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[newcomplex]

Mooner911 wrote...

I'm offended by all the Brit accents. Being canuck-born I'm sick and tired of these great games shoving british accents down my throat. Miranda makes me cringe... and don't even get me started on Tali! While BW is considering gay, bi, lez, hetero, mono, omni, etc. etc. they should definitely consider schmoozing us Canucks too. I mean, if BW is able to cover the midget minorities with volus teddy bears, then at least they could add some touques to the armory. C'mon BW. Don't make me threaten a Canuck boycott 'cause one phone call to Canadian Tire and you'll be turfed out of Edmonchuck quicker than you can say "Eh???"

lol!

/hugs.   

Modifié par newcomplex, 16 février 2010 - 12:44 .

[Lightice_av]

Trangenderism represents a whole range of sexual and gender identity. As an example, Many transvestites are not clinically transexual, but rather are Autogynephilaic Bisexuals.

Transvetitism is an entirely different cup of tea from transgenderism.

For them, the idea of have a female body within the context of a male body (a chick with a penis, in short) is their main source of eroticism.

And that is a fetish, not a sexual identity. A very different matter. It's compareable to asking why you can't have your Shepard be into BDSM, not to why your Shepard can't be gay. The answer is the same: this game isn't about sex, it's not porn.



You're drifting into completely different direction from homosexuality, here. Your examples don't compare even in the slightest.

[newcomplex]

Lightice_av wrote...

Trangenderism represents a whole range of sexual and gender identity. As an example, Many transvestites are not clinically transexual, but rather are Autogynephilaic Bisexuals.

Transvetitism is an entirely different cup of tea from transgenderism.

For them, the idea of have a female body within the context of a male body (a chick with a penis, in short) is their main source of eroticism.

And that is a fetish, not a sexual identity. A very different matter. It's compareable to asking why you can't have your Shepard be into BDSM, not to why your Shepard can't be gay. The answer is the same: this game isn't about sex, it's not porn.

You're drifting into completely different direction from homosexuality, here. Your examples don't compare even in the slightest.

lol.    Fetishes ARE sexualities, and are formed the same way homosexuality is.  They are no more or less legitimate unless the pose a harm to society (like pedophilia or necrophilia)   Now your discriminating against every sexuality other then homosexuality.     Good one.    

Whether your sub or dom is as much part of your sexuality as whether you prefer men or women.     In fact the word homosexuals in the middle east to this day can refer to men who are sub, who likes women while a man who likes men who is dom is not considered homosexual.     Being a tranvestite is no more or less a sexuality then homosexuality.    

Modifié par newcomplex, 16 février 2010 - 12:51 .

[Lightice_av]

lol. Fetishes ARE sexualities, and are formed the same way homosexuality is.

Sexual identity and a fetish are two different subjects entirely. Fetish is purely about sex. Sexual identity isn't. You would need graphic sex scenes to make any sense about your suggestions, while homosexuality does not. Mass Effect is not porn - there isn't going to be graphic sex in it. As such, your fetish suggestions have no place in it, and don't even remotely relate to the subject matter at hand.

[newcomplex]

Lightice_av wrote...

lol. Fetishes ARE sexualities, and are formed the same way homosexuality is.

Sexual identity and a fetish are two different subjects entirely. Fetish is purely about sex. Sexual identity isn't. You would need graphic sex scenes to make any sense about your suggestions, while homosexuality does not. Mass Effect is not porn - there isn't going to be graphic sex in it. As such, your fetish suggestions have no place in it, and don't even remotely relate to the subject matter at hand.

You just changed words right their lol.    I never used sexual identity, I used sexuality.    

Sexuality makes more sense in this context too.     Nobody is confining you to a hetereosexual sexual identity in ME.   Rather, you are unable to express your sexuality in game.     

also, I now have better things to do .    Don't expect a reponse now.    

Modifié par newcomplex, 16 février 2010 - 12:58 .

