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[Evil ZeR0]

i vote for a liara mission in me3 to kill the shadow broker!!

[TheLostGenius]

Also keep in mind he is called the "Illusive man" and not the "Elusive Man". His presence in ME2 is entirely illusory. He could very easily be playing Sheperd and humanity. The IFF corrupted EDI, it looked identical to the image of Soverign in ME1. It was only on screen for 0.5 seconds though.

[CraigxGibson]

The Thorian is the Shadow Broker. What a twist.

[Nallski]

The SB can't be Harbinger, that much is apparent. In the comic included with the CE the last few panels have the Collector General/Harbinger, brokering a deal with the SB over getting Shep's body. I could still see TIM being the SB, but as other has pointed out, I'm pretty sure the SB has been around longer than humans have been in citadel space. I think it's more likely that TIM is being manipulated by a reaper than the SB is, even if he doesn't realize it yet.

[Jide Aurelius]

I dont know who he is, but he sure doesnt like me

Modifié par Jide Aurelius, 01 février 2010 - 03:31 .

[TheLostGenius]

Nallski wrote...

The SB can't be Harbinger, that much is apparent. In the comic included with the CE the last few panels have the Collector General/Harbinger, brokering a deal with the SB over getting Shep's body. I could still see TIM being the SB, but as other has pointed out, I'm pretty sure the SB has been around longer than humans have been in citadel space. I think it's more likely that TIM is being manipulated by a reaper than the SB is, even if he doesn't realize it yet.

How do you know the illusive man is even human? what what you are seeing is an illusion?

[jiggs101]

i'll tell you one thing the illusive man is not fully human look closely at his eyes i dont trust him

[Wintermist]

TheLostGenius wrote...

The connection behind the secrecy and the nearly limitless resources makes the Illusive Man seem so similar to the Shadow Broker...anyone else thought this could be possible? 

Yeah absolutely. And in the end I came to the inevitable conclusion that everyone in Mass Effect is in fact actually the same person. This realisation put me off a bit.

[phimseto]

I'm fairly certain the Shadow Broker is an AI. The Shadow Broker is described as dealing in information but galactic balance somehow always being kept. My thought is that the Shadow Broker is a trojan horse and that when the Reapers want it to, it will plunge the galaxy into turmoil.

[0Gabe0]

liara says no.... she cant have gotten sheps body from the broker only to give it to the broker

[Wintermist]

But Liara IS the broker!

[Jaina Twoseas]

If you turn the question arount it makes much more sense:



Is the Shadow Broker the Illusive Man?



Drew Karpyshin will enlighten us in Mass Effect 3... eventually

[Wintermist]

Or confuse us even more...

[SerSpiffy]

Mlow44 wrote...

when shepard asks the Illusive Man about Liara, he says "My resources tell me she could be working for the Shadow Broker, in which case she can't be trusted." In the first Mass Effect, the Shadow Broker was backing Admiral Kahoku to infiltrate Cerberus, too. plus i believe evidence places the Shadow Broker as some kind of alien. can't remember where i got this particular idea, but i'm pretty sure the Shadow Broker's been around since before humans discovered the mass relay. think it's safe to draw the Shadow Broker does not = Illusive Man

yeah but he could have said that to throw shepard off and not go looking for her.
but we find out she's working AGAINST the Shadow Broker.

meaning he could have felt that if she joined Shepard. his cover could have been blown.

either way. i have a feeling we're going to kill the shadow broker in Mass Effect 3. :happy:

[Asante81]

The Shadow Broker employs way too many aliens to be The Illusive Man...

[Vaenier]

how many times are people guna say this...

SB wanted to give Shep to collectors. TIM wanted to ressurect Shep to kill collectors. They have completely contradictory goals. They cant be the same person. Shep is more likely working for the Reapers than TIM being the SB.

[Kosmiker]

Why not ask Wrex?



He was hired by the Shadow Broker in the first place to kill Fist (former Shadow Broker agent).



Besides, Shadow Broker might not be 1 person... could be a group of individuals (or an sophisticated AI).

[Lilitv]

Wrex wouldn't be able to tell you anything. The Shadow Broker work through proxies.

[FlashedMyDrive]

Conrad Verner is the Shadow Broker.

[Malysoun]

cyork09 wrote...

admiral hackett is my best guess for shadow broker..
if sb and tim r rivals then hackett being alliance and tim with cerberus makes sense.
He was a major player in ME1 yet was never seen. Also the mission in ME1 with the rogue VI on the moon was kind of suspicious. Using a spectre instead of alliance military proves hackett wanted it done hush hush. Hackett pretty much told shepard that he was using him to do his dirty work. Idk could be wrong, but a good twist or reveal like who the shadow broker is would only be awesome if the character was someone well known enough to shock everyone

Except that when SB asks for the cerberus info you got on the one mission, you can say your loyalty is to the alliance. If SB was Hackett, he'd get the info roundabout anyhow when Shep reports in.

[pokoa]

SwobyJ wrote...

If SB truly is for a 'balance' to the galaxy, it won't wish for the Reaper invasion (unless its on its terms).

If TIM wants human dominance, he doesn't wish for a Reaper invasion (unless its on his terms).

I think they are both issues to be dealt with as they may both be trying to help the Reapers/are controlled in some way by them, but paragons will more sympathize with SB, and renegades will more sympathize with TIM.

Both can be enemies, I'm sure, and a more 'transcending' player would try to take care of both of them.

(This comes to a point where I hope that the next development of the conversation/alignment system brings in a third alignment other than Paragon/Renegade)

I know for sure my shep will look for a way to kill them both them and if i get another chance i want to change the couincel form just 4 races to a reprisentitve republic with at least one member from each race (im including krogen drell geth qurien ect) so that the galexy can have all voices hurd nol just the ones the coincel wants to hear

[NICKjnp]

No... the Shadow Broker wanted to sell Shepard's body to the Collectors. The Illusive Man wanted to get it himself to revive Shepard. Liara stole Shepard's body from the Shadow Broker and gave it to Cerberus in order to save Shepard.

[DDXCA]

The thing about those cybernetic eyes... not only would artificial eyes give you better eyesight, they'd make great cameras. The illusive man can't be a hologram as Miranda talks to him in person. But, while physical, I think he's an illusion, as per the name - a human body with enough cybernetic hardware to let an AI use him as a sock puppet. Why? Organics wouldn't willingly work for an AI after the Geth rebellion.



TIM clearly wants human dominance but that doesn't mean he's human or even that he has humanity's best interests at heart. It may just mean we're clueless enough to do what he wants and he's using us like the Salarians used the Krogan.

[joejoe099]

PathofDaggers wrote...

No the shadow broker is......Blasto


But seriously, I am curious about TIM's funding, where he gets his seemingly unlimited resources and how he gets all his information before anyone else. Not to mention when he said that information is his business or something like that, I think it was right before or right after the derelect ship. But, judging from the first issue of the comic, Im pretty certain SB be one of the main characters in the last chapter of the Trilogy, seeing as how he [ spoilers for people that havent read the comic] was working with the collectors in the comic. But that right there is also proof that it isnt TIM.

ask EDI after joker mission to get full acces to all info on cerberus, like how they operate, where thier funds come from, and the like