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[Eshaye]

This discussion is making me want to try to step out of myself and make a morally deviant character for once that looks nothing like me.... lmao

Well done, I have to go create her right now!

[minamber]

Well, I'm an atheist, and it affects what characters i might play a little, i guess.

I have no trouble playing a religious character, but then their religion is often very different from ours. Religion in our world is based on faith, while D&D clerics, for instance, get divine interventions all the time. That makes for an utterly different religious experience, in my opinion.

So I think that religious beliefs in the real world would make almost no difference in your ability to relate to religion in most RPGs.

I mean, if you got actual proof of the existence of a god, and immediate, material rewards for worshiping it, logic would dictate that you do so.

On the other hand, since religion in DA:O is also faith-based, i'm rather looking forward to how it's handled. It's also a big part of the game-world, from what I understand, so attitude toward the Chantry would be a big part of my character's background, for once.

Whether my own atheism will make a difference in my character's behaviour, I can't say yet, but I hope not.

[Servant of Nature]

Nope, I'm agnostic but I often play very religious characters, especially with D&D. I like to push myself, it's a challenge to be play a role that is so different from your own personality.

[lordstanton]

Well since I always play a paladin type character who sacrifices himself for the people, I am sure my religion does influence me.



Of course my second playthrough is always a selfish evil megalomaniac that wants to enslave the world to suit my desires. Probably a subconscious desire to tell my religion to stuff it.

[DalishRanger]

I'm a strong agnostic myself, but I have no problem playing religious characters, though I'm never fantatical. Sometimes my characters are very devout, sometimes they're "religious but not practicing," sometimes they're staunch atheists: My male Shepard was a strong atheist... Who still romanced Ashley. He doesn't have a bias against religion/those who are religious, he just can't bring himself to believe in a higher power after all the crap he's been through.

It all depends on what kind of character I want to play. Really, my personal moral code has more effect on how I play my characters than my (lack) of religious views does. I almost never play straight out "evil" characters. Once in a while I do (Dark Brotherhood, anyone?), but I usually play as someone with at least some degree of compassion, even if it doesn't appear often.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 15 octobre 2009 - 05:52 .

[II Relics II]

Uh no? Methodist here.

[Skelra]

Nope not one bit, I'm going to murder everyone in this game I can!

[jrastaban]

Great Topic,thanks for bringing it up. To start with I am a Christian and I use to have a hard time with these types of games for that reason, but as some have pointed out, it really is its own world our theology doesn't hold there. This helped me enjoy and expand my play style a lot. I am currently RPing a character in a game who would probably be considered a Taoist and it has actually helped me better understand the mindset of others (I think).



Another factor that I found very influencing is Conservative vs Liberal. The game can be very different if you try playing through on the opposite side of your beliefs. I have even found myself going "Oh, thats why they feel that way". I love it when a game actually help me better understand my actions, motivations, and prejudices.



All that said I can't wait to play a Human Noble at some point and oppress those goody goody elves (Humans +1), revenge for all the accolades they receive every fantasy author. I don't agree with it, but is will be interesting to explore the tormentors mindset. After that of course I will have to take vengeance as crazed city elf (ala French revolution)

[twincast]

My main char will be as close to atheism as possible, but among my other characters there will be followers of human, elven and dwarven religion, maybe even an elf who converts to the Qun. I simply like to RP, I guess.

[JHDROCKER]

Im Wiccan but i cant say i really model my charecters after my own beliefs, afterall the point of a game is acting out someone or something your not, though i imagine i do act out how i behave in real life in a video games mostly in choices.

[drakeyuuhi]

i am someone that beleives in wolf spirits and not god. but i am going play a templer so i going think of the maker as a wolf spirit

[Sylvius the Mad]

Indirectly, yes.



My relentless rationality - which also gives me a strong disdain for religion - is the greatest influence of my characters' development.

[phoenixds24]

I'm agnostic myself, and I suppose sometimes yes, my own religious and philosophical views will leak into my characters, but I don't really have a problem playing deeply religous or atheist characters.  As religious views can be some of the most deeply held beliefs of people, I think it can be difficult to completely separate what you yourself believe and what the character you're playing believes.  This is probably somewhat easier in a system like DnD where people know their gods actually exist, whereas in a setting like Dragon Age, wherein the religion is probably more analogous to the sorts of beliefs we have in our own world, it's probably easier to see shades of the more familiar.

Setting aside the fact that at least once I usually roleplay myself, I tend to find that oft-times I'll take a certain element of my own beliefs and magnify it in a character, resulting in someone similar to me yet different.  Other times, I may latch on to something that is precisely what I don't believe in and inject that into the character--though I will admit I have difficulty playing characters totally the opposite of myself on a moral spectrum.

[Vormalon]

Good question. I dont think it does but perhaps im wrong. I am a Christian, and as Christianity doesnt exist in Thedas (or most rpg's) I never really thought about it while playing. But now you mention it, it probably does have an impact on the morals of my first character. (To explain, i always play the "goody" path first and go through the games choosing the choices closest to what i would pick, then when thats out the way I make a bad guy)



So yeah... its a yes and no answer form me I like to role play, but sometimes im rping as myself if that makes any sense to anyone.

[Mordaedil]

To address an earlier disagreement, the argument actually arose from a misunderstanding on the concept of atheism that isn't very well grasped or understood. Atheism is a belief, that there is no higher power, no deities. It is the rejection of other systems of theism.

