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Satanic Hamster

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So let me get this straight:
I find a Geth.  Take it on board.  And of ALL the rooms to store it in, I put it in the computer core room?

And then I take the ship offline to install alien technology.  So I go on a mission with EVERYONE packed into a tiny shuttle for no reason (and there's not even a mission), leaving the ship parked in the middle of no where?  Why didn't I do this in, say, Citadel space?  

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Haha, I just played this part this morning and was all 'WTF? Shepard?!' Thankfully things righted themselves.

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Hehe yeah, this is how I reacted as well. Very careless.

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Because there was no reason to expect an attack, sure if they got the IFF from the collector ship they might of been suspicious, but they found it on a derelict reaper where only husks were found.. there was no indication the collectors got to it at all.




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Joker curses Shepherd the hell out for leaving them there and getting the crew taken.

packardbell wrote...

Because there was no reason to
expect an attack, sure if they got the IFF from the collector ship they
might of been suspicious, but they found it on a derelict reaper where
only husks were found.. there was no indication the collectors got to
it at all.

Only the Collectors had attacked before...with the
same ship no less. It was stupid not to dock the ship somewhere.

Also, what the hell mission did the squad go on? Shopping for groceries?

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Modifié par LucidStrike, 30 janvier 2010 - 05:14 .


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[OOPS]

Modifié par LucidStrike, 30 janvier 2010 - 05:14 .


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Turns out alright in the end in so far as Legion seems to develop respect for EDI enough that I dont think there will be a problem in the future. EDI herself 'changes' enough so that she is very protective of her fellow crewmates and wouldnt allow anything to happen intentionally. Heck the whole bit with Joker seems to have been a major turning point in the way she feels because we cared about her.

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Satanic Hamster wrote...

So let me get this straight:
I find a Geth.  Take it on board.  And of ALL the rooms to store it in, I put it in the computer core room?

And then I take the ship offline to install alien technology.  So I go on a mission with EVERYONE packed into a tiny shuttle for no reason (and there's not even a mission), leaving the ship parked in the middle of no where?  Why didn't I do this in, say, Citadel space?  


um, I did this at the citadel lol. I was going to go down to take care of a side quest AT THE CITADEL, and this happend. I found this just kinda funny.

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EDI can't affect the Normandy's systems personally. That's why Joker has to connect her directly to the Normandy for her to save the ship. The danger in Legion is that he could hack the ship from ANYWHERE. Where you put him on the ship doesn't even matter.

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LucidStrike wrote...

Joker curses Shepherd the hell out for leaving them there and getting the crew taken.


Ah, ****! ****!

What the ****?

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Lol, that was awesome.

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Schneidend wrote...

EDI can't affect the Normandy's systems personally. That's why Joker has to connect her directly to the Normandy for her to save the ship. The danger in Legion is that he could hack the ship from ANYWHERE. Where you put him on the ship doesn't even matter.

EDI seems pretty confident that the precautions were adequate. EDI's pretty advanced, I doubt Legion would have n easy time hacking EDI.

That said, Legion isn't like that, anyway.

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Satanic Hamster wrote...

So let me get this straight:
I find a Geth.  Take it on board.  And of ALL the rooms to store it in, I put it in the computer core room?

And then I take the ship offline to install alien technology.  So I go on a mission with EVERYONE packed into a tiny shuttle for no reason (and there's not even a mission), leaving the ship parked in the middle of no where?  Why didn't I do this in, say, Citadel space?  

I wondered the exact same thing... I'd have put the Geth in the observation room, wouldn't have been installing Reaver tech in the middle of nowhere all by myself, and certainly wouldn't have taken the entire team out all at once...

I also wondered about the IFF you get. It's supposedly from a 30-something MILLION year old reaver. Wouldn't their technology have changed a little since then? Like different codes for the IFF and such? Just sayin'...

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LucidStrike wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

EDI can't affect the Normandy's systems personally. That's why Joker has to connect her directly to the Normandy for her to save the ship. The danger in Legion is that he could hack the ship from ANYWHERE. Where you put him on the ship doesn't even matter.

EDI seems pretty confident that the precautions were adequate. EDI's pretty advanced, I doubt Legion would have n easy time hacking EDI.

That said, Legion isn't like that, anyway.

:bandit:


Well, obviously, I'm not implying that Legion is certainly a danger, especially with the benefit of hindsight. Believe it or not, as much as I hate AI, and my Shep hates AI, EDI and Legion softened me. I had always guessed that most of the geth Shepard had been fighting were religious extremists, but still didn't trust synthetics. But, now, at least, my Shep would trust EDI and Legion with his life.

Still, though, some kind of hacker duel between Legion and EDI might have been badass, if handled correctly.

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Dr. Peter Venkman

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DanXan wrote...

Satanic Hamster wrote...

So let me get this straight:
I find a Geth.  Take it on board.  And of ALL the rooms to store it in, I put it in the computer core room?