[Chief Savage Man]

The male dwarf-zevran sex scene was comedic gold. Well all the sex scenes in Dragon Age were gold.

[Policyofnoreturn]

According to VGgames the game sold about 2 million copies (not $2 million worth) in the first few weeks on XBox alone. Since the OP only counted female straight gamers and gay gamers and omitted to include role-players of whatever sex who would experiment with same-sex romance if given the chance as well as straight male gamers who play a Femshep and want to romance a female I'd say the numbers in favor of same-sex romance are much higher.

The problem is we don't know how many of these gamers will/would not buy the game because of the omission of same-sex romance. Taking myself as an example, I'm a straight male and I originally applied for a refund to my pre-order on the Digital deluxe edition but EA sales messed up and never reacted - I got charged and decided I might as well play the game (and since I was curious about ME2 having enjoyed ME1 I went along instead of putting up a fight).

The upshot is that the game is out and we can't change it and although Bioware can certainly patch the game I think it all comes down to whether you're willing to support ME3 when it comes out.

Modifié par Policyofnoreturn, 16 février 2010 - 01:09 .

[orpheus333]

This is assuming that all gay men and women see same-sex relationships as needed or even wanted within a Space-Opera RPG/Shooter. That the lack of these plot points are deal breakers to the the majority of gay gamers.

[Sean]

You forgot about the guy who plays Shepard, Mark Meer, might not be gay and prefers not read gay lines

if he doesn't want to then why should he?
if he quits then it would ****** a whole bunch of people off with Shepard sounding different

[Policyofnoreturn]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

You forgot about the guy who plays Shepard, Mark Meer, might not be gay and prefers not read gay lines

if he doesn't want to then why should he?
if he quits then it would ****** a whole bunch of people off with Shepard sounding different

Any actor worth his salt, and I'm sure Meer and Hale fit the bill, play roles (not themselves). That argument just does not hold water.

[DaeJi]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

You forgot about the guy who plays Shepard, Mark Meer, might not be gay and prefers not read gay lines

if he doesn't want to then why should he?
if he quits then it would ****** a whole bunch of people off with Shepard sounding different

There is a hidden romance in the first Mass Effect game with a male Shepard and Kaiden. Voiced and animated. With a male Shepard saying that he only likes men.

I don't think he has a problem with it.

*edit* Here's the link: www.youtube.com/watch

Skip ahead to 00.25; "I'm only interested in men."

Modifié par DaeJi, 16 février 2010 - 01:44 .

[Sean]

Policyofnoreturn wrote...

Any actor worth his salt, and I'm sure Meer and Hale fit the bill, play roles (not themselves). That argument just does not hold water.

Yeah it does, why should an actor be forced to do something that he doesn't want to do?
Sure, theres money, but most people still have a line

DaeJi wrote...

There is a hidden romance in the first
Mass Effect game with a male Shepard and Kaiden. Voiced and animated.
With a male Shepard saying that he only likes men.

I don't think he has a problem with it.

never knew about that, lol

I guess they just choose whatever will go towards the majority of gamers

[BellaStrega]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

You forgot about the guy who plays Shepard, Mark Meer, might not be gay and prefers not read gay lines

if he doesn't want to then why should he?
if he quits then it would ****** a whole bunch of people off with Shepard sounding different

Didn't they have all of the appropriate voice actors record lines for both male and female Shepards?  As in, all six romances have lines voiced by Mark Meers and Jennifer Hale?  And the romantic partners all have lines voiced for male as well as female Shepards  (although I  think there's not much difference?).

[Policyofnoreturn]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

Policyofnoreturn wrote...

Any actor worth his salt, and I'm sure Meer and Hale fit the bill, play roles (not themselves). That argument just does not hold water.

Yeah it does, why should an actor be forced to do something that he doesn't want to do?
Sure, theres money, but most people still have a line

Hmm, actors play people they are not - murderers, psycopaths, heroes etc. I'm sure everyone has a line but voicing a few lines of mostly gender-neutral romance has to go under most radars.....