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[Crovax_PSO]

The human reaper you fight looks to be much smaller than the other reapers that we've seen. I think people have the wrong idea if they think the human reaper would turn out to be just a giant robot human flying through space. I think that instead, the final design would simply look like the other reapers but with the human head and torso integrated on it somewhere.

[TheLostGenius]

yf2489 wrote...

So what exactly was the point of the Human Reaper....The last scene shows the Reapers coming so why all that trouble. I'm guessing the whole point was just to stop the collectors from harvesting humans. So was the suicide mission based soley on saving humanity? umm because the Reaper threat is still...quite LARGE.

The main mission was to stop the collector's from abducting colonists. It gets more personal when the Normandy crew is abducted. The mission then becomes to get to the Collector's ship to (destroy it) and save your crew members. Not quite as grandiose as the first game, but the foreshadowing with the fleet of Reapers is all you really need to know...

Who here is keeping two saves, one where you give the station to the Illusive man, and one where you blow it up? So many little decisions, I wonder which ones will have a major impact.

Did the Arachni quest effect anything? This must be very confusing to design from a multipath-sequel standpoint. I bet thats why certain ME1 decisions had such tiny effects in ME2.

[Eradyn]

Crovax_PSO wrote...

The human reaper you fight looks to be much smaller than the other reapers that we've seen. I think people have the wrong idea if they think the human reaper would turn out to be just a giant robot human flying through space. I think that instead, the final design would simply look like the other reapers but with the human head and torso integrated on it somewhere.

The human reaper is presumed to be an embryo, and thus at a very, very early stage of development/construction.  I would assume that, as it developed further, the reaper would become larger and more "reaperish."  As it was, we fought a human-reaper embryo that would, I think, not look like what a fully developed human reaper would.  It would probably end up being a large ship-like construct with human-like features, but all this is speculation since Shepard wipes the baby-reaper out.

[jsog]

The human reaper looked about as far from menacing as an evil galaxy-ending monster has ever looked to me. It was somewhat of a disappointment, tbh. The whole "they look like the species they drain!" idea seems strange. It was made clear that not every species can be used to create reapers; the Protheans were incompatible, though most of the reapers we see do kinda look like squid things, so who knows.



I wonder if one reason they want Shep is because of the Cypher from ME1, though I dont think that had anything to do with his genetics so probably not. It's very clear the Collectors want Shep himself, though, between the things Harbinger says and their actions in the comic.

[LightweightJustice]

Well...don't want to sound stupid but her is my idea.

I think there is something wrong with reapers and they need to envolve.

As Mordin said, humans are the best material for genetic experiments and the most adaptive spices.

I think they need shepard as a perfect DNA model for their next step in evolution.

[Gonzonson]

Everyone's conclusions on the Reapers are made with the assumption that the Reapers themselves are the top of the chain. But when you think about it, having dominion of one galaxy isn't a lot of power. Sovereign said something along the lines of "There is a realm of existance so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it"; so obviously there is an entire higher community. Everything can be traced back to a bigger and more incomprehensible question. Why would the Reapers need to evolve if they had nothing to worry about? That, and why would they be in such a rush to do what they do?

I believe strongly the following to be correct:

The Reapers are actually involved in a conflict/war with a a universe-wide Reaper-like entity that wants only death and seeks no preservation. Expanding on that; this Universe-Reaper(s) is more inclined to "swallow" galaxies teaming with organic entropy. So, the Reapers let each species have there moment of glory (50,000 years) and then model Reapers after the strongest, creating their martyrdom.

In conclusion, the Reapers were created by a Milky Way species who realised that there was no way to overcome such an all powerful entity (pretty much God). So, they learned to live with them while doing as much as they could about the problem.

The moral of the series: Some things are beyond our control.

Modifié par Gonzonson, 01 février 2010 - 02:25 .

[DarthCaine]

The question you all should be asking is:

They build the Human Reaper and then what ?

[Leftnt Sharpe]

DarthCaine wrote...

The question you all should be asking is:
They build the Human Reaper and then what ?

1:Human Reaper(supported by the Collectors) attacks the Citadel and opens the Mass Relay to dark space.
2:Reapers come through Mass Relay.
3:Delicious Genocide.
4:Post-war paperwork.
5:Profit!

Modifié par Leftnt Sharpe, 09 mars 2010 - 01:03 .

[shady501st]

thepaladin1 wrote...

SKYNET has done it again.....my thoughts when I saw it:P

Sheperd  = John Connor

[Bwaksson]

The Reapers are probably just trying to evolve. After some time it became impossible for them to evolve on their own. They had all kinds of fun tweaking with their creators DNA untill they ran out of ideas (perhaps they have very limited imagination). So in order to evolve they let random evolution do the work for them. And every now and then they harvest.

Reapers does seem to be modelled after organic species. Sovereign looks like some type of squid-animal

But I would assume that they only choose to absorb a species that actually fight back effectively, shows potential. Whoever it was that punched a hole in the derelict reaper near Klendagon probably got absorbed too. Perhaps it was the Squid-animals. I think the Human Reaper larvae was an experiment



After all. Cybernetic Upgrades work both ways. If you get Cybernetics they upgrade you, but you also upgrade them if you consider them entities. So "We are the harbingers of your perfection" means we will make the human race perfect by adding reaper cybernetics to it.

If it weren't for all the "Vanguard of your destruction" talk I would have assumed that the reapers thought they were doing humans a favour.

[Hyper Cutter]

Crovax_PSO wrote...

The human reaper you fight looks to be much smaller than the other reapers that we've seen. I think people have the wrong idea if they think the human reaper would turn out to be just a giant robot human flying through space. I think that instead, the final design would simply look like the other reapers but with the human head and torso integrated on it somewhere.

I've seen a piece of supposed concept art of the finished human Reaper, and it shared the general Reaper design except it had a vague human face on one side and I believe hands at the end of those tentacle things....

[Comtar]

Alot of classic Sci-fi has had in the past, ideas that if you make something from a Human, you suddenly get the Human Spirit, or whatever makes us human.



Like the movie Dark City... has aliens experimenting on the Human minds and memories to figure out what makes us tick. At the end of the movie, the main character says "You were looking in the wrong place."



The Human Reaper could be like this... Humans were responsible for destroying a Reaper and thwarting the Reaper cause... something that yes, the Protheans didn't even do. So they probably thought.... "What is it about them? What makes them tick? Perhaps we can use their own power against them." So they made the Human Reaper.

[adam_grif]

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[Darthnemesis2]

Its reproduction, plain and simple. Reapers are an organic/machine hybrid, EDI says so when you get to the Human-Reaper larve. Organic material is liqified and combined with whatever else a Reaper is made of, fed through the tubes and formed into the shape of the Reaper. I'd guess that the skeleton we saw at the end of ME2 was exactly that, a skeleton, the internal structure of the Reaper. When it's finished it would likely look like the other Reapers. As for it being so small, EDI says its larval, an embryo. By the time millions (billions?) of other Humans were added it would likely be the same size as other Reapers.

To answer the question of what would it do, I'd say the answer is two-fold. First, and probably most importantly, its a new Reaper, with all the genetic knowledge and uniqueness of the species that made it. The next evolution if you will. Secondly it would fill the void left by Sovereign's death (as in open the Citadel relay) and allow the conquest of the current species inhabiting our galaxy.

[GeneticFreakN7]

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