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[Lmaoboat]

I wish they'd take out romances altogether, then everyone would be equally left out.

[Schneidend]

ArucardEcks wrote...
 If I want to get in someone's pants, I'll boot up a dating sim thanks.

tl,dr: regardless of gender and orientation, if you're playing this game for the purpose of a specific sexual relationship then you're playing it wrong.

...Does not compute...Why play a dating sim when you can flirt with nubile alien babes?

But, seriously, the people asking for m/m romances are just asking for the ability to play a gay character who is also badass space marine. It's the same sort of escapism that red-blooded straight males like myself and many others on the forum look for. We want to play a badass space marine that gets the girl like any proper action hero should. It's all about immersion.

Modifié par Schneidend, 31 janvier 2010 - 02:13 .

[biddypocket]

Lmaoboat wrote...

I wish they'd take out romances altogether, then everyone would be equally left out.

I agree

[wikkedjoker]

How about this, Shep might be gay, but who is to say anyone else on the ship is?

[Ibby1kanobi]

Why should a majority be left out for a minority? Ignorance is stunning.

[Schneidend]

wikkedjoker wrote...

How about this, Shep might be gay, but who is to say anyone else on the ship is?

Also a good point. Still, though, I think the gaymers ought to at least be able to have their Sheps flirt.

[Vagivan]

so shepard suddenly realizes he's gay in ME 3 after all that crap he's gone through?



i'm sure everyone around would treat him differently



imagine if your political leader was gay



yeah thats right, ridiculous

[Arik7]

Would people be that interested in talking to other characters if they knew there is no chance of romance? I think romances make RPGs better, but the romance options should be inclusive like in DAO.

[Vagivan]

Schneidend wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

How about this, Shep might be gay, but who is to say anyone else on the ship is?

Also a good point. Still, though, I think the gaymers ought to at least be able to have their Sheps flirt.

seriously

whats the percentage of gamers who want a gay shepard...

10%?

appeasing that 10% is not even close to the outrage that the other majority of anit-gay shepard people would rage

plus you'd have to spend extra resources developing the gayness of shepard rather than gameplay and story

not gonna happen

unless you make it a dlc only thing that costs money so angry people can avoid it and wont be pissed off at bioware for spending time making gay scenes rather than extra story

[Arik7]

Vagivan wrote...

so shepard suddenly realizes he's gay in ME 3 after all that crap he's gone through?

i'm sure everyone around would treat him differently

imagine if your political leader was gay

yeah thats right, ridiculous

Not as ridiculous as your post.    Iceland's Prime Minister is gay.  There are gay politians and leaders today, not to mention in the 22nd century.....

[Arik7]

wikkedjoker wrote...

How about this, Shep might be gay, but who is to say anyone else on the ship is?

Shepard is not restricted to his ship.  So unless your Shepard is the only gay person in the whole galaxy..... It's not a very good point...

[Vagivan]

of course bioware needs FOX news all over their ass again lol

instead of SEXbox

it'll be the GAYbox

[Doveberry]

I personally feel that there should have been same sex relationships in Mass Effect 2. But that's just my opinion. Maybe I've become a bit spoiled. Bioware have never shied away from this before, after all, so I was rather surprised that they should start now.

Also, Shepard is what you make him/her. And even though some would argue that Liara is not technically a woman, she still looks like one. And that makes any FemShep that found her attractive and romanced her a lesbian, or possibly bisexual. And since FemShep can have a F/F romance, why not ManShep? Why should the poor guy be so left out?

I probably should stop putting myself through the annoyance of reading these threads. Mainly because of the sheer idiocy that many on these forums seem to happily display without even considering whom they might hurt.
Brilliant example right here:

Kronner wrote...

boo fcking hoo

You also cannot have sex with a dog, horse, monkey or a female with only one breast.

Comparing Homosexuality to Zoophilia is not only offensive; it also shows that you definitely have not even put five minutes into considering what you wrote in your post.

Why, you ask? Well, I shall gladly tell you why!

1. Homosexuality is (really) healthy.
Homosexuality is the attraction to someone of the same gender and level of maturity as yourself. It is attraction to another human being. The brain of a homosexual man will react presicely the same way that a heterosexual woman's would, if they're both looking at an attractive man. This is the only difference between the brain of a homosexual man and a heterosexual one. But the difference is there. It has been scientifically observed and proven. To simplify the concept greatly, think of a homosexual person as a completely normal and healthy person with their sexuality reversed, by which I mean that they are programmed to sexually react as a member of the opposite gender would. Now, this "programming" is there in our human genes. It is part of the endless little pre-programmed details that go into making a new person. It can go either way in every child on this planet. A homosexual woman was born homosexual, and following her interest in women is the only healthy and natural thing to do.

