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Ninja Mage wrote...
Ryuuichi009 wrote...
That's a horrible pic Ninja.
Why? Cause he's masculine?? You want the thin eyebrows and pouty lips
Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 31 janvier 2010 - 10:01 .
Tuchits wrote...
no ****s. they released a genophage . in year 2029 that got ridd of all ****gets
Modifié par Ninja Mage, 31 janvier 2010 - 08:53 .
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Sandiel wrote...
Tuchits wrote...
no ****s. they released a genophage . in year 2029 that got ridd of all ****gets
I'd rather they made a genophage to get rid of your stupid.
Ninja Mage wrote...
thanks for the compliments Ryuuichi and hot pepper person. I just want the option ya know. It doesnt have to be a graphic sex scene
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Ryuuichi009 wrote...
that's the only thing that irks me. Really. Liara is a discount lesbian and Kelly is pretty much a fling. So much for the days of "pushing the envelope." Eh BioWare?
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SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
Ryuuichi009 wrote...
that's the only thing that irks me. Really. Liara is a discount lesbian and Kelly is pretty much a fling. So much for the days of "pushing the envelope." Eh BioWare?
Remind me when was Dragon Age released again? o.O Oh you're right, damn those conservative bioware bastards...
I really hope bioware understood when they started putting out same-sex romances that they can never apparently release a game/series without them again, without of course being turncoats.
I agree the choices would be nice, I may not pursue them but it's nice to have options. That said, they're a business and they manage to push the envelope at the same time, I don't think they're required to do so everytime, and I'm thankful for the great games they put out regardless. I really just hate to see people throw little cheap shots at them like this. They deserve better, but alas that is the way of the industry. What have you done for me lately, all that matters is today, not the very very close yesterday.
In that case PERSONA was pushing the envelope far before BioWare was (and it actually intergrated better in the plot too) 
Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 31 janvier 2010 - 09:59 .
Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Of course because releasing to a niche market is the same thing as doing it on a far more popular scale right?
They are a business. I never said they had to place gay relationships in anything but to say "they constantly push the envelope." is..just not true.
Right and the very close yesterday is when they had the gay romances.
Anyways this is a silly argument.
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SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Of course because releasing to a niche market is the same thing as doing it on a far more popular scale right?
They are a business. I never said they had to place gay relationships in anything but to say "they constantly push the envelope." is..just not true.
Right and the very close yesterday is when they had the gay romances.
Anyways this is a silly argument.
To me releasing it in whatever market is the same thing, it's still their game with their name on it... the fact that the popularity is relevant just shows that people want a political statement to be made rather than just have enjoyable gaming. If all that matters is enjoyable gaming, Dragon Age having it is just as relevant as mass effect having it.
Also, I think you missed the point in the bottom part you underlined/responded to... I was mocking that way of thinking >.>, I do think what they did very recently matters as much as anything that was done in ME2.
Anyway, I think they do push the envelope, but if someones only idea of pushing the envelope is raging man on man sex... well, I having nothing to say to that >.>
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SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
You edit your post a lot, >.
Anyways just wanted to add, I don't blame you for wishing. I just get tired of people bashing them over the head about this. As far as consoles go, you'd be pressed to find many companies with any games out that have m/m romances. The fact that bioware has any out, trumps most of the companies in how much they're willing to put their name on a game with that in it.
Heck I didn't expect any MM in KOTOR because it didn't fit. (Didn't help that your only choices were Carth (*gag*) or Canderous (who seems straight and even if he wasn't is so "RA RA BATTLE!" that it wouldn't make a difference) so it made perfect sense. Even in JE it was slightly surprising (Happy sort of surprise but still...) DA it fit (Zevran sleeps with anything that even looks in his direction). 
) earned my ire. That's the sort of half assed **** I expect in those games with women with ridculously tight/short clothes that are just fetish fuel for the average hormonal male. I thought of BioWare as better than that. Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 31 janvier 2010 - 10:15 .
Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Pushing to envolope to me would be dealing with actual societial issues (no man on man sex isn't the only thing) stuff like rape, war, genocide, sexism, religious issues, sexuality. That would be pushing the envelope ME doesn't do that. [Well it did the last one until it was neudered in the 2nd <_< )
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SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
Ryuuichi009 wrote...
Pushing to envolope to me would be dealing with actual societial issues (no man on man sex isn't the only thing) stuff like rape, war, genocide, sexism, religious issues, sexuality. That would be pushing the envelope ME doesn't do that. [Well it did the last one until it was neudered in the 2nd <_< )
Hmm It's hard to know what you'd deem worthy, but I think me2 goes into genocide further than me1 did. A certain scientist who suffers from quite a lot of guilt and struggling with the costs of what he did. I also think Sexism and religion are just as much an issue as they were in the original, if not more so. Sexuality does have it's places in the game, though not on a squad mate romance level this time around. I guess I mostly feel like they deal with the issues as much as they did in the original, whether you're angry with them this time around or not... to me it just seems like they they still pushed those issues.
I don't feel like they pushed many of those issues as far as Dragon Age did, but I don't feel me1 did either.
olgaroni wrote...
It's difficult to discuss this topic with Americans. There is always so much overreaction and the arguments against a gay option are so ridiculous. Honestly the story of ME2 is not very innovative. What really makes the game interesting are the members of the squad. The romances are an import means to link the player to the game.
Kozlovskiy wrote...
That's not cool. What happened to gay rights?
olgaroni wrote...
It's difficult to discuss this topic with Americans. There is always so much overreaction and the arguments against a gay option are so ridiculous. Honestly the story of ME2 is not very innovative. What really makes the game interesting are the members of the squad. The romances are an import means to link the player to the game.
Modifié par Abriael_CG, 31 janvier 2010 - 08:26 .
Switch296 wrote...
Commander Shepard will never be gay, its not because your being left out, its because thats the way the story is mate.
Gay rights have nothing to do with it, Bioware is allowed to put whatever they want in their games. Your not being left out, your simply not being included. Grow up, get over it and move on. Just roleplay a character who isn't gay.
tomas819 wrote...
Why not just roleplay a Shepard who IS gay but, alas, will not find anyone romanceable in ME2.
Heck, if they did implemented it via dlc or whatever, I'll be super duper happy! But that's my own two cents, and no one else's opinion. 
Tuchits wrote...
no ****s. they released a genophage . in year 2029 that got ridd of all ****gets
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