Its been confirmed by Bioware.

The majority of the community would not appreciate it, they would probably hate on the character, it would spark all kinds of controversy(Fox news anyone?) and its just un-needed. Probably only 2% or less of people that play mass effect are homosexual and probably only 5% would actually want a homosexual relationship in the game.

The way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment, having a gay romance subplot in the game would be distasteful, unneeded and would stop a lot of parents from buying their children the game once it makes it onto the news.

Gay Romances have no place in the Mass Effect trilogy, not in the day and age we live in.

Handheld cannot even begin to tell you how much there is wrong with your post. Handheld hopes you figure it out yourself or choose your words more carefully because that post is incorrect logically and morally.

Handheld doesnt think it would be distasteful nor would it stop alot of parents from doing anything. Handheld thinks that next time you post like that make sure to speak only for yourself.

Modifié par handheld, 30 janvier 2010 - 10:52 .

[Switch296]

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Last time I checked. Not being included meant being left out.

Sigh. Are you really so ignorant as to think every demographic should be included in Mass Effect?

If we add gay people, why not add pedophiles? Why not add people that have "intimate" relationships with animals? Why not add people that fall in love with inanimate objects?(Yes some people do that).

Its NOT NEEDED. It will be frowned upon by the majority of the mass effect community.

ITS NOT HAPPENING. Get over it and go live your life. 50 years ago gay people were considered "sick" and there was propaganda on the television to warn children about them.. you have come bounds and strides since then, your very lucky to have done so. Don't expect everything to happen so quickly, maybe in 50 years or so gay people will be more accepted and then maybe they will be shown in things like video games..

Until then, Its not happening buddy. Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

[Sleepicub09]

handheld wrote...

Switch296 wrote...

Look guys, when it comes down it, there will never be a gay romance option in ME2 or ME3. Its been confirmed by Bioware.

The majority of the community would not appreciate it, they would probably hate on the character, it would spark all kinds of controversy(Fox news anyone?) and its just un-needed. Probably only 2% or less of people that play mass effect are homosexual and probably only 5% would actually want a homosexual relationship in the game.

The way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment, having a gay romance subplot in the game would be distasteful, unneeded and would stop a lot of parents from buying their children the game once it makes it onto the news.

Gay Romances have no place in the Mass Effect trilogy, not in the day and age we live in.

Handheld cannot even begin to tell you how much there is wrong with your post. Handheld hopes you figure it out yourself or choose your words more carefully because that post is incorrect logically and morally.

Handheld doesnt think it would be distasteful nor would it stop alot of parents from doing anything. Handheld thinks that next time you post like that make sure to speak only for yourself.

dnt bother handheld

[RyuAzai]

Switch296 wrote...

Look guys, when it comes down it, there will never be a gay romance option in ME2 or ME3. Its been confirmed by Bioware.

The majority of the community would not appreciate it, they would probably hate on the character, it would spark all kinds of controversy(Fox news anyone?) and its just un-needed. Probably only 2% or less of people that play mass effect are homosexual and probably only 5% would actually want a homosexual relationship in the game.

The way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment, having a gay romance subplot in the game would be distasteful, unneeded and would stop a lot of parents from buying their children the game once it makes it onto the news.

Gay Romances have no place in the Mass Effect trilogy, not in the day and age we live in.

I think this is the total wrong way to go about this, and if these is the belief and reason why someone would do a certain action then it is WRONG.

Doing something because people are afraid of the controversy or because people in this day in age don't accept it is just stupid. 

The only reason things get accepted and then changed is people DO talk about it and do push against it when it is controsveral.

Think about civil rights.  Think about gender role and equality.

Now, for Mass Effect, I don't believe something should be put in just because.

This is creative license, Bioware has the RIGHT to make the game how they want.  It is their game and their story they are giving to us.  They shouldn't have to be forced to place in any types of characters. Whoever they are.

What is wrong though, is if someone went to an audition for a series on a TV show for example, and didn't get the part because they were attracted to the same sex or had a different skin tone.

