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[Miniazza]

I lost Jack as the escort. She was NOT loyal.

[Solitas777]

I took my sweet time and chose Miranda instead of jack...jack was my sole casualty.

[adam_grif]

I can confirm that a Loyal Zaeed will escort people back to the ship with 0 casualties.

[Indoctrination]

vashts1985 wrote...

the kidnapped crew members have no effect on "no man left behind"

just thought i would clarify

I certainly has an effect on "keeping your lunch down" though. That Kelly death scene was way too graphic.

[Koross]

Chiming in to tell my experience. This is on a NORMAL playthrough in CE, with everyone LOYAL.

Picked Tali as the tech specialist and Zaeed as the team leader for the Fire Team. Tali died. I see alot of people picked Tali as the tech specialist and she lived, so I have no idea why she died on my playthrough. The only thing I can think of is that I choose her for the romance option.
Then I picked Garus to escort the crew back and he survived.
I took Jack for the Biotic specialist and she did ok and survived.
Chose Miranda for the diversion team leader and she survived ok.
Finally, took Legion and Samara for the final showdown and they lived as well.
So, final tally, on Tali was a casualty. *sniff*

Modifié par Koross, 31 janvier 2010 - 02:19 .

[Sir_Cabbage]

The funny thing is, having Zaheed technically makes it harder to finish that quest without anyone dieing... and with the rumours of kasumi being another DLC squadmember... well... this game will jsut get harder and harder lol



I am just dissapointed that there wasnt a quest line for him, so to speak, and you couldnt ask him for upgrades. What if his upgrade could have helped in the final mission?

[pdoherty3000]

well i lost thane when i had him be the leader of the group when i was with samara through the swarms and tali died when i had her be the lead tech

[pdoherty3000]

second try, garrus led the distraction group and survived

[stoopidboiy313]

Garrus got first team leader position, based on the fact that he's just a badass and also has experience with leadership when he was working as a merc on Omega. Survived.

Zane went in as my tech expert (yea, yea dumb call I know lol). He survived the tunnel, but took a missile in the kisser at the door. Figured no biggie, he didn't have all that long to live as it was anyway, right?

Jack works very well in this role. She powers through it. Morinth works just as well as Samara. Jack is the most powerful Human Biotic you could ask for, no matter Miranda's claims. Miranda doesn't survive if you put her in this role.

I used Miranda for the barrier role. She lived, but Legion (who was one of my two teammates) got carried away by the swarm as we reached the door. Both Legion and Miranda were loyal, so not sure what played into that.

Zaeed led my distraction team, took a bullet in the gut as we met back up. Poor bastard, though he seemed happy enough with his own death.

Pretty sure anyone can be used as an escort, though I'm not sure. I used Jacob. Him and the crew survived the trip.

Final battle I took Samara and Tali with me. Both them and my Shep made it through.

[Chris2112534566]

i dont know how i did it but i pulled it off on the first walkthrough...it just kinda happened

tali for the tunnel
first team i use Garrus to lead.
for the crew i sent Mordin back with them
then chose Samara to use the biotic field.
and miranda to lead the second team.

i kept Grunt and Zaeed for myself

Modifié par Chris2112534566, 02 février 2010 - 03:45 .

[KapNBly]

you must have loyalty and have purchased their upgrades that is all

[KapNBly]

if you dont have dinner with kelly she dies if you dont purchase facial scar unit dr dies if you dont purchase sniper rifle legion dies and so on what’s so hard about that

[Litos456]

KalliChan07 wrote...
-Escourting crew members back - (I've only chose Mordin or Thane so far, and they've both survived.  You may have room to play around with this character.  As in, if you do not have a loyal member, this may be a free card to save them.  I have not tested that method yet, as both Mordin and Thane were loyal.)

I think they will die if they're not loyal so no it isn't a free ticket to save them. I sent Jacob, who wasn't loyal, to escort on my 2nd playthrough and he died.

[griffin8080]

@ kapnbly
it's not that simple. All my guys were loyal and I had all their upgrades including the scar healing one and I still had team members die. It's just as much who you pick to do tasks as it is if you have their loyalty.

Modifié par griffin8080, 03 février 2010 - 08:13 .

[slinky317]

Mordin died for me - I'm not sure any 100% way to keep him alive besides taking him with you or sending him back with the survivors. The first time I picked Miranda and Garrus to come with me at the final battle and Mordin died - the second time I picked Miranda and Legion, but Mordin lived. Not sure what the difference is there.

