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[Neria Rose]

I've said it before (could have sworn it was in this thread, unless I'm missing something) and I'll say it again: My FemShep DIED, thus ending her relationship with Kaidan. She didn't cheat. They were already broken up.



And Garrus was the one she was pining for in the first place.

[legbamel]

Hainkpe wrote...

legbamel wrote...

Hainkpe wrote...

Bella Stiletto wrote...
I had several Shepards to import and I think only one had romanced Kaidan in the first game. But honestly how can it be cheating when he clearly states he's moved on?

AND! Kaidan says, if you're the same woman. IF! What is up with that? Too much drama. It wasn't cheating, it was moving on.

H.

If, as in "If you aren't a clone," or "If you haven't been brainwashed," or "If you aren't a clever bit of plastic surgery on a total stranger".  It's not his fault Anderson didn't tell him you were fine.

That said, my paragade fell for Thane and my renegade is going to relieve some stress with Garrus.  My paragon is still pining.

LOL The first thing he does is just hold her? Where's the kiss? I mean, he says he loves her but no kiss? I was half expecting a tackle hug. The anger I could understand, that was to be expected but the whole, if you're the same person. No. He should have been the one, out of the entire crew, he should have known better. He should have known it was Shepard.

Dang nabbit. He didn't know it was her and that hurt. Garrus knew, Tali knew. Not Kaidan.

How could he have known?  Perhaps he thought it was her but then when she said, "Hey, how've you been?" instead of something a little bit heartfelt the thought, "Nah, that can't be her." 

[IccaRa]

Admittedly, I wouldn't run up and kiss a dead person, either, so... can't blame Kaidan or Ashley for that.



I do find 'cheating' to be an awkward word for the Ash/Kaidan romance, though, because I'm pretty sure the relationship ended when Shep died and they believe he/she was genuinely dead. Doesn't mean the death was easy for them, and of course emotions will rise back to the surface once you see that special person again.



I think it's more of a case of, Do you let the relationship stay in the past? Or do you pick up where you left off?



It's trickier with Liara, as she knew that Shepard wasn't dead, and you can see her at any time.

[jlb524]

Liara did know that Shepard was alive, but it was only a few weeks or so before the meeting. I think it would still all be a bit of a shock to her.



'Cheating' might not be the best word, as technically the relationships are on hold or are rocky for various reasons.

[ITSlinky]

What's funny is my final playthorugh on ME I didn't plan on romancing Liara or Ash. They both annoy me, but I apparently made the mistake of saying hello to Ash once and she showed up in my quarters. I then told her to leave, effectively killing the romance or so I thought. Import into ME2 and I have a picture of Ash on the desk, she gets all uppity on Horizion, and generally does her normal annoying thing. I had Shep go for Tali in ME2, but I'm playing ME again with the intent of NEVER talking to Liara or Ash and see if that works for them to leave me alone.

[Evaler]

Nope, because I didn't have a ME1 love interest.

... What are you looking at Ash? Do you see a ring on my finger? Yeah, that was just a one time thing sweetheart, Tali beats you in every way.

(+20 Renegade. )

[Firmijn]

It aint cheating.



people can ( blue ones included) grow apart in 2 years.

You have simply moved on

[jlb524]

I guess I would have moved on too, if the ME2 LIs were ME1 LIs and the ME1 LIs were ME2 LIs.



I'd dump anyone's butt for Liara in a heartbeat.

[sagefic]

legbamel wrote...

Hainkpe wrote...

legbamel wrote...

Hainkpe wrote...

Bella Stiletto wrote...
I had several Shepards to import and I think only one had romanced Kaidan in the first game. But honestly how can it be cheating when he clearly states he's moved on?

AND! Kaidan says, if you're the same woman. IF! What is up with that? Too much drama. It wasn't cheating, it was moving on.

H.

If, as in "If you aren't a clone," or "If you haven't been brainwashed," or "If you aren't a clever bit of plastic surgery on a total stranger".  It's not his fault Anderson didn't tell him you were fine.