There is a big difference between these things, and people usually mash them together.

[Switch296]

handheld wrote...

Switch296 wrote...

Look guys, when it comes down it, there will never be a gay romance option in ME2 or ME3. Its been confirmed by Bioware.

The majority of the community would not appreciate it, they would probably hate on the character, it would spark all kinds of controversy(Fox news anyone?) and its just un-needed. Probably only 2% or less of people that play mass effect are homosexual and probably only 5% would actually want a homosexual relationship in the game.

The way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment, having a gay romance subplot in the game would be distasteful, unneeded and would stop a lot of parents from buying their children the game once it makes it onto the news.

Gay Romances have no place in the Mass Effect trilogy, not in the day and age we live in.

Handheld cannot even begin to tell you how much there is wrong with your post. Handheld hopes you figure it out yourself or choose your words more carefully because that post is incorrect logically and morally.

Handheld doesnt think it would be distasteful nor would it stop alot of parents from doing anything. Handheld thinks that next time you post like that make sure to speak only for yourself.

I'm sorry but I stand by what I said, the way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment having a gay romance in ME would cause so much trouble. Its not worth it and it would stop parents from buying the game if they found out about it, because lets face it, the majority of the world does not approve of gay people. Not to mention the parents would be afraid that the game would turn their children gay.

Modifié par Switch296, 30 janvier 2010 - 10:55 .

[Frantaztik]

Switch296 wrote...

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Last time I checked. Not being included meant being left out.

Sigh. Are you really so ignorant as to think every demographic should be included in Mass Effect?

If we add gay people, why not add pedophiles? Why not add people that have "intimate" relationships with animals? Why not add people that fall in love with inanimate objects?(Yes some people do that).

Its NOT NEEDED. It will be frowned upon by the majority of the mass effect community.

ITS NOT HAPPENING. Get over it and go live your life. 50 years ago gay people were considered "sick" and there was propaganda on the television to warn children about them.. you have come bounds and strides since then, your very lucky to have done so. Don't expect everything to happen so quickly, maybe in 50 years or so gay people will be more accepted and then maybe they will be shown in things like video games..

Until then, Its not happening buddy. Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

LOL YOU SUCK. Not coming back on here to read your crap opinion. I really hope that you arnt gay because if you are and you actually think that what your saying is acceptable then your a backstabber without even knowing it. Truly sad.

[RyuAzai]

Switch296 wrote...

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Last time I checked. Not being included meant being left out.

Sigh. Are you really so ignorant as to think every demographic should be included in Mass Effect?

If we add gay people, why not add pedophiles? Why not add people that have "intimate" relationships with animals? Why not add people that fall in love with inanimate objects?(Yes some people do that).

Its NOT NEEDED. It will be frowned upon by the majority of the mass effect community.

ITS NOT HAPPENING. Get over it and go live your life. 50 years ago gay people were considered "sick" and there was propaganda on the television to warn children about them.. you have come bounds and strides since then, your very lucky to have done so. Don't expect everything to happen so quickly, maybe in 50 years or so gay people will be more accepted and then maybe they will be shown in things like video games..

Until then, Its not happening buddy. Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

I am with handheld on this! I can't believe how much is wrong with your post! No that isn't how the cookie crumbles, and those pedophiles? How are they are a demographic? That is a criminal act.

Just because people used to think a certain way, or still do now doesn't make it right.  I may disagree with what the OP or others are saying but I do believe in their cause and defend their right to have their voices heard as loud as they desire.

[Kolos2]

there might not be many gays in the 21. century,
hope there are lesbians tho, like Kira and  Ezri from DS9 mhm mhm

Modifié par Kolos2, 30 janvier 2010 - 11:02 .

[Switch296]

Frantaztik wrote...

Switch296 wrote...

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Last time I checked. Not being included meant being left out.

Sigh. Are you really so ignorant as to think every demographic should be included in Mass Effect?

If we add gay people, why not add pedophiles? Why not add people that have "intimate" relationships with animals? Why not add people that fall in love with inanimate objects?(Yes some people do that).