[SpiritSharD93]

This is what I choose, as well as other recommendations;

Tech Specialist - Tali (Legion should also be suitable for this role)
Team Leader 1 - Miranda (Garrus should also be suitable for this role)
Barrier - Samara (Morinth/Jack should also be suitable for this role)
Team Leader 2 - Miranda (Garrus should also be suitable for this role)
Escort - Zaeed (Mordin should also be suitable for this role)

Possible Death Scenario:

I don't think Thane is suitable to lead the second team, as he got killed in my first playthrough of the mission. I don't know if he's suitable for other roles.



All squad mates were loyal. I was full-Paragon. All upgrades had been researched.

For some reason, Mordin died on my first playthrough of this mission when I left most of the squad mates at the end. When I replayed, I took him with me to fight the final boss, and he survived.

Modifié par SpiritSharD93, 03 février 2010 - 08:36 .

[puggini]

*TO KEEP LEGION ALIVE IF THE COLLECTOR'S SHIP IS CHOSEN TO BE KEPT, HAVE HIM ESCOURT THE CREW BACK TO THE SHIP.* - I have yet to to choose to keep the ship, though I have read this method does work.



I used Legion in my squad the entire final mission and he survived? I used Mordin as the escort and I saved the Collector's base.

[sljghost24]

KapNBly wrote...

if you dont have dinner with kelly she dies if you dont purchase facial scar unit dr dies if you dont purchase sniper rifle legion dies and so on what’s so hard about that

Most of those upgrades don't matter as much. I did not purchase the facial scar unit and the Doctor lived both times for me. I never romanced Kelly and she died once because I took my time getting there, and the second time she lived because I went straight to the Omega 4 relay.

I sided with Miranda and lost Jack's loyaylty, and Jack survived both times, though I didn't assign her to any specific tasks either.

On my second playthrough I didn't even both activating Legion, I went straight for the relay. Everyone lived (including the crew). I kept the Collector base just to see the ending, and then went and activated Legion and had the option to do his loyalty mission then.

I would tend to agree with most of the people here, it really comes down to upgrading the defenses on the ship (shields, armor, guns) and putting (capable) loyal people in the key roles.

Modifié par sljghost24, 04 février 2010 - 04:59 .

[korraz]

All Upgrades, all Loyal



First Team: Tali and Garrus

First Leader: Samara (Worked well)

Tech: Legion (Got shot in the face by a rocket. I'm pissed about that. And: Why the hell does THIS count as a death? >Legion< is only a empty hull to Geth!)

Escort: Jacob (0 losses)

Second Team: Tali and Garrus (Not a problem)

Second Leader: Samara (Died, the team survived)

Biotic: Jack (Strained her, but she got pissed and blew the Collectors away, no losses)

Boss Fight: Tali and Garrus (Survived)



I'm quite pissed at Samara's and Legion's deaths. I had somehow the impression that I had no influence, and of course: Legion is only a vessel! If I got him right, his mind still exists with the other countless Geth.

[Gerza71]

Legion done the tech and Escourting.

Thane scouting.

Garrus the other team 1st attack.

Zaeed the other team 2nd attack.

With the sheilding it was a toss up between Jack and Samara I chose Samara.

The big boss attack I had Grunt and Miranda.

Three died in this order Zaeed, Mordin and Miranda.

Zaeed after leading the other team for the second attack.  I should have Garrus or Miranda leading that one.
Mordin when the other team went into the Normandy before the big boss attack.  Should have Mordin escourting.
Miranda died after big boss attack.

[Gerza71]

Indoctrination wrote...

vashts1985 wrote...

the kidnapped crew members have no effect on "no man left behind"

just thought i would clarify

I certainly has an effect on "keeping your lunch down" though. That Kelly death scene was way too graphic.

So you have not played F.E.A.R.?

[KalliChan07]

Ulquiorra_Schiffer wrote...

I had Legion during the Final fight against the Reaper Larvae and choose to save the Collector Base,He survived. So i'm not sure as to why he die's for others when you choose to keep the base.

I forgot to update the original post.  He doesn't die if you choose to save the collector base, and not have him escort.

He's fine to keep in your party.  I personally have to keep Mordin alive by having him escort members back to the crew.

[marcelbel]

hmm, according to this guide, all should have survived.

I did all loyalty quests, got all ship upgrades.

I decided to send Legion through the vents, and selected Garrus as the leader for squad 2 (as he used to be a C-Sec officer, and i didn't want a Cerberus-person doing that).

at the first regroup, Legion took a bullet in the "head", and was my only casualty.

[KalliChan07]

KapNBly wrote...

you must have loyalty and have purchased their upgrades that is all

I didn't have any personal upgrades.  It's their loyalty that you must have and the right job assignments.  Follow the guide.