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[sypherin]

When the majority of the players can deal with a game and you can't, is the problem with the game or is the problem with you?



I don't see that much complaints about the difficulty being impossibly hard for this. Most would agree it's a bit of a challenge sometimes but never is it too hard as the OP so implies.

[DeepGray]

GumbyTheBorg wrote...

I've NEVER played a game on easy in my life. If a game in unplayable on NORMAL or the game forces you to have just the absolute perfect combination of party members and skills and one single inch outside that, you are toast, then the game developers made a bad product and do not deserve my attention. Shame on you Bioware, shame on you....

Sounds like a pride issue or you just don't want to learn the ruleset and mechanics of the game.

[Kempeorlaxan]

Grakz wrote...

Macrake wrote...
You are a noob. I play on hard pc and dont use poison/traps because its

Well of least you've got one accomplishment in life, it certainly isn't the ability to discuss things like an adult.

Sometimes its boring to be polite, mate.

[Dam Wookie]

I played as a rogue and found it quite difficult early on. The positioning required, little healing available and the large damage I took. Then my DLC finished downloading and I restarted as a mage. By the time it gets to having 2 other mages in my party I have loads of healing available and did a large amount of damage. Most fights then didn't require that much in the way of tactics apart from spamming freezing spells, projectile spells and heals. So it can just depend on your party.

However try to either set up the AI to work well or switch it off (if it clicks into place you don't have to do allot in some fights, same settings with a different group make it like they are trying to kill you). Most fights (without mages) tend to be balanced so once the scales tip you're in trouble. Try to pull a few enemies around corners or through doors (just by sending one character in). If your characters have injuries they will struggle. Spec your tank for shield and sword, use heavy armour over extra stats, defensive stances and flanking shield bonus skills, add some con, don't worry primarily about their damage amount or stamina and buy lots of the cheapest healing pots. As long as you work out how to keep the tank alive and threatening most fights are doable on the first go....not all though.

[allothernamesweretaken]

Willing to bet OP isn't using any crowd control.

[Chesta12345]

There is a wonderful move called "Taunt."  Your warriors can learn it at level 4.  Taunt and shield defense make things fairly manageable.

Also, target enemy NPCs in this order:  Mage, Rogue, Warrior.

Those guys in the dress and the dudes DWing in leather die the soonest AND do the most damage.

Most of this seems like it shoudl be common sense, though...

[Osprey39]

I've just been reading this forum when I take a break from work tasks for a few minutes but I had to respond to this thread.

I am on my first playthrough and I started on hard mode because normal had dumbed down friendly fire.  I've wiped a few times but it was always when I underestimated my opponents and just tried to brute force through an encounter.  After wiping, I went back and did the encounters again with a more tactical approach and they were all quite doable.

Some things that you absolutely have to do:

- Change the stance of your NPCs so they do not chase runners.  Ranged enemies frequently take off running and will pull your melee guys away from your group to be surrounded.  Changing stances in the tactics menu solves that.

- Potions.  You must use them.  This is the first game of this sort that I've played that I didn't end up selling most of my lower level potions because I never used them.  There's a reason they are so easy to come by and that reason is the game expects you to use them.  If you don't use them because of some preconceived notion that you shouldn't have to, that's your failure and not the games.

- You have to take control of your NPCs at times to make sure they do what you want them to do when you want them to do it.  The tactics menu is great but it has limitations.  The NPCs only have 3 conditions that they can respond to in each tactics set.  Sometimes you need one of your warriors to shield bash a guy that is about to kill your mage.  You're probably going to have to do that yourself.

I could go on but I've got a job to get back to.  I'll sum it up by saying that I don't find this game to be too hard.  It is challenging and I welcome that.  Far too many games these days are too easy (and yet people still try to find and use cheats for them, /boggle) so a game that actually makes me think is like a breath of fresh air.  My character is a mage and I have to be pretty careful about managing my mana against a big group of enemies or I'll be standing there doing minimal damage with my staff.  That doesn't make the game suck to me, it makes it great.  Now it might not be the OP's cup of tea but if he has played other Bioware RPGs (and I'm talking the older D&D based games, not Mass Effect and the like) then I just can't see how he would be disappointed in this one.  They stayed true to form with this one and maybe kicked it up just a notch but Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 were no walk in the park and Planescape was probably harder than this game is.

[jableskage]

GumbyTheBorg wrote...

I was all excited about this game. I love Bioware products, but this is such crap, I fell let down (and I fell as though I lost $59). Every (and I mean almost EVERY) single fight I ever pick, my party gets wiped. I tried my best to equip everyone with the best stuff and give them tons of potions and the such, but every brigand, thug and half-wit that moves can totally destroy my party as though we are nothing but a rag tag group of elementary school girls. It's totally disgusting. My character should be highly trained (as told at the beginning of the game) and should be a Warden and highly skilled, yet ever drunken loser with a sword can kill me. I been doing this "Back Alley" quest and for each of the three different "Back Alleys" I've had to reload the game at least 11 times or so until I could win a single fight. Total absolute crap. I don't feel heroic or good about my character and I'd certainly not having any fun. It's just one big massive exercise in reloading and frustration. For the first time ever, I will set aside this Bioware game and not bother to finish it whatsoever. And I'm on NORMAL difficulty.

havent even got the game yet but i fell you are a complete retard

[BigW]

GumbyTheBorg wrote...
*Sigh* Don't get me wrong. Apart from the insane difficulty level, I love this game. But as a role-player, I am playing the ROLE of a highly trained hero. So imagine how I feel when a group of drunken idiots with swords come along and totally destroy my party of highly trained people... And again.... and again... etc...

