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GumbyTheBorg

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I was all excited about this game. I love Bioware products, but this is such crap, I fell let down (and I fell as though I lost $59). Every (and I mean almost EVERY) single fight I ever pick, my party gets wiped. I tried my best to equip everyone with the best stuff and give them tons of potions and the such, but every brigand, thug and half-wit that moves can totally destroy my party as though we are nothing but a rag tag group of elementary school girls. It's totally disgusting. My character should be highly trained (as told at the beginning of the game) and should be a Warden and highly skilled, yet ever drunken loser with a sword can kill me. I been doing this "Back Alley" quest and for each of the three different "Back Alleys" I've had to reload the game at least 11 times or so until I could win a single fight. Total absolute crap. I don't feel heroic or good about my character and I'd certainly not having any fun. It's just one big massive exercise in reloading and frustration. For the first time ever, I will set aside this Bioware game and not bother to finish it whatsoever. And I'm on NORMAL difficulty.Image IPB

Modifié par GumbyTheBorg, 05 novembre 2009 - 09:02 .


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Davidolowich

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10 Words. Easy Mode.

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Theronyll Itholien

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Same here, buddy. And don't mind the people who will enter this thread saying how they play on nightmare mode and haven't had a single wipe yet. It's either bullcrap or they are kiting and/or potion spamming - which is, imo, not the way it should be done.

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Eidolonn

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And I'm on NORMAL difficulty.




So play it on EASY.


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Theronyll Itholien

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Davidolowich wrote...

2 Words. Easy Mode.


Easy is too easy.
Normal is already frustrating.

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ShuMaKisO

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RAGE!!!!
you should turn your nerdrage into stradegy!

Modifié par ShuMaKisO, 05 novembre 2009 - 08:03 .


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Chris_Really_Rocks

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Try using tactics. Equipment and buffs alone are not enough, Try to analyze why you are dying and devise a strategy. This isn't a hack-n-slash rpg -- tactics are essential.

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This game is more about being strategic than other games, you have to think about your enemies - take into consideration the strengths and weaknesses of your party, and use Pause to your advantage. You can't run and gun in this game. Have you tried temporarily changing the difficulty downwards to see if its just those encounters that are problematic?



My opinion is total opposite of yours in regards to the game, I love it.

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I've NEVER played a game on easy in my life. If a game in unplayable on NORMAL or the game forces you to have just the absolute perfect combination of party members and skills and one single inch outside that, you are toast, then the game developers made a bad product and do not deserve my attention. Shame on you Bioware, shame on you....

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Try focus firing on one opponent at a time. You can take down the weaker enemies pretty fast that way and it gets easier. I save the tough monsters for last and that seems to work well.



Also remember to use the '=' key to select the entire party at once to switch targets if you play PC.

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It's probably the PC version normal thats equal to the easy on the consoles. If so don't worry it get's easier once your char level up, for now going at it during those though fights on easy should do the trick

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Obviously the only thing that can be said here is: L2P



Also, EZ-mode is over there ---->

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GumbyTheBorg wrote...

I've NEVER played a game on easy in my life. If a game in unplayable on NORMAL or the game forces you to have just the absolute perfect combination of party members and skills and one single inch outside that, you are toast, then the game developers made a bad product and do not deserve my attention. Shame on you Bioware, shame on you....


As I said try a couple things first.  The game certainly got my attention early on but I am doing pretty well now after getting the hang of it.

Oh and your missle weapons...use them.  softening up your enemies at range is good to.

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Chris_Really_Rocks

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Are you playing console or PC? Ever played Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape: Torment ? (I suspect not, otherwise you probably wouldn't be having problems).

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Bluto Blutarskyx

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umm-



i'm no normal and the dog finished off one of my battles while unintentionally unintended last night. (forgot to pause). granted, i'm not far into the game at all.

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What tactics are you using during these fights? No offense intended, but you probably are not taking advantage of your party members, or you are not paying attention to something that is repeatedly killing you. More information on what you're doing and why you're dying would be needed to give you advice.