Its NOT NEEDED. It will be frowned upon by the majority of the mass effect community.

ITS NOT HAPPENING. Get over it and go live your life. 50 years ago gay people were considered "sick" and there was propaganda on the television to warn children about them.. you have come bounds and strides since then, your very lucky to have done so. Don't expect everything to happen so quickly, maybe in 50 years or so gay people will be more accepted and then maybe they will be shown in things like video games..

Until then, Its not happening buddy. Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

LOL YOU SUCK. Not coming back on here to read your crap opinion. I really hope that you arnt gay because if you are and you actually think that what your saying is acceptable then your a backstabber without even knowing it. Truly sad.

Very mature response, but yes, please leave and stop posting here as this debate has already happened ten times over in the last 24 hours, let alone since these forums were created. Leave the issue alone, Bioware has stated ITS NOT HAPPENING. Deal with it and move on.

[RyuAzai]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

RyuAzai wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

RyuAzai wrote...

Sure why not!

I also feel a little dumb that I didn't realize until I looked at my own name that we both use Ryu.  

Got Dragon blood in you?

Indeed. The power seeps through me after I killed the water dragon.

Haha, oh no we are opposites then.  I live by the Flame, and Fire Dragon

We are destined to fight each other, strange we think a like.

Alas my brother! Perhaps it was fate! My Ice Element and Water Dragon.

Perhaps this is simply a case of Not So Different?

Alas!

Edit: Switch : GTFO with the pedophile/beastiality arguments. A healthy gay relationship just like a healthy straight relationship doesn't harm the particpants. I can understand the rest of your arguement but the pedophile one can burn in a fire and die.

Perhaps it still is the fate we are destine to change!

Suppose to fight each other, but now united!

Haha, though it is nice to have someone think similiar to yourself, seeming to enjoy Japanese culture as you do.

And has the Dragon blood

[TCBC_Freak]

Let me explain economics to all of you. They would lose more money then they would make by adding male/male relations, here's why: the resources used to create said romance SUBPLOT (remember all the romances are used to reinforce the main story) would be better used in other areas that would net them an over all gain. For example, 2-3 new N7 missions increases the overall size of the game and uses about the same amount of space and time to make also it adds to the overall experience for all gamers not just the 1% of the people who post on forums (which only represents about 40% of the whole community) and complain about this. As most people who openly want this option will buy and have got the game regardless Bioware is not actively losing money anyway. And they are not bashing male gays by not including male gay romance, that's like saying they are bashing Muslims because they don't have an obviously Muslim character!!!!!! or, OMG don't buy this game it's anti-semetic, they don't have any Jews!!! See, you sound like a raving loon. I'm sorry but it's true. They had male gay relationships in DA:O and gained nothing, they didn't have sharp increase in sales, it was about the same. So why waste time on it when it's not needed and they can put the crew who would work on it into something else? Because it's right? Well, it's also right then that make sure they have an openly Christan, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Sadist, Pedophile, Rapist, Atheist, Black, Mexican, Chines, Russian, English, Gay Salarian, Gay Krogan, Gay Geth Trombone player..... you see where I'm going with this? You want to appeal to every gamer in the world right? We have to make sure no can post on a forum that they aren't happy and fairly represented, right? Or are you so blinded by your own view point you just think I'm a gay bashing homophobic bigot? And most people in America are not Homophobic or Racist, and it makes me angry to read and hear people post that anyone who doesn't want male/male sex in a game must be homophobic. Also, for the record, I don't care if they have male/male options in the game, I'm buying it either way, just lke I did DA:O.

[RyuAzai]

And they say Water dragons are suppose to be peaceful

[Kozlovskiy]

Stop it. You guys are ignorant!

Modifié par Kozlovskiy, 30 janvier 2010 - 11:10 .

[RyuAzai]

Ha! And I agree again with your statements about America. I love here, and I love this. But compared to the rest of the 'first world' it is exactly like you said.