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[emyln]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...
Taunt is AoE? I'm sure I read that skill a dozen of times and still thought it was single target This changes things...

Yep.  Its a weak AE but it is that.  Personally I strongly recommend getting Shale and using Bellow then taunt.   Seriously good.

• Activated
• Range: Personal
• Activation: 41
• Cooldown: 20s
• Requires: Level 4
• Requires: 14 Strength

A mocking bellow catches the attention of nearby foes, increasing
their hostility toward the warrior. Frightening Appearance increases
the effect.

[JessicaGlenn]

I too go with 1 warrior,1 rogue and two mages. Furthermore, I have all of them ranged. So I use abilities like threaten and fighting in chokepoints to make sure my tank holds them off while the others throw spells at them. It works unless we get ambushed.

[NewYears1978]

Well I have had some trouble with some fights..had to rethink and strategize them..but I havn't had as much problem as you. There were some fights I just realized I couldn't win with the party I had (A Revenant in the Kokari wilds..or what it Brecilian forest? One of them)...



The mini dragon ripped me to shreds the first time..but after a few tries I got that one.



I love not breezing through the game..makes it better.

[Koran]

I started this game on the hard difficulty and didn't have a problem up until an hour or 2 in. But all you need to do is downsize the difficulty on the harder fights until you win but make sure to try atleast 6 times before you do that and always bump it back up less you get noobified

[Jaucinet]

"This game is by far TOO much a strategy game than a ROLE playing game... most fanboys here don't want to hear that"



Too right. It's not masochism - we really like it this way. Why can't we have our game then, when there's variety to suit everyone else elsewhere?

[Macrake]

Are you people serious? So far its been very easy for me, playing hard mode pc. 11 hours no wipe yet. Most fights I just focus target and let morrigan cast heal whenever its ready. On boss fights I have to pause and use abilities, and also position properly. They're actually just tank n spank fights. Pretty ZZZ tbh. I guess nightmare is just less stun duration/more dmg.



What tactics?

[Sheylan]

Wynne+2 warriors and a rogue is probably the best setup for normal mode. Beyond that... just make sure you focus fire targets down. Your rogue should Always be behind his target. Using your rogue to bounce from target to target and popping stuns on them is CRITICAL. If you have Dog as your second warrior (perfectly viable) his AoE stun should be used every time it comes off cooldown.



I'm playing on hard on PC, and while it is unforgiving, it is far from impossible.

[OctopusRush]

I guess modern mainstream games have ruined the skillset of your average player. Not that there's anything wrong with easy games but I am always surprised when people complain about difficulty in any AAA title.



My first RPG was an incredibly terribad(horrible writing+badly drawn pictures bordering on pornography), difficult, indie dungeon crawler named Laxius Power. It took my 12 year old self two weeks to fully map out the final dungeon. DA seems downright merciful.



My point is: OP, if you like the game but just can't handle the difficulty either go down to Easy Mode or (What I'd do/did in the past) try out new tricks and slowly lose your way to victory until you are good enough. After a certain critical threshold it only gets easier until you miss the difficulty .

[Volts74]

It is all about the tactics. I was playing on Normal with no tactics and I wasn't struggling too much. Then I played with the tactics and now the game is a breeze. I think I need to try Hard...

[HorkaThane]

 Thats what happens when you come from WoW to a real rpg. If you didnt play Baulders gate you are gonna have a hard time. This is Old school rpg and tactical thinking or you are dead meat. 

Might wanna read the manual and learn how to script your npc's for events. Also remember you need to think from a "Party" perspective and not a ME, I perspective.

[Holy Mortar]

Auraad wrote...

I agree with the OP.
This game is by far TOO much a strategy game than a ROLE playing game... most fanboys here don't want to hear that (I know), it's still true all together.

Guess I'm one of them. Always loved RPG's, but played them as a loner mostly. It is true, there are people here for sure, me among them, that fear of a possibility, that this will be tactics HEAVY game. Oh well, we'll se it after 3,5 hours here in EU...

[LumpOfCole]

The game requires a lot of thought to play. Equip your tanks with Taunt / Threaten ASAP. Your world just got easier.

[Tsuga C]

I've seen enough of this (OP) over the last several days to begin giving credence to the oft mentioned theory that, over all, games are less difficult than they were some years back.  Surprise!  You need to pause, think, and use the "if...then" tactics freely.

[Sheylan]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

Nassou wrote...

Don't say the game sucks if you are the one who sucks. Use tactics and play it right you blathering idiot.

Nonsense. He doesn't suck. I share his frustration and I certainly do NOT suck. I'm an experienced NWN player, for one. If I could only get my tank to do his freakin' job, I, too, would have an easy time. The thing is that the enemies go for my fragile rogue (who has 30+ dexterity and yet NEVER dodges any freakin' attack) and the mages. Alistair just stands there, hitting an enemy in the back for 10 damage a hit.

Wash your mouth, boi.

Str is more important than constitution for tanks in this game. Makes it much easier to hold agro.

[wlcina]

Sorry, this game isnt really crap, but - overhyped ! Isnt in fact very good, I would say about 7 out of 10.

what I do not like ?

- stupid targetting system, (like on consoles)

- gps for quests ? wtf ? (should be turned off by default)

- fighting - bugs (npc is just getting damage and stucked next to enemy, hapens very often to me)

- camera - cannot see archers in over top camera mode, and they shooting me... ???