If you're just complaining that the game is too hard in general then I'm sorry - there's not much I can do to help.

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Theronyll Itholien

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Chris_Really_Rocks wrote...

Try using tactics. Equipment and buffs alone are not enough, Try to analyze why you are dying and devise a strategy. This isn't a hack-n-slash rpg -- tactics are essential.


Analization:

1. Enemies pretend my tank isn't even there.
2. My DPS characters are being hit twice as hard as they hit the enemy.
3. That F*bleep*ING heal-spell cooldown!
4. I'm not particularly stockpiled with healingpots.
5. I rather die fighting than spamming all my healingpots down the throat in a single battle.
6. Tanks are useless because they don't have AoE skills.

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I do HUGE tactics. Using geography to my advantage, pulling on part of a group my way to make it more manageable, making sure to flank enemies and be behind them. Using stun spells and healing spells. I press space bar 400 per fight so that I may micro-manage every single move of every single one of my party members. But in most fights, I usually totally run out of potions and mana and eventually, party members. I use Acids, poisons and maximime the ability usage of each of my party members. Each fight takes me about 15 minutes to run and almost invariably, my party gets wiped. Like I said: NO FUN + TOTAL FRUSTRATION = ME NO PLAY. Bioware really screwed up on that one.

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Don't say the game sucks if you are the one who sucks. Use tactics and play it right you blathering idiot.

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Honestly, there are far to many easy games, go play one of them. I'm enjoy playing a game where My charcter isn't god. It's cool that being outnumbered actually constitutes a threat.



I'm not trying to be hardcore, I'm just enjoying, well, not coasting through the game.

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Orogun01 wrote...

It's probably the PC version normal thats equal to the easy on the consoles. If so don't worry it get's easier once your char level up, for now going at it during those though fights on easy should do the trick


You have things mixed up.

Easy mode on the PC = Normal mode on the consoles

Normal mode PC = Hard mode consoles

The PC difficulty is scaled significantly higher than that of the console.

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no offense to the topic starter, but i think that gamers (particularly people who only know an RPG to be WoW) this is a hack n slash. it's completely different. if you ever played Baldur's Gate it has the same difficulty spikes IMO. poster prior to this one are correct when it is ALL about strategy and tactics. i am glad i didn't buy a game ill breeze through in a week. good job Bioware.

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GumbyTheBorg wrote...

I do HUGE tactics. Using geography to my advantage, pulling on part of a group my way to make it more manageable, making sure to flank enemies and be behind them. Using stun spells and healing spells. I press space bar 400 per fight so that I may micro-manage every single move of every single one of my party members. But in most fights, I usually totally run out of potions and mana and eventually, party members. I use Acids, poisons and maximime the ability usage of each of my party members. Each fight takes me about 15 minutes to run and almost invariably, my party gets wiped. Like I said: NO FUN + TOTAL FRUSTRATION = ME NO PLAY. Bioware really screwed up on that one.


Wow man I am not sure what to tell you.

In alot of fights all I have to do is make sure my team changes targets in the right order and make sure I know where all the enemies are.

Are you a warrior?  In most BW games it is best to have your first game be a warrior class until you get the hang of it.

Modifié par Valmy, 05 novembre 2009 - 08:09 .


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I agree with the OP.

This game is by far TOO much a strategy game than a ROLE playing game... most fanboys here don't want to hear that (I know), it's still true all together.

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GumbyTheBorg wrote...

I've NEVER played a game on easy in my life. If a game in unplayable on NORMAL or the game forces you to have just the absolute perfect combination of party members and skills and one single inch outside that, you are toast, then the game developers made a bad product and do not deserve my attention. Shame on you Bioware, shame on you....


You don't need a perfect combination of party members to play on normal. What you do need is some skill in tactical combat. For example I run with 1 warrior 1 rogue and two mages, neither of which are a spirit mage. There are many challenging battles but any time I lost it was because I wasn't properly utilizing what I had available to me. I suggest you take the time to read all the abilities of your characters carefully and adjust how you're approaching these fights.

What do you have in your group?