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[rabidrabbit2727]

Maybe because the people who love the game are busy playing it, rather than complaining on these forums.

[Evil Johnny 666]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

In comparison to the ones who are content with the game, the majority that not only post here but on other forums are not happy with the result of ME2. Hopefully Bioware will take note that alienating their existing fanbase to "bring in players that didn't play the original", in other words, shooter fans, is not a smart move, whether it's from an ethics standpoint or business.

What are you talking about. Not everyone who loved ME1 dislikes ME2. Have you ever thought most who love ME2 might actually be playing the game instead of bashing it?

[Kwonnern]

"Most"?



Judging by the 2 million copies sold, not many are complaining on the forum?



For it to be "most" it had to be more than a million people complaining!

[Vandrayke]

Everyone I know who liked ME1 enjoys ME2 more



Only place I find people who don't like it are on these forums

[Bigeyez]

Wow at the sweeping generalizations and complete lack of reality in this post. The sales figures and extremely positive reviews/blogs/comments speak for themselves. Those disappointed in the game are a minority, whether they like it or not.

Modifié par Bigeyez, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:40 .

[Drogo45]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

In comparison to the ones who are content with the game, the majority that not only post here but on other forums are not happy with the result of ME2. Hopefully Bioware will take note that alienating their existing fanbase to "bring in players that didn't play the original", in other words, shooter fans, is not a smart move, whether it's from an ethics standpoint or business.

You must be gaming-retarded.

[cavallodispade]

im happy.

[FitShaced]

have several friends who bought the game. the ONLY place i hear blatant negativity about the game is on these forums. OP is trippin' some serious quads. And IF this is about the ammo system, just suck it up and learn how to aim. The unlimited ammo way of things from ME1 was easily the thing i disliked the most about the original.


Edit:

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

In comparison to the ones who are content with the game, the majority that not only post here but on other forums are not happy with the result of ME2. 

All the posts above me tell me different.

Modifié par FitShaced, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:48 .

[talon4000]

not true at all, naysayers are always more vocal, and the people who like the game and are disappointed are about equal here, so that means there are probably at least twice as many people who are totally happy with the game than those that are disappointed

[sinosleep]

Wow, talk about someone who doesn't understand forum dynamics. Forums usually run counter to reality. Fact of the matter is people are more likely to go to a forum to complain about something than they are to praise it. It's just the way it is. It's the reason why on comic book forums New Avengers is regularly the most hated on comic even though it's gotten great reviews and has been the top selling comic consistently for FIVE years running selling 100k a month in an industry where 50k a month is healthy. It's the reason why when you go to a rap forum everyone hates Jay Z while going on about clowns that have been stuck underground or the last 10 years. I could go on and on and on about the just about any subject where when you step into a forum it's as if you've entered the twilight zone, up is down, the sky is green and grass is blue, etc, etc etc. Go to the warcraft forums and even though it's incomparably more successful than any mmo before or after it's release 90% of posts are complaints.

Not only that, but the sample size here is so absurdly small that it makes it even worse. There are what, 40 regular posters here? I mean seriously, click on every page on the front thread and tell me you don't consistently see the same names crop up over and over and over again. What you see on these, and practically all forums is an obscenely small but quite loud minority.

Opinions here mean practically nothing, what matters is the 96 on metacritic through TONS of aggregated review scores and the millions sold. The majority are clearly happy, even if that isn't apparant here.

Modifié par sinosleep, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:55 .

[Zentrasi]

I'm still a little baffled as to why people don't like the game based purely on just the combat changes.



There is MUCH more to this game than just the combat and I certainly don't think Bioware skimped on the story and the depth of character interaction in favor of combat changes.

[Dewnis]

rabidrabbit2727 wrote...

Maybe because the people who love the game are busy playing it, rather than complaining on these forums.

+1


Seriously. This game beats the first one by far.
It seriously have me drooling for Mass Effect 3 and 4 already to continue the story. And i'm not even finished with this one.

Modifié par Dewnis, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:52 .

[Mr. Sprinkles101]

Most of the posts on this thread even favor ME2

[MGIII]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

In comparison to the ones who are content with the game, the majority that not only post here but on other forums are not happy with the result of ME2. Hopefully Bioware will take note that alienating their existing fanbase to "bring in players that didn't play the original", in other words, shooter fans, is not a smart move, whether it's from an ethics standpoint or business.

