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[Kozlovskiy]

Do you think we should be able to make an African Shepard? 

I just showed my African-American friend this game and he complained how it was racist becuase the main character isn't a "****". He said that "White" people are depicted as heroes because they're freeing the galaxy. I told him that it's a person and what difference does it make the color of his skin is. What do you guys think? Are you with me on this one?

[tthammy]

they stil have jacob and anderson -.- COUNCIL OF THE HUMAN? isn t that title big enough? >,< be happy sheppard is not a blond tall white guy

[monshael]

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Do you think we should be able to make an African Shepard? 

uhm..you can.

[Caozen]

Show him these:



http://www.ljplus.ru...h/thedd2/BD.JPG

http://30.media.tumb...zvpr9o1_500.jpg



As for his thoughts on the matter, I think it's hilariously blown out of proportions. To complain about that in a game like this with all kinds of aliens is just borderline ridiculous. Not to mention you have Jacob, so the overzealous really have nothing to complain about.



The only thing I would even remotely consider complaining about is Shephard's voice, and how it wouldn't match his or her appearance.

[cavallodispade]

monshael wrote...

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Do you think we should be able to make an African Shepard? 

uhm..you can.

yeah... am i mssing something somehow too?

[Geofftheted]

My Shepard is black. so is my councilman come to think of it...and his aide...an some of my crew members...hey wait a minute!

[Ashton808]

I think they should of made a different voice actor if you make your Shepard an African American.



Because Shepards voice actor with an African American doesnt really work out.

[Schneidend]

Mark Meer as a black Shepard works fine. Your friend might want to consider not playing the race card as regularly or dramatically as a Yugioh character activates a trap.

[Archmage Silvery]

I don't know... I think Mark Meer has a pretty neutral voice when it comes to that. Besides which, you would also need an Asian voice actor if you went that route. That would change the current cast of two voice actors into a cast of SIX voice actors... it's never going to happen.

[The Demonologist]

Were it my choice, I would've picked someone other than Mark Meer to sound more neutral. As it stands, your friend is blowing it out of proportion.

[DadeLeviathan]

You can make an african shepard. Apparently your friend must think Star Wars is racist too, since Luke Skywalker wasn't black.

[Spire7]

Ashton808 wrote...

I think they should of made a different voice actor if you make your Shepard an African American.

Because Shepards voice actor with an African American doesnt really work out.

It would be awesome for sure!

But keep in mind that we are talking about the main character of the game who appears and talks in every cutscene and dialogue in the game with multiple options on what to say. Adding additional voice actors beyond the original two is going to add a significant amount to the cost and time of development as well as disk space on a game that is already cramped into two disks as it is. I think they tried to pick a neutral voice for shepard but I agree that it doesn't really match the African/African American look much at all.

Modifié par Spire7, 30 janvier 2010 - 10:14 .

[finnithe]

Didn't the books discuss how most people didn't descend from a single peoples? Like Anderson, I think he's pretty mixed in terms of descent. Of course, people like Samesh Bhatia seriously throw that into question, what with the heavy accent and all. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure most are mixed in the 22nd' century.

[Ashton808]

True, that would be to complicated for Bioware.



Ok! We just finished every single piece of Diologue for white shepard!



YAY!



Time for Black Shepard!



Awwwwww.

[DadeLeviathan]

Spire7 wrote...

Ashton808 wrote...

I think they should of made a different voice actor if you make your Shepard an African American.

Because Shepards voice actor with an African American doesnt really work out.

It would be awesome for sure!

But keep in mind that we are talking about the main character of the game who appears and talks in every cutscene and dialogue in the game with multiple options on what to say. Adding additional voice actors beyond the original two is going to add a significant amount to the cost and time of development as well as disk space on a game that is already cramped into two disks as it is. I think they tried to pick a neutral voice for shepard but I agree that it doesn't really match the African/African American look much at all.

I'm sure they would have, if they could but most voice actors are part of SAG, just like regular actors. Thus they have a limit to how much they have to be paid. And you can bet that actors like Claudia Black, Jennifer Hale, and Simon Templeman are going to demand much higher rates than the standard. This means that for a four hour session (since the limit, i believe, is $300 per hour) you could be paying anywhere from $1200 to $10,000, or maybe even more. And recording all the dialogue for a game like Mass Effect 2 probably takes at least 20 hours per voice actor, possibly even more. That's $6,000 to $50,000 PER ACTOR. To fork over anotehr $50k for a top-rate voice actor like Hale or Meer to voice the protagonist, let alone 6 others, would never be approved in the budget. 

Modifié par DadeLeviathan, 30 janvier 2010 - 10:20 .

[DadeLeviathan]

finnithe wrote...

Didn't the books discuss how most people didn't descend from a single peoples? Like Anderson, I think he's pretty mixed in terms of descent. Of course, people like Samesh Bhatia seriously throw that into question, what with the heavy accent and all. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure most are mixed in the 22nd' century.

Just because they're mixed doesn't mean they wouldn't have an accent. People from India are still going to have an Indian accent. 

[Captain Jazz]

My she-pard is... not exactly black, but she's not your typical white woman, maybe a child of black and white parents... but hey, what does it matter? The hero is human, beyond that almost everything is up to the player.

[ranger614]

"Your friend might want to consider not playing the race card as regularly or dramatically as a Yugioh character activates a trap."



Lawl.



I'm taking this and framing it up on a wall.

[Kwonnern]

You can!



It's possible Kozlovsky!



Someone made Shep looking like Geordi La Forge (with visor and all!)

[Zaxares]

I can see your friend's point in that the 'default' Shepard is depicted as a white man, but you, as the player, are free to make Shepard whoever you want. Heck, my first Shepard was an Asian guy. It is unfortunate that we don't have voicesets to suit accents for people from different parts of Earth (I really enjoyed meeting Samesh Bhatia), but let's be fair to Bioware; it would be prohibitively expensive and time-consuming to record different voicesets for every single piece of dialogue in the game.

[Vena_86]

Its called character customization?

I have a black Shepard my self.



ME2 is infact an RPG to some extend.

[Mehow_pwn]

Omg you really complain about that? Than what if I say I want a Chinese shepard

[Captain Jazz]

I want a cockney Shepard with a tracheotomy...

You could quite easily accuse the game of being sexist because the default character is a guy. Damn those bioware people for not picking a transgendered omniracial confusomat for the default! Damn them!!

[Lightice_av]

Just because they're mixed doesn't mean they wouldn't have an accent. People from India are still going to have an Indian accent.

Not necessarily. Even today there are hundreds of thousands of people living in India with British accents. As in-planet immigration becomes simple as travelling to a neighbouring city, the accents are going to mix up even more.



They put most neutral possible voices to both Shepards because having a variety of voices and accents would just have been way too much to ask in a game with fully voiced dialogue.