- spells / races / classes ? lol play nwn, they have lot more !

- no coop ? - most stupid thing bioware did !

- just few info's about spells / weapons / armors /stuff - just basic info

- AI of enemies ? LMAO! - none - just rushing towards character you control

- User Interface ? UI isnt very good, on each side of screen omg.

- spell damaging your party - it renders some spells very unpratcical to unusable - ty bioware, it cannot be turned off.



This is my last game from Bioware I bought. It will never happen once more again. (I have all their rpg sagas (BG/IWD (cannot remember if its Bioware) NWN + all expansions, and NWN2 + all expansions.



If you want - really good and monstrous RPG game - try Drakensang. Much much better like this rpg tryout. Dragon Age - surprise - unfortunately - bad one.

[VanDraegon]

I was getting wiped a fair amount of times as well. Until i started planning out the fights better. Even when i did that and wiped, on normal mode, the game is still great. You can switch on the fly if you have to. There were a couple fights i had to drop the difficulty down to easy, then just went back up to normal afterwards.



The game is great, the reviews from fellow gamers and all the sites agree. Plan your battles better.....or keep crying about it.

[WeeRLegion]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

I was sounding the same way you do. Wait till you get your hands on the game.

I'm telling you, those people who say the game isn't hard or frustrating are the people who don't mind spending most of their time preparing for combat and buffing up etc.

I myself don't like that. I like the story, the dialogues and the pew-pew combat. DA:O is too much strategy I guess. I can't be arsed to buff up and debuff the enemy. I want to rain fire and hell down on them. I want my Gray Warden to be such a freakin' heroic dude he can decapitate 8 darkspawn in a single blow.. for example.
And seriously, if you are as skilled as Duncan told you to be then you should indeed be able to rather easily fight off 2 or 3 enemies on your own. In this game, however, you have to make sure you have a healthpotion with you een when engaging in a 1 vs 1 fight.

/yawn

I just wanna kill stuff and get on with it.

PS: In the end I really really think I often die due to Dog. I love that beast, but he's just way less sufficient than a humanoid partymember.

Reading the comments around the forums here, it seems like people would be going at the game with tons of different strategies. Some going with the traditional Tank/Healer/DPS, while some taking even a 100% melee group for a tour.
Point being that, clearly, with as many viable strategies as presented around here, the game manages to be both challenging and flexible at the same time (which I think is a rare feat; loads of difficult games are fairly limited in the range of viable tactical options).
So, sure, I may have to get a feel for it, starting out playing on easy difficulty, but eh, evidence says that it's not in any way impossible on any difficulty level.

And yeah, while I'm very much a strategy fan, I do also enjoy the banter and roleplaying aspects a plenty, so if this game will provide both a plenty, methinks that'll make for a very happy (and preoccupied...) me for the near future. ^^

[OctopusRush]

ITT Trollercoasters

EDIT: Wrong thread. sorry.

Modifié par OctopusRush, 05 novembre 2009 - 08:38 .

[Adrigaar]

Auraad wrote...

I agree with the OP.
This game is by far TOO much a strategy game than a ROLE playing game... most fanboys here don't want to hear that (I know), it's still true all together.

You think it should ignore strategy just cos you level your character up? your playing a ROLE in the game. hence role playing. and if i were the character running into battle with legions of ugly monsters personally i'd get quite hung up on things like strategy and tactics.. you know the general bread and butter of keeping your guys alive in a battle. if you'd rather say "**** the role, by role-playing-game all i ment was i get to add levels to my character" then i suggest you get a dictionary, an education, and a different game

[GumbyTheBorg]

Chris_Really_Rocks wrote...

Are you playing console or PC? Ever played Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape: Torment ? (I suspect not, otherwise you probably wouldn't be having problems).

I've played every single game ever made by Bioware has ever made...

[Ashbery]

Auraad wrote...

I agree with the OP.
This game is by far TOO much a strategy game than a ROLE playing game... most fanboys here don't want to hear that (I know), it's still true all together.

 "Dragon Age is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate."

[GumbyTheBorg]

Slainangel52 wrote...

GumbyTheBorg wrote...

I've NEVER played a game on easy in my life. If a game in unplayable on NORMAL or the game forces you to have just the absolute perfect combination of party members and skills and one single inch outside that, you are toast, then the game developers made a bad product and do not deserve my attention. Shame on you Bioware, shame on you....

What do you have in your group?

Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Warrior

[Vicious]

STRATEGY people. I have had only a couple HARD fights, my party is hardly perfect, and my PC has not gone down ONCE. EVER.



A word of help: Armor is huge if you are a warrior. HUGE. I raised my strength high enough to equip the Blood Dragon Armor and then equipped the set.



Also, crowd control is paramount. Oftentimes i will be beating on one enemy and KD/stun a different enemy just so he'll stop dealing damage. One hit can make all the difference.



This game is fantastic so far for me. Balls to the walls combat but a sound strategy and good use of your abilities is huge.



Also, tactics. A lot of people dont seem to understand how they work. Get them working so you dont have to babysit your characters. I have my character and Alistar hold the line, Morrigan charges in and stuns everyone with mindblast.



Also Shale is probably the most useful character period.

[Andari_Surana]

I play nightmare, cause i like to roleplay as the god of strategy, plus i have no shame in hitting the pause button every 2 seconds if need be.