The same can definitely not be said for a zoophile, pedophile, necrophile, or any number of other sexual inclinations. Without insulting anyone, I would just like to say that a person who has had a healthy upbringing, and suffers no manner of chemical imbalance in his/her brain will practically never develop devious sexual desires. A person who is homosexual, however, is this by birth and genes. Not by damage to his/her thoughts or emotions during their psychosexual development. This is why it's offensive to compare homosexuality to bestiality. You are telling these completely healthy people that there is something wrong with them, even when science show us that homosexuality is every bit as healthy as heterosexuality.

2. Homosexuality is (gasp!) natural.
It happens everywhere over the entire globe. In fact, as has been observed by science, there is not a single species on our planet whose members do not occasionally engage in homosexual activity. The only exception are species that do not have sex at all, such as sea urchins.
A few examples: Among penguin species that mate for life, same sex couples have been observed. They will stay together their entire lives, and refuse to mate with members of the opposite sex. Male giraffes will mate with other male giraffes more often than they will with females. This is a natural part of their social interaction and establishing of hierarchy. About one-quarter of black swan couples are homosexual. They will either steal nests or form temporary threesomes to get the eggs that they desire.

What is interesting here, is that while homosexuality is observed frequently, traces of cross species sexual activity among non-human animals is scarce at best. In fact, where it has been observed in animals, it is mainly among domesticated animals, and probably because an accelerated breeding cycle tends to arise after a species has been domesticated long enough. This is because selective breeding tends to be directed towards accelerated breeding capabilities. Also useful to note when it comes to this, is that cross species sexuality among animals, usually occurs among animals of species that are related, such as horses and donkeys, or lions and tigers. And such couples are highly unlikely to be found in nature. In the case of lions and tigers, it would be impossible.

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What I am trying to say is this: a human with the secret desire to mate with a chicken will probably find good psychological excuses for his sexual interests, were he inclined to explore his past. But he wasn't born with them, which is what makes this desire an anomaly. Homosexuality is something that you're born with, just like heterosexuality. It's normal human sexuality, plain and simple. So how could anyone say that the love between two men, or two women, would ever be worth less than the love between a man and a woman?
Especially when both human behaviour and nature give evidence to the contrary?

I'll finish with a nice little quote from The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and the National Association of Social Workers:
"In 1952, when the American Psychiatric Association published its first
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders,
homosexuality was included as a disorder. Almost immediately, however,
that classification began to be subjected to critical scrutiny in
research funded by the National Institute of Mental Health.
That study and subsequent research consistently failed to produce any
empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder
or abnormality, rather than a normal and healthy sexual orientation."

Interesting, huh? Who knew? All the thinking individuals in this world, I'll wager.


Note: I apologise for the wall of text, and at the same time I will add that I hope I did not offend anyone. That was not my intention. I just had a little case of this. Also, I get terribly confrontational when I'm tired, so I'll apologise for overreacting too. Just to be on the safe side.

Modifié par Doveberry, 31 janvier 2010 - 02:51 .

[Vagivan]

you guys fail to notice that bioware is trying to expand its market by marketing to shooter enthusiasts



chances are, most shooter enthusiasts would not be entertained by the thought that their male protagonist is really gay

[Vagivan]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Vagivan wrote...

you guys fail to notice that bioware is trying to expand its market by marketing to shooter enthusiasts

chances are, most shooter enthusiasts would not be entertained by the thought that their male protagonist is really gay

BioWare I hope you make the shooting element better than. And for god sake INFINTE RESPAWNING IS FAIL. <_<

other than bioware's games, how many shooters have been soft guys or gay guys

none i can think of

how many are tough asses, male and female

pretty much all of them

thats why they sell i believe

people want to relate to the tough guy not the weakling

[thedekker]

OHHH MAN MAKE THE GAY PEOPLE STOP POSTING THREADS ON THIS



ITS A GAME! A GAME!!



GO HAVE GAY SEX IN REAL LIFE!



and dont say that Liara was a lesbian option...Liara is not a male OR female.

[Vagivan]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Vagivan wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Vagivan wrote...

you guys fail to notice that bioware is trying to expand its market by marketing to shooter enthusiasts

chances are, most shooter enthusiasts would not be entertained by the thought that their male protagonist is really gay

BioWare I hope you make the shooting element better than. And for god sake INFINTE RESPAWNING IS FAIL. <_<

other than bioware's games, how many shooters have been soft guys or gay guys

none i can think of

how many are tough asses, male and female

pretty much all of them

thats why they sell i believe

people want to relate to the tough guy not the weakling

Have you ever played Metal Gear Solid? 

NM you be trollin' and I be not wasting my time. 

no i have never played an MGS game

and seeing from his appearance, how is he not a tough guy

tough guys have eye patches LOL

[NickolasDS]

Just face the facts already. Bioware has established the characters. Putting in a gay relationship will require massive changes, that I'm sure Bioware would not be willing to work-in.

[Schneidend]

thedekker wrote...

and dont say that Liara was a lesbian option...Liara is not a male OR female.

So, if it has a vagina-analogue, and mammary glands capable of nursing children, then it is not female? Hm. Kay...

...WHAT KIND OF LOGIC IS THAT?!