For the majority of the fights I've had, I've had to reload 2 to 3 times to get the job done. Almost every fight costs me all of my potions and injury kits. I'm all for a challenge, but this game has turned into the most reloads I've ever done EVER. If I actually spend a percentage of my time waiting for the last save to reload, then there's something wrong.

Have you gotten the strategy guide?
It might be worth investing in.  It has a lot of tips and strategies in it that you can't find in the manual, and I think it might be well worth your time and money if you are deadset against changing your difficulty level.

[Torowa]

Dam Wookie wrote...
If your characters have injuries they will struggle.

This.  Hugely important.

[Maria Caliban]

OhBretterson wrote...

no offense to the topic starter, but i think that gamers (particularly people who only know an RPG to be WoW) this is a hack n slash. it's completely different.

Actually, the combat is a great deal like World of Warcraft would be if you could pause and control more than one toon. World of Warfcraft is the reason I find the game as easy as I do.

[Grakz]

jableskage wrote...

havent even got the game yet but i fell you are a complete retard

I think if you 'fell' someone is a complete retard that you've outed yourself.

[Timortis]

Unfortunately this is a case of PEBKAC.



I've been playing on nightmare and no, I don't spam potions. I didn't buy any potions and didn't even craft any until I left the first village. Yes I wipe, all the time, but it's expected, and it's what makes the game challenging and fun.

[Cork85]

I play on normal, with 3 warriors(my guy being the main tank others acting as off tank/dps) and one mage (morigen). I have no healing spells i just use potions. While i had some close calls I haven't wiped yet.

[sentastorm]

I am sure I am going to find this game hard even on easy mode .

But , that doesn't make it a crap game .. with presevance and with the help of this forum. i will get the hang of it . dragon age promises to be one of the classics that will remain in your collection for years.



To Gumby keep trying. Its worth it

[senjukannon]

I'm currently playing on hard mode. It's really challenging. I really like it. You must use tactics in this game.

[jableskage]

Grakz wrote...

jableskage wrote...

havent even got the game yet but i fell you are a complete retard

I think if you 'fell' someone is a complete retard that you've outed yourself.

i fell ye 

[Zekindo]

The battles in this game are not who has teh best gear, who has the most health etc etc. its about strategy and tactic, like who do you Crowd control, where do you position your party members, who do you kill first and so on...And by reading some of the wipe and death on this topic, most of you seem to think that its just rush in and kill...

[sentastorm]

I am sure I am going to find this game hard even on easy mode .

But , that doesn't make it a crap game .. with presevance and with the help of this forum. i will get the hang of it . dragon age promises to be one of the classics that will remain in your collection for years.



To Gumby keep trying. Its worth it

[hireuin]

what's wrong with a hard game?



OP has been spoilt by 5 years of boring easy games. play a proper game like BALDURS GATE (dragon age's advertised predecessor) and see how well you do on that normal mode. i remember reloading countless times because my party members kept getting INSTAGIBBED and i didn't have enough gold to buy a resurrect scroll...

[Chadthesad]

CommissarKrieg wrote...

I'm having the same problem as the OP, and no I haven't played baldurs gate or the like before. I have played KOTOR 1 and 2, but this is far far more difficult. I'm playing on normal on the PC and I was doing alright for awhile, but I've hit a total wall at Redcliffe. My party members seem to ignore my commands and do their own thing, or just stand there doing nothing until I order them to attack, and not being able to queue up abilities means I'm pausing almost every second. I would really like some advice on how to play a game like this (I'm familiar with all the traditional roles, tank dps heals). because it is getting rather frustrating rather quickly.

Okay, Redcliffe was sorta tricky. It's the first real challenge of the game after Lothering (if you decide to go there first I recommend it to). I'm playing on normal difficulty (PC version). My character is a rogue, daggers/archer hybrid. I built her to have high defense and dodge. My party while in redcliff consisted of Morrigan, Alisiter and Lianna. Morrigan is key to success in redcliff. She can pump out a excellent amount of single target damage, vuneralbility hex is extremely useful. She is also a much better tank than Alisiter is. Alisiter is basically a mid range dps warrior, he'll be able to draw attention away from your major dpser's.  Lianna is a solid dpser, she is most useful in ranged combat. Flanking targets is very handy, basically you stun then reposition your characters. You'll probably need to use potions, it's a tad frustrating early on finding them, but if you get herblism on your main or wait for Morrigan it becomes easier. Make sure you do not have hold position on too. What kind of character are you playing? I do not have Sten, but what I've heard he has excellent physical AOE damage, you may want to invest into him. Make use of magical resistant items too, even if they are useable. Hope this helps.

[hevy]

the game is total crap because you're terrible? maybe you can call your mommy and have her help you get through, tell her to bring your binky and a diaper too... seriously gtfo

[Okpal]

I like it the way it is. Playing it on hard and loving every fight!

Maybe you are not made to be a warrior, try SIMS!

[Maedyan]

I'm still in the introduction part but,



There was one battle in the beginning though that took me like 4 tries. I couldn't win it until I selected the right conversation response and I ended up throwing a dagger in the guys neck which only left 2 enemies.



I eventually got into the groove & started positioning myself better and making better use of my stuns & shield bashes. I'm playing on Normal & so far it's pretty um, normal. I haven't even used pause in my battles since they haven't been that difficult yet.

[Chadthesad]

hireuin wrote...

what's wrong with a hard game?

OP has been spoilt by 5 years of boring easy games. play a proper game like BALDURS GATE (dragon age's advertised predecessor) and see how well you do on that normal mode. i remember reloading countless times because my party members kept getting INSTAGIBBED and i didn't have enough gold to buy a resurrect scroll...

Baldur's Gate was brutal with the hardcore D&D rules. I know exactly what you're talking about, this game is very difficult but it's not a "rage" quit game. I've been enjoying it.