And then I take the ship offline to install alien technology.  So I go on a mission with EVERYONE packed into a tiny shuttle for no reason (and there's not even a mission), leaving the ship parked in the middle of no where?  Why didn't I do this in, say, Citadel space?  

I wondered the exact same thing... I'd have put the Geth in the observation room, wouldn't have been installing Reaver tech in the middle of nowhere all by myself, and certainly wouldn't have taken the entire team out all at once...

I also wondered about the IFF you get. It's supposedly from a 30-something MILLION year old reaver. Wouldn't their technology have changed a little since then? Like different codes for the IFF and such? Just sayin'...


"Reaver One, This is Reaver Two, come in Reaver One"

"Reaver One here, go ahead Reaver Two"

"So I was thinking the other millenia. Remember when Reaver Three went down a few million years ago?"

"Yeah, what about it?"

"Did you happen to grab his IFF?"

"No"

"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!"

Modifié par Dr. Peter Venkman, 30 janvier 2010 - 05:57 .


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Satanic Hamster wrote...

So let me get this straight:
I find a Geth.  Take it on board.  And of ALL the rooms to store it in, I put it in the computer core room?

And then I take the ship offline to install alien technology.  So I go on a mission with EVERYONE packed into a tiny shuttle for no reason (and there's not even a mission), leaving the ship parked in the middle of no where?  Why didn't I do this in, say, Citadel space?  


I was wondering the same as well friend. Havent gotten to the shuttle part but its not like its much of a surprise haha. Do we get to use joker as a battering ram?

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Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...


"Reaver One, This is Reaver Two, come in Reaver One"

"Reaver One here, go ahead Reaver Two"

"So I was thinking the other millenia. Remember when Reaver Three went down a few million years ago?"

"Yeah, what about it?"

"Did you happen to grab his IFF?"

"No"

"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!"



More like

"Sovereign, this is the Habinger of your Irritation, Come in, Sovereign."

"Harbinger, you will speak because I allow it and you will shut your face because I demand it."

"Sovereign,  know the death of Imperator, struck down by the Vorlons of the Seventheen Reaping?"

"Imperator fell like the spires of Feros."

"Nay, he was the vanguard of imminent failure. He shall not be replaced."

"Speak, Harbinger. My duties are legion."

"What did you do with the Omega-4 Mass Relay key he had upon his person? Do you still posess it or did pass it onto another of our Brethren so that they may pass through to the heart of our Galactic operations?"

*something like the silence of dark space is heard, only awkward* "........what?"

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packardbell wrote...

Because there was no reason to expect an attack


No, there was every reason to expect an attack. What part of "these guys have set traps for me before" + "I'm getting off my frankly magnificient spaceship and waiting in the shuttle with my entire squad" + "I'm letting a sentient AI activate stolen alien communications technology" does not scream "THIS IS A TRAP" to you?

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JudgeQwerty wrote...

"Harbinger, you will speak because I allow it and you will shut your face because I demand it."


This needs to happen.

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EDI has very little influence in the other areas of the ship, besides the AI Core there was no room where EDI can have an actual effect besides trying to talk your ear off. By putting Legion in the AI Core room, EDI has systems that allows it to directly influence whatever is in the room, this is why she was able to put up a barrier between Shepard and Legion. Should legion of been hostile, EDI would have been able to fry him. While keeping Shepard safe from getting hurt. Also this is where her protection systems were strongest.



The "Leaving crew behind with activated reaper technology" though was pure stupidity on his part.

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I admit that I was very surprised that someone put Legion in the goddamn AI Core. Especially when they didn't know it could be trusted... maybe it was because EDI can generate the field in the room.

I bet it was the janitor though. "All them artey-fi-cial thingies gotta be in one room... easier ta clean".

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Well, they likely thought it was destroyed. Through, I do agree it's a bit of a stretch that in the who knows how many clensings of life in the last 35 million years they never stumble across it (or anyone else has). Through, they are computers, so their imagination might not have been the best.



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Having the entire team hop in a shuttle off the ship to go on a mission would have made more sense... if there had actually been a mission. At that point I'd completed every sidequest in the game, so there was literally no reason for anyone to be leaving the ship.

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agrue wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Because there was no reason to expect an attack


No, there was every reason to expect an attack. What part of "these guys have set traps for me before" + "I'm getting off my frankly magnificient spaceship and waiting in the shuttle with my entire squad" + "I'm letting a sentient AI activate stolen alien communications technology" does not scream "THIS IS A TRAP" to you?


No, most because EDI had anti-reaper hacking algorithms installed but still I guess it was a juvenile mistake all things considered.

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Face it. There were three Preatorians and 4 or 5 Scions. The crew never would of survived.

Edit: And I chose to do an N7 mission when I got attacked. So the entire crew took the shuttle planet side to do the mission while the Normandy was in orbit. It made sense on my end :D

Modifié par Sursion, 30 janvier 2010 - 06:46 .