This however is not the same as the concept of being irreligious or unspiritual, which is what most people claiming to be an atheist is. There are also plenty of other theisms that are valid forms of replacing deities with some other form of higher belief structure. Humanism, rationalism and naturalism are three branches of this.

Now, yes, you might think I just went to Wikipedia to look this up, but fact is that I probably wouldn't even have needed to if I didn't know part of it was true from other source materials that are in bookform.

In the spirit of the thread, atheism is a factor of religion because it's the rejection of religion that causes their characters to be impacted, while the OP assumed the posters meant the commonly used form of atheism, where a person merely claims to be an atheist just because they are not very spiritual.

In short, misunderstandings happened for very valid reasons and noone should feel insulted because of common misconceptions.

Spread knowledge, not ignorance!

[NewYears1978]

Vormalon said...

So yeah... its a yes and no answer form me I like to role play, but sometimes im rping as myself if that makes any sense to anyone

That makes perfect sense, I do the same..thus why I find it hard making evil choices or mean choices...because I'm just not that type of person IRL.

Mordaedil wrote...

To address an earlier disagreement, the argument actually arose from a misunderstanding on the concept of atheism that isn't very well grasped or understood. Atheism is a belief, that there is no higher power, no deities. It is the rejection of other systems of theism.

This however is not the same as the concept of being irreligious or unspiritual, which is what most people claiming to be an atheist is. There are also plenty of other theisms that are valid forms of replacing deities with some other form of higher belief structure. Humanism, rationalism and naturalism are three branches of this.

Now, yes, you might think I just went to Wikipedia to look this up, but fact is that I probably wouldn't even have needed to if I didn't know part of it was true from other source materials that are in bookform.

In the spirit of the thread, atheism is a factor of religion because it's the rejection of religion that causes their characters to be impacted, while the OP assumed the posters meant the commonly used form of atheism, where a person merely claims to be an atheist just because they are not very spiritual.

In short, misunderstandings happened for very valid reasons and noone should feel insulted because of common misconceptions.

Spread knowledge, not ignorance!

Good post.  Me and ClockworkMelon quickly spoke in PM's after the disagreement and cleared things up. It was clearly as you said...misconception/misunderstanding..and also a lack of proper emotion translation into text type thing..

All is well and we moved passed it.

Modifié par NewYears1978, 15 octobre 2009 - 06:19 .

[NiaSaV]

Does my religion affect how I model character? None. They're all pure fantasy.BUT Does it affect my choices in the dialogues of the game? 100% YES.

I was raised a Buddhist but I usually distant myself from it. There is one thing though that influence my life, "Karma."
It's the way the world that results of one's action will come back to him/her. Y'know, do good things and good things will come to you, and vice versa.
"What goes around, comes around."

Whenever I play Bioware's games like Mass Effect, KOTOR, etc. I usually end up playing as a good guy. I enjoyed the choices I made in the story 'cuz there's no way I could be that selfless in reality. I like being an ass in real life.

Modifié par NiaSaV, 15 octobre 2009 - 06:39 .

[Nekator]

I wouldn´t say that my religion plays a great part in gaming, alas i´m not that religious either.

[Euphrati]

If I am roleplaying a hero in another world Im not going pretend they live by realworld belief and morals. They usually have their own set of rules or they choose to not follow them. Not being a part of an institution does not affect how I play.

[dragoager]

How can religion NOT play a factor in the choices you make for imaginary characters? In a completely fictitious world one could imagine god himself as a "she".... or even ::gasp:: not at all! Pretty soon you have freedom of thought rivaling that of hippies, news' pundits, and women in draconian male dominated 3rd world nations. Just because Bioware in their infinite wisdom incorporates evil choices and actions into their cyber-Nirvanas we call games doesn't mean we should actually CHOOSE those paths! Good god man! By that logic one should eat of the tree of knowledge and actually have to deal with the consequences! ::Fingers in ears:: lalalalalalalalala. .... I'm not listening to you.....BURN FOR YOUR HERESY!

[Cat Lance]

I had assumed that it was a question more of someone's religion influencing their thought process as opposed to a conscious decision to have their character follow the tenants of the player's religion...did I misunderstand?

[Linarc]

probably, I don't like fanatic attitudes when it comes to religion, and sometimes I can't roleplay someone who isn't me.

my first character will have a respect for all forms of religion (unless it involves sacrificing little children, or something horrible like this) and won't try to influence anyone in that matter. I think I won't br able to do different things in other playthroughs, but just playing to know.

[Euphrati]

dragoager wrote...

How can religion NOT play a factor in the choices you make for imaginary characters? In a completely fictitious world one could imagine god himself as a "she".... or even ::gasp:: not at all! Pretty soon you have freedom of thought rivaling that of hippies, news' pundits, and women in draconian male dominated 3rd world nations. Just because Bioware in their infinite wisdom incorporates evil choices and actions into their cyber-Nirvanas we call games doesn't mean we should actually CHOOSE those paths! Good god man! By that logic one should eat of the tree of knowledge and actually have to deal with the consequences! ::Fingers in ears:: lalalalalalalalala. .... I'm not listening to you.....BURN FOR YOUR HERESY!

Excuse me, your sexism is showing.

[Fates end]

Don't think about it much, but...yes. As a Christian, it does influence my decision making. Not saying all the characters I role-play are Christian. But generally they do believe in a higher power.

[NiaSaV]

hmm...

Is there other buddhist in the house?