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[Arttis]

no

why would it

[Odd Bet]

DalishRanger wrote...

dragoager wrote...

Odd Bet wrote...

Well, I am bound and determined to not let my characters eat any pork or shellfish.

Though, now that I think about it, that has yet to come up. Looks like BioWare needs to get on it. I demand encounters that challenge my ability to keep kosher!

Will you slay anything on the Sabbath?

I could be wrong here, but you're only not supposed to work on the Sabbeth, right? He could classify slaying as "fun" and kill to his heart's content.

True, though I couldn't accept any money for it. And I wouldn't be able to travel very far, so I'd have to keep my pro bono, recreational slaughtering limited to my immediate area.

Woe to my character's neighbors on the Sabbath.

[FerretGirl]

Mmmm, it does play a role in the way that I can't stand religious fanatics both in game and in life. So Leliana will probably get on my nerve fast.

[DalishRanger]

Odd Bet wrote...

True, though I couldn't accept any money for it. And I wouldn't be able to travel very far, so I'd have to keep my pro bono, recreational slaughtering limited to my immediate area.

Woe to my character's neighbors on the Sabbath.

Hm, there is that. Ah well. Low kill better than no kill, eh?

Modifié par DalishRanger, 16 octobre 2009 - 06:03 .

[Planar4564]

I would tend to agree, that religion plays a large part of how I play my character. My faith is such a large part of who I am, to try to un-wind it from myself would be fruitless.



... Also I just feel icky doing the mean things in the game. (I know, my friend bugs me, "They're just pixels, sheesh!" I still feel icky!) =)

[HeathenKing]

FerretGirl wrote...

Mmmm, it does play a role in the way that I can't stand religious fanatics both in game and in life. So Leliana will probably get on my nerve fast.

My thoughts exactly. I enjoy her character otherwise, but I have zero tolerance for religious fanatics.
I'll just keep her around to see her face when I deface the sacred ashes.

[Brass_Buckles]

Religion doesn't play a big factor in what I play in a game. I could play someone devout, or someone anything but. The only thing I have trouble playing is "evil" and that's not due to religious influence. That's just me having weird pangs of guilt for being mean even in a video game. I meant to do an evil playthrough of Fable, for instance, but somehow I find it hard to kill villagers.



Maybe I can do a turnaround in this game and succeed at being evil. ... Wow, that sounds bad.

[DalishRanger]

Planar4564 wrote...
... Also I just feel icky doing the mean things in the game. (I know, my friend bugs me, "They're just pixels, sheesh!" I still feel icky!) =)

Brass_Buckles wrote...
Religion doesn't play a big factor in what I play in a game. I could play someone devout, or someone anything but. The only thing I have trouble playing is "evil" and that's not due to religious influence. That's just me having weird pangs of guilt for being mean even in a video game. I meant to do an evil playthrough of Fable, for instance, but somehow I find it hard to kill villagers.

Maybe I can do a turnaround in this game and succeed at being evil. ... Wow, that sounds bad.

95% of the time, that's how I am too. I mean, I have no problem being an ass to my enemies, but I can't bring myself to mindlessly slaughter innocent NPCs and such.
I do like having a bit of a sharp wit sometimes, though.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 16 octobre 2009 - 07:49 .

[Brass_Buckles]

DalishRanger wrote...

Planar4564 wrote...
... Also I just feel icky doing the mean things in the game. (I know, my friend bugs me, "They're just pixels, sheesh!" I still feel icky!) =)

Brass_Buckles wrote...
Religion doesn't play a big factor in what I play in a game. I could play someone devout, or someone anything but. The only thing I have trouble playing is "evil" and that's not due to religious influence. That's just me having weird pangs of guilt for being mean even in a video game. I meant to do an evil playthrough of Fable, for instance, but somehow I find it hard to kill villagers.

Maybe I can do a turnaround in this game and succeed at being evil. ... Wow, that sounds bad.

95% of the time, that's how I am too. I mean, I have no problem being an ass to my enemies, but I can't bring myself to mindlessly slaughter innocent NPCs and such.
I do like having a bit of a sharp wit sometimes, though.

Glad to know I'm not alone.  Maybe it's a girl thing?  Or maybe we need to start a support group:  Evil Impaired Anonymous.  Or something.

[LetheAlethe]

To me, the game is about the characters and their world. I also like to play a lot of different types of personalities. Some maybe religious, others not, and they may all be (or not be) fanatical about certain things, or anything in between. I try to put as little of myself in them as possible, but some may simply be partly (sometimes more) like me. Aside from that, I realise I probably will not be able to keep myself out of my characters as much as I'd like, and I also realise that I may not even be able to tell how and when I 'intrude'.

To me, any religion I may or may not have should not play a role in my characters in this game, since they live in an entirely different world. In other games, set in our world (past, future or slightly altered), it could play a bit more of a role in the sense that I may draw more directly from real life experiences, but I would still try to play their life and keep myself out.