That said, my paragade fell for Thane and my renegade is going to relieve some stress with Garrus.  My paragon is still pining.

LOL The first thing he does is just hold her? Where's the kiss? I mean, he says he loves her but no kiss? I was half expecting a tackle hug. The anger I could understand, that was to be expected but the whole, if you're the same person. No. He should have been the one, out of the entire crew, he should have known better. He should have known it was Shepard.

Dang nabbit. He didn't know it was her and that hurt. Garrus knew, Tali knew. Not Kaidan.

How could he have known?  Perhaps he thought it was her but then when she said, "Hey, how've you been?" instead of something a little bit heartfelt the thought, "Nah, that can't be her." 

*notices discussion, speaks up from sidelines*

i was disturbed by the "if" also. but doesn't he say that IF you're the same woman he knew then you'll live through this and then the two of you will see where you're at? i took that is "IF you're still the same badass fighter, then we'll both be alive to see where this is going"

shep is on a mission; kaidan is on a mission. they are being pulled in different directions already and it's only if kaidan is willing to totally go AWOL on the alliance for her AND join up with cerberus after a (Frankly BAD) five-minute meeting, that anything else would have happened.

i really took the IF to be a "i cannot make this decision right now (universe pulled hard to port and all), i am too angry, confused, etc....gah! i just gotta walk away" and then kaidan stops later and thinks about it and realizes that he can't find her now. so i took that as a "IF you live through your crazy Cerberus shenanigans and are still interested when you're done working for them, then i'll think about if i want to try and let myself care again - cause last time really ended bad for me." i suppose some may think that's selfish of him, but completely understandable, no?

[Fiery Phoenix]

I agree it isn't technically cheating. More like moving on.

And yes, my FemShep couldn't turn Thane down, even though she admired Kaidan. However, MaleShep isn't doing it. Staying loyal to Ashley!

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 26 juin 2010 - 04:33 .

[Neria Rose]

Hainkpe wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

*notices discussion, speaks up from sidelines*

i was disturbed by the "if" also. but doesn't he say that IF you're the same woman he knew then you'll live through this and then the two of you will see where you're at? i took that is "IF you're still the same badass fighter, then we'll both be alive to see where this is going"

shep is on a mission; kaidan is on a mission. they are being pulled in different directions already and it's only if kaidan is willing to totally go AWOL on the alliance for her AND join up with cerberus after a (Frankly BAD) five-minute meeting, that anything else would have happened.

i really took the IF to be a "i cannot make this decision right now (universe pulled hard to port and all), i am too angry, confused, etc....gah! i just gotta walk away" and then kaidan stops later and thinks about it and realizes that he can't find her now. so i took that as a "IF you live through your crazy Cerberus shenanigans and are still interested when you're done working for them, then i'll think about if i want to try and let myself care again - cause last time really ended bad for me." i suppose some may think that's selfish of him, but completely understandable, no?

LOL   Uhhh... still no.   He said he loved her. I can understand the confusion and I can give him the right to be angry but I the idea that he could know Shepard so little to not know its her, that was too much. Then the whole, my world pulled hard to port thing then the IF statement. Either you're there or not. He walked away, Shepard didn't, he did. So it ended. Kaidan ended it then doubted what he did was the right thing. Sending the whole maybe letter, well that was just too little too late.

Good bye Kaidan and Hello to Garrus or Thane.
(I haven't decided between the two of them but I know Kaidan is out).

H.

Thane is tasty and quite gorgeous, but Garrus will forever hold my FemShep's heart! <3

[tigrina]

Hainkpe wrote...
LOL   Uhhh... still no.   He said he loved her. I can understand the confusion and I can give him the right to be angry but I the idea that he could know Shepard so little to not know its her, that was too much.

After 2 years someone dead turns up out of the blue with none of their old scars, but plenty of cybernetic new ones and affiliated with a faction you both hated before s/he died and says 'Hi how are you' to you.

