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Is a reason given to Wilson's betrayal?


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packardbell

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It seems completely out of the blue and no motive was given... anyone got any ideas? 

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SnowHeart1

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I never saw one, no. Maybe I missed it? It was a huge question for me at the time, but I forgot about it as the game went on.

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JudgeQwerty

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You know, I've completed every loyalty mission and I still haven't found out what was up with that.

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Well, jealousy?

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Probably the money, one of the audio logs makes a reference to the cost of the project, and how he would like a piece of that. It could just be an offhand statement, but it's a possibility.

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I'm going to guess the collectors got to him and asked to kill all cerberus staff so they could capture Shepard?



it really irks me through.

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Wilson didn't feel he was being paid enough, and was probably jealous of Miranda being the boss even though he himself is a genius scientist. Also, Miranda was apparently a bit of a **** to him.

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I didnt find an answer to this either. It seems that Shepard is correct about having a person alive means you can find out about these things. Once they are dead you do not have the option anymore.

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JudgeQwerty

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But WHO was he working for? Alliance? Shadow Broker? Collectors? Quarian ninjas?

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packardbell

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Probably freelance, Shadow Broker probably contracted him.




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There's not even any proof he did it. It was probably Miranda.

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Probably wasn't working for anyone, he was a mad genious. He was jealous about not getting the glory, and money. He wanted more, didn't get it and decided to do something about it.

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The fact that 1) he felt he wasn't being paid enough for his work, and 2) Miranda apparently gave him no respect and 3) he was going to get very little recognition for one of the greatest achievements in medical history would have made him a prime candidate for subversion by the Collectors or the Shadow Broker.

Maybe it will be revealed in the Redemption comics? Nothing more is said of his motivations in the game.

Or, what if Liara put him up to it to get Shepard out of Cerberus' hands? 

Modifié par marshalleck, 30 janvier 2010 - 04:45 .


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Schneidend wrote...

Wilson didn't feel he was being paid enough, and was probably jealous of Miranda being the boss even though he himself is a genius scientist. Also, Miranda was apparently a bit of a **** to him.

That would be a pretty flimsy explanation, imo.  "I'm ticked off at my boss, so I'm going to go on a homocidal rage and kill everyone at this facility."  Posted Image  He gets nothing out of it.  And he came across as a fundamentally cowardly person; not a sociopath (not that the two are mutually exclusive, just sayin').  And blowing the place up doesn't mean he gets any money.  Not unless he was doing it for someone who was going to pay him for it; and we never found that out.

Maybe it's buried in an N7 mission, but I had a terrible time finding those.

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I have a theory Wilson was innocent and the mechs were infected by the same virus from those side mission, if anyone remembers what I'm talking about. Next paythrough, I'll bring Mireanda and Jacob to see if they react.

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SnowHeart1 wrote...
That would be a pretty flimsy explanation, imo.  "I'm ticked off at my boss, so I'm going to go on a homocidal rage and kill everyone at this facility."  Posted Image  He gets nothing out of it.  And he came across as a fundamentally cowardly person; not a sociopath (not that the two are mutually exclusive, just sayin').  And blowing the place up doesn't mean he gets any money.  Not unless he was doing it for someone who was going to pay him for it; and we never found that out.

Maybe it's buried in an N7 mission, but I had a terrible time finding those.


I'd say, given that his motivations were money and a lack of recognition/respect, it's likely that he was easily convinced to commit the betrayal by the Shadow Broker.

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JudgeQwerty wrote...

I have a theory Wilson was innocent and the mechs were infected by the same virus from those side mission, if anyone remembers what I'm talking about. Next paythrough, I'll bring Mireanda and Jacob to see if they react.

Yup.  That's one of the few N7 missions I found and played.  But, those mechs would also randomly blow up, whereas there was no indication the ones on the Cerberus station were doing that.

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JudgeQwerty wrote...

I have a theory Wilson was innocent and the mechs were infected by the same virus from those side mission, if anyone remembers what I'm talking about. Next paythrough, I'll bring Mireanda and Jacob to see if they react.


Quite plausible, although I doubt that there will be additional dialogue.

Modifié par Dr. Peter Venkman, 30 janvier 2010 - 04:53 .


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He doesn't have to be getting anything, he could just have wanted to **** things up because he was really pissed off. People do it all over the world. People take an assault rifle, walk into their workplace and start shooting. No one is paying them, they are just so angry.

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Wintermist wrote...

He doesn't have to be getting anything, he could just have wanted to **** things up because he was really pissed off. People do it all over the world. People take an assault rifle, walk into their workplace and start shooting. No one is paying them, they are just so angry.

Yes, but Wilson didn't match that profile at all.  Sorry, I'm just not buying that explanation at all.

Scene:  ME2 writers sitting around at table.
Writer One:  Gosh, we've got this great story, but I have no idea how to begin the opening.
Writer Two:  I know.  How about it starts on this science station, and there is a huge fight going on?
One:  Yes!  Brilliant.  But what's the explanation for the fight?
*writers ponder*
Two:  I've got it!  Someone just decides he's a disgruntled worker, used to work at the intergalactic post office, and just decides to kill everyone.
One:  But... um... that has nothing to do with the story, whatsoever, and is completely random.  Our big opening to this fabulous sequel is just going to be, "Guy goes crazy and kills everyone?"
Two:  Well... yes.  I mean, I came up with the that huge plot twist to explain the collector's origin... I'm just tapped out of ideas.
One:  That's true.  I give up, this is too hard.  Okay, random guy with a psychotic break it is.

Posted Image  Yeah, sorry, I'm just not buying it.

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Neighbour: "He was always such a nice guy, I never thought he could do such a thing".

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it will probably be a chekhov's gun (look it up in wikipedia if you dont know what that means) that will be answered in ME3

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SnowHeart1 wrote...

Posted Image  Yeah, sorry, I'm just not buying it.


He was disgruntled, but that's probably not why he sabotaged the station. He was probably paid by the Shadow Broker, a high-level anti-Cerberus official in the Alliance, or perhaps even the Collectors. Really, I wouldn't put it past the Illusive Man to pay Wilson to sabotage the project to test RevivdedShep's combat abilities and ability to work with Jacob and Miranda in a Zanatos Gambit.

Modifié par Schneidend, 30 janvier 2010 - 05:05 .


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I guess Wilson waited until Shepard's recovery was in its final stages to start his plan.

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Dr. Peter Venkman

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He was pissed because Miranda had the hots for a dead guy on an operating table, and not him.