Modifié par LetheAlethe, 16 octobre 2009 - 08:22 .

[DalishRanger]

Brass_Buckles wrote...
Glad to know I'm not alone.  Maybe it's a girl thing?  Or maybe we need to start a support group:  Evil Impaired Anonymous.  Or something.

I know, I feel like such a minority about it sometimes. I understand the appeal of being evil in a game, but it just doesn't click with me. One of my rare exceptions was playing the Dark Brotherhood quests in Oblivion, and that was only because I enjoy playing stealthy characters. There were at least two quests in it that broke my heart to play through. I guess you could also call yourself "evil" if you play Vampire Bloodlines, but I generally approach that as a less animalistic/detached vampire, so I'm still less viscious than I could be.

I would call it a girl thing, except I know at least one guy who plays good almost exclusively... And I know several girls who don't have a problem with being evil in a game.

We could always start a group for it on here. I'm sure we'd get a few members.

[KethWolfheart]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Religion doesn't play a big factor in what I play in a game. I could play someone devout, or someone anything but. The only thing I have trouble playing is "evil" and that's not due to religious influence. That's just me having weird pangs of guilt for being mean even in a video game. I meant to do an evil playthrough of Fable, for instance, but somehow I find it hard to kill villagers.

Maybe I can do a turnaround in this game and succeed at being evil. ... Wow, that sounds bad.

I have the same problem.  I have tried to play evil characters and I always either turn good or start the game over.  I just can't get into it.  I cna do neutral okay (even then I tend to be polite) and I can be nasty if I feel someeone deserves it, but in general can't get into it.  Its not a lack of role playing ability - I just don't enjoy it and I play games to enjoy.

Someone mentioned something I forgot - playing clerics and such.  I have more trouble with some of that but not from lack of belief.  I think its more of an independence type of things.  I don't like the idea of having to "pray" everyday for my powers (ala AD&D style).  So I seldom could get into playing a religious character (which mirrors real life somewhat).

But the more naturalistic classes I could resonate with because of the pagan overtones.  Plus I like the idea of multiple gods/goddess as it gives more freedom on who you might want to follow, swear by, etc.

[nisallik]

JEBesh wrote...

My lack of religion most certainly does not play a role.

<--- This.

[gynoid]

Absolutely not. Very little of my real life character relates to my game character. (If it did, I wouldn't be able to play a game that involves killing people...) In real life I have no religion, but in games I'm comfortable playing clerics and priests as well as godless heathens. While I'd like to think that my morals are generally sound, I enjoy playing as a thoroughly nasty character once in a while. It's pure escapism.

[Korva]

Brass_Buckles wrote...
Glad to know I'm not alone. Maybe it's a girl thing? Or maybe we need to start a support group: Evil Impaired Anonymous. Or something..

Ha! If you do, message me. I'd definitely join.

Atheist or not, I like spiritual characters, actually, though of course some fictional religions are a lot more appealing than others. Druids, paladins, shamans, priests -- I've made quite a few "faith-based" characters in various settings and enjoy trying to get into their heads, even if they never actually get roleplayed. And many times it would seem very odd if a given character is not at least somewhat spiritual/religious, though that too of course depends on the setting.

In Dragon Age, my human noble warrior is definitely going to believe in the Chantry and the Maker, though not zealously so. My dwarven noble warrior will be into the whole thing with the Stone, the ancestors and Paragons, and take solace in the knowledge that even though her people may have falsely accused her of a great crime, her conscience is clear before the Stone and ancestors. My Dalish elf ranger-rogue will follow the old pantheon, especially Andruil, goddess of the hunt. And my human mage will use faith in the Maker as an "anchor" against the very real dangers from the Fade.

Modifié par Korva, 16 octobre 2009 - 12:28 .

[Fulgrim88]

Gone all the way from paladin to heathen and back, including everything in between.
Roleplaying is all about escaping the boundaries and values of your real life, so the less one of my characters turns out to be "me", the more interesting it is to play him.
That applies to pretty much every social, moral and other ethical aspect, though and is really not restricted to terms of belief.

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 16 octobre 2009 - 12:34 .

[Stebenator]

No?

[KethWolfheart]

Role playing doesn't have to just be playing something different from oneself. It can also be used for identity exploration. Many feel it is limited to being something totally different, but it can also be used to just explore different aspects about oneself around a central core. Either is valid. Games provide a safe mechanism to explore many traits or focus in on one. Maybe you are soft-spoken in real life so you may RP a character that is more aggressive, while keeping other traits the same, as a way to get more comfortable with that trait.



In regards to religion, then, you could explore some religious ideas you may not carry out in real life, as a way to explore belief systems. What would it be like if I truly followed a religion? If I truly believed how would I act? What would I do? How would it feel?

[Macdunne]

I dont think i've ever had a time when my religion played a huge factor in my character's decisions. I'm with Dalish and Planar though, i just don't feel right playing evil characters.