You would instantly believe this is the same person?

/simply thinks the whole Horizon thing could have been done much better.
Also: actually checking the romance status would have helped, for instance.

[FRZN]

The one thing Cerberus failed to recreate when they brought me back to life was love. Tali is the only one capable of reinstalling this function to my cybernetic heart (although I'd let Kasumi take a shot at it).



Also, how is it that in two years not one of my shipmates is in a relationship? Do mass effect fields cause impotence?

[sagefic]

FRZN wrote...

The one thing Cerberus failed to recreate when they brought me back to life was love. Tali is the only one capable of reinstalling this function to my cybernetic heart (although I'd let Kasumi take a shot at it).

Also, how is it that in two years not one of my shipmates is in a relationship? Do mass effect fields cause impotence?

yes.

er...kaidan had a date with a doctor. sort of. depends on who you ask how serious it was. he says not in the email, but some folks on twitter say different.

personally, i think BW did a good job of making horizons leave you in a neutral place. i mean, i disliked it a lot, but as some people think it's totally grounds to move on and others think its completely heartbreaking and think the only proper response is to stay true, it would say that LAME dialog aside, it did achieve the objective of making it very much the player's choice what to do in response. i think it really depends on the shep.

[Jean]

sagequeen wrote...

FRZN wrote...

The one thing Cerberus failed to recreate when they brought me back to life was love. Tali is the only one capable of reinstalling this function to my cybernetic heart (although I'd let Kasumi take a shot at it).

Also, how is it that in two years not one of my shipmates is in a relationship? Do mass effect fields cause impotence?

yes.

er...kaidan had a date with a doctor. sort of. depends on who you ask how serious it was. he says not in the email, but some folks on twitter say different.

personally, i think BW did a good job of making horizons leave you in a neutral place. i mean, i disliked it a lot, but as some people think it's totally grounds to move on and others think its completely heartbreaking and think the only proper response is to stay true, it would say that LAME dialog aside, it did achieve the objective of making it very much the player's choice what to do in response. i think it really depends on the shep.

Yes, I think Horizon was written in such a way that you can either call it over or just something to work out at a later date, like when Collectors aren't stealing humans. Liara is much, much trickier. she knew you were alive.
I'm already pretty sure that both Kaidan and Ash will be LIs in ME3 even without romancing either in the first place.
Ex. by default, if you start a new game without importing Kaidan is alive if female and Ash is alive if male. When Kelly asks if you have/had strong feeling for either them.
Of course that is all just my own speculation

Modifié par Batteries, 27 juin 2010 - 03:24 .

[sagefic]

Batteries wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

FRZN wrote...

The one thing Cerberus failed to recreate when they brought me back to life was love. Tali is the only one capable of reinstalling this function to my cybernetic heart (although I'd let Kasumi take a shot at it).

Also, how is it that in two years not one of my shipmates is in a relationship? Do mass effect fields cause impotence?

yes.

er...kaidan had a date with a doctor. sort of. depends on who you ask how serious it was. he says not in the email, but some folks on twitter say different.

personally, i think BW did a good job of making horizons leave you in a neutral place. i mean, i disliked it a lot, but as some people think it's totally grounds to move on and others think its completely heartbreaking and think the only proper response is to stay true, it would say that LAME dialog aside, it did achieve the objective of making it very much the player's choice what to do in response. i think it really depends on the shep.

geez, so not looking forward to that part of this playthrough....

[D4rkFire]

cheated on ash on all playthrough's lol (currently on 4th) the guy has to have some fun it has been a while

[Homebound]

Cheated on Ash cuz she died.

[Prudii Aden]

Yes/No/what LI?

Yes, I have multiple playthroughs. And?

[RubyRed1975]

In 2 of my playthroughs I'm loyal to Kaidan, and 1 of them I cheated with Thane. Just want to see how they are going to handle the situation in ME3.