Lol

Most are not disappointed. Maybe you tihnk that people being disappointed by one phase of the game makes them disappointed with the whole tihng. That would sure inflate that number. I'm disappointed by the AI, but I still love the game.

[NorseDude]

Not this again... sigh... alright, let's summon it up a bit and be done with it.



1. Just because you have guns, it doesn't mean it's not a RPG.

2. You DO have an inventory and upgrades. They are just diguised a bit.

3. All reviews I have seen have been 9/10 or better. Most people agree.

4. Mass Effect 1 was also a shooter with RPG-bits.

[Kalfear]

OP is dead on the money.



I dont hate ME2 and the combat not as bad as I thought it might be but its still falls well short of its original and I have to question if I want to waste this many hours of my life playing a mindless shooter.



Combat is insultingly easy in this game after you upgrade and I feel real pity for those saying this is so much better then ME1 combat wise. The AI a little smarter but tthats about it, still a shooter is a shooter and it isnt rocket science!



But that would even be acceptable if the story of ME1 was there. But its not. I feel no emotional connection to any of my squad mates, none what so ever. In DA:O, I WANTED to romance an bed Leilianna, in KotOR I wanted to be with Bastilla, same with JE. The personalities were built up and explained that you create connections to the characters. This isnt the case in ME2.



Sure you do their loyalty tests and those nice side missions but whats lacking from game is the conversations where you really learn about each other and who they think and react to different thngs.



2 HUGE mistakes were made with this game and who ever made these choices should be fired out a airlock as they simply dont understand Bioware games. The paragon/renegade +/- is gone from conversations with crew members (when you say it, not after the fact that leave you wondering what you said that was renegade) and 2) the comments and personalities showing when wandering around none combat areas between characters.



It got so freaking bad at one point im openly discussing how mordin did a certain no no to a race of people with ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ALSO IN GROUP STANDING RIGHT THERE! Not a peep outta that other groupmate though, nothing!



ME2 fails on all levels of character building!



End result, if you want or care about the RPG crowd coming back for ME3, you need to relook and readd many of the RPG elements of this game. IF ME3 is basically the same as ME2, I dare say sales will drop 500k to 1 million sales because what made ME1 the greatest all time RPG was lost and forgotten in ME2 so a minority could have slightly better combat!

[hex23]

Game is the greatest of all time, in my opinion. And I been playing games since "Pong", so that says a lot.



You're entitled to your opinion/disappointment/whatever but stand on your own two feet. Don't make it seem like the majority agrees with you when obviously they don't. Here, out in the real world, critically....or on any level.

[jpetrey123]

*prepares for a flame war* hehe but seriously the reviews and sales figures speak for themselves

[Stompi]

Every poll here says that majority likes ME2 better than ME1. We just don't have any reason to spam the forums with complain threads.

I'm not making things up, just one example:
http://social.biowar...226/polls/1489/

There are more of them in the polls section. The complain mob is just louder and more disrespectful.

Modifié par Stompi, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:55 .

[Graunt]

I am enjoying this game quite a bit, and I think they made some improvements over the original.  What I am disappointed with though is their implementation of biotics.  Other than that, I really don't have much to complain about at all.

And I been playing games since "Pong".

Me too.:happy:

Modifié par Graunt, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:56 .

[SorrowAndJoy7]

Yeah the majority of people who love the game, spend more time playing the game than ****ing about it. This shows on forums.

[Bryy_Miller]

Vandrayke wrote...

Everyone I know who liked ME1 enjoys ME2 more

Only place I find people who don't like it are on these forums

I disliked ME1 greatly, but I think ME2 is one of the greatest games of all time. Not because of the shooter element (although that has been improved greatly), but because EVERYTHING has been improved upon so much. I actually WANT to talk to people. 

[Twitchmonkey]

Mr. Sprinkles101 wrote...

Most of the posts on this thread even favor ME2

All of the people posting this post prefer ME2 as well. Not to mention every reviewer I can think of. Did anyone give ME2 an appreciably lower score than ME1?

[Bio Addict]

The OP is dreaming. Even these forums, where the vocal minority have been voicing their complaints for the past few days, are turning more positive as more ME2 fans come back to trade stories and tips.