So my religion affecting my in game choices no, but my morality yes.

[Sshodan]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

DalishRanger wrote...

Planar4564 wrote...
... Also I just feel icky doing the mean things in the game. (I know, my friend bugs me, "They're just pixels, sheesh!" I still feel icky!) =)

Brass_Buckles wrote...
Religion doesn't play a big factor in what I play in a game. I could play someone devout, or someone anything but. The only thing I have trouble playing is "evil" and that's not due to religious influence. That's just me having weird pangs of guilt for being mean even in a video game. I meant to do an evil playthrough of Fable, for instance, but somehow I find it hard to kill villagers.

Maybe I can do a turnaround in this game and succeed at being evil. ... Wow, that sounds bad.

95% of the time, that's how I am too. I mean, I have no problem being an ass to my enemies, but I can't bring myself to mindlessly slaughter innocent NPCs and such.
I do like having a bit of a sharp wit sometimes, though.

Glad to know I'm not alone.  Maybe it's a girl thing?  Or maybe we need to start a support group:  Evil Impaired Anonymous.  Or something.

Not being able to be evil is definitely not a girl thing - I am female and I've been known for roleplaying chaotic evils with a flare
In RL I'm in one of the "helping professions" I deal with other people problems every day, I although make a point to work for charity every week, since often those who need help the most can't afford to pay for it. And of course when my friends or family need me I momentary go in "work mode" and concentrate on their wellbeing completely. It's often been noted by people that I'm so well trained at being supportive, patient, polite and attentive that it downright impossible to get more than a very mild negative reaction out of me
But no matter what I'm not a saint. I don't even consider my self kind or good - my "goodness" comes from logical assumption that if you want to live in a better, happier world you need to do your part to make it better, not from any emotional desire to be "good". I'm just a human and I get angry, I get annoyed, I get frustrated and I'm often selfish, and I know that all those things woun't go away if you ignore them, to be able to keep them out of my RL I need to work throw them in other environment. And role playing, is a very good tool for "discharging". So I like to play evil, selfish, easily bored and annoyed characters Games like Dungeon Keeper and Overlord where always a hit with me for that reason, and I hope DA:O will get some satisfying "evil" options, that allows us to "tug the blanket our way"

Modifié par Sshodan, 16 octobre 2009 - 01:12 .

[DalishRanger]

Sshodan wrote...
Not being able to be evil is definitely not a girl thing - I am female and I've been known for roleplaying chaotic evils with a flare
In RL I'm in one of the "helping professions" I deal with other people problems every day, I although make a point to work for charity every week, since often those who need help the most can't afford to pay for it. And of course when my friends or family need me I momentary go in "work mode" and concentrate on their wellbeing completely. It's often been noted by people that I'm so well trained at being supportive, patient, polite and attentive that it downright impossible to get more than a very mild negative reaction out of me
But no matter what I'm not a saint. I don't even consider my self kind or good - my "goodness" comes from logical assumption that if you want to live in a better, happier world you need to do your part to make it better, not from any emotional desire to be "good". I'm just a human and I get angry, I get annoyed, I get frustrated and I'm often selfish, and I know that all those things woun't go away if you ignore them, to be able to keep them out of my RL I need to work throw them in other environment. And role playing, is a very good tool for "discharging". So I like to play evil, selfish, easily bored and annoyed characters Games like Dungeon Keeper and Overlord where always a hit with me for that reason, and I hope DA:O will get some satisfying "evil" options, that allows us to "tug the blanket our way"

^ It's for reasons similar to that, that most people I know who play evil/chaotic characters do. I certainly understand the need to vent or just do something different in a game as a venting/release. It's just... For me, it doesn't help. I just feel worse. I tend to get my anger and frustration and other things out through several inane rants about random stuff throughout the day.

Ha! If you do, message me. I'd definitely join.

Noted.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 16 octobre 2009 - 01:55 .

[Fulgrim88]

Interesting comments, Sshodan & Dalish. Gotta admit that i never thought of it that way, but it kinda hits the spot.

I'm a pretty calm and polite guy in RL and i like roleplaying evil characters for similar reasons as Sshodan pointed out. So do most "evil" guys i know, while all of those who have a hard time "playing" evil tend to be (mildly) nasty on other occasions ; )

[Jacob Thorwaldson]

I am atheist so NO.

[Trisk3lion]

Most time i play characters as if they were me so as being an atheist it definatly affects how i play!

[Polyhymnia]

While my religion pervades most aspects of my life, I do not necessarily think that it affects my characters though I could be wrong. I normally do not play a devout character because I do not want to replicate myself in a game (not that aspects of myself do not appear) but it is about doing things that are different. I do find it difficult to play evil characters but I find that most of my morals were due to my upbringing not my belief system which came later in life. Since the characters are fiction, I can do things that I would never do in reality.