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[Stoko981]

This just occured to me while I was watching a scene with Tali and Shepard. It might be a stupid question, maybe there's something obvious I'm missing, but why is it every single quarian suit has an opaque face plate? Clearly it's not actually opaque or they couldn't see out of it, it must work like a two way mirror or a tinted window. So what's the point of that? Why did they make that decision as a culture? The biggest question is "what do they look like underneath that mask?" but I think a better one is "why don't they wear transparent masks?". I mean, even when you have Shepard in his full helmet, the top half of his face is still visible. But even so, he can wear that helmet in a vacuum; it's still perfectly sealed. The transparancy of the faceplate wouldn't affect it's viability, so what gives?

[Serogon]

For the same reason that they don't show you Tali's face during the romance scene. Bioware enjoys tormenting people.

[Twitchmonkey]

UV protection, perhaps. That's why they put good beer in brown bottles, you know. I think.

[AntiChri5]

Privacy

[Zenon]

Perhaps they have sensitive eyes and the slightly opaque face plate serves like a shades. Or it is a design choice to make them a bit more mysterious? Or it is a reason that belongs into the spoiler section?

[The55PercentCrew]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

UV protection, perhaps. That's why they put good beer in brown bottles, you know. I think.

Brown beer bottles stop the fermintation. A quarian would want a tinted face sheild, because less light would slow groth of unwanted microbs.

Modifié par The55PercentCrew, 31 janvier 2010 - 12:20 .

[Stoko981]

Oh sure, as a design choice I get it. It makes them more mysterious, people have built Tali up in their heads so much that now they don't want to reveal it, because they know they'd never please everyone, all that. That's fine. I'm talking about the in-universe logic behind it. I don't think it's ever been brought up.

[Twitchmonkey]

The55PercentCrew wrote...

Brown beer bottles stop the fermintation. A quarian would want a tinted face sheild, because less light would slow groth of unwanted microbs.

There you go. I got the method right, not so much the purpose.

Modifié par Twitchmonkey, 31 janvier 2010 - 12:21 .

[AntiChri5]

Look at how the Quarians live. They are desperate for any privacy, which is one of the reasons they almost never take off the suits.

[kalerab]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Look at how the Quarians live. They are desperate for any privacy, which is one of the reasons they almost never take off the suits.

As far as I remember, when Kahlee was on the Fleet in Ascension the quarians were all outside their suits.

[Stoko981]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

The55PercentCrew wrote...

Brown beer bottles stop the fermintation. A quarian would want a tinted face sheild, because less light would slow groth of unwanted microbs.

There you go. I got the method right, not so much the purpose.

Although, would microbes that grow inside their suit be unwanted? It's basically stated the enviroment inside their suit is safe. It's exposing themselves to external environments that'll make them sick. It's never been said, anywhere, that there are microbes or anything else that can occur inside their suit for no reason. Even if the tinted faceplate slowed their growth as The55PercentCrew suggested, the key word is slowed, not prevented. They'd still suffer the problem. And as it's not an issue that's ever been raised, I'm guessing it's not something they suffer from at all. I mean, they can literally go years without removing those suits at all, if there were harmful microbes growing inside them, how would that work? And if it were an issue, and there was a system in place to take care of it, would reducing (but not eliminating, considering they still need to see) the amount of light that hits one small part of the body really make a difference?

As for brown beer bottles - I might be misunderstanding, but aren't they still transparent? Tinted brown, of course, but clear. You can see the liquid inside with no problem.

[Felix Golden]

I think in ME2 they are all in suits, is because Tali told them the ship that was coming in wasn't clean, thus why everyone was in suits, because any of the microbes could set them off and kill em, same with the research ship, they all wear suits because they are dealing with things from the outside world.

[Stoko981]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Look at how the Quarians live. They are desperate for any privacy, which is one of the reasons they almost never take off the suits.

Actually I thought one of the reasons they almost never take their suits off is because of the constant threat of explosive decompression. They're a very social people, by their nature, they enjoy getting into other people's business. How does hiding your face increase your level of privacy?

kalerab wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Look at how the Quarians live. They are desperate for any privacy, which is one of the reasons they almost never take off the suits.

As far as I remember, when Kahlee was on the Fleet in Ascension the quarians were all outside their suits.

Nope. The explosive decompression thing.

[Twitchmonkey]

Stoko981 wrote...
Although, would microbes that grow inside their suit be unwanted? It's basically stated the enviroment inside their suit is safe. It's exposing themselves to external environments that'll make them sick. It's never been said, anywhere, that there are microbes or anything else that can occur inside their suit for no reason. Even if the tinted faceplate slowed their growth as The55PercentCrew suggested, the key word is slowed, not prevented. They'd still suffer the problem. And as it's not an issue that's ever been raised, I'm guessing it's not something they suffer from at all. I mean, they can literally go years without removing those suits at all, if there were harmful microbes growing inside them, how would that work? And if it were an issue, and there was a system in place to take care of it, would reducing (but not eliminating, considering they still need to see) the amount of light that hits one small part of the body really make a difference?

As for brown beer bottles - I might be misunderstanding, but aren't they still transparent? Tinted brown, of course, but clear. You can see the liquid inside with no problem.

Well, the brown bottles significantly reduce fermentation, but I imagine an even darker, nearly opaque visor like that would do even more. They also certainly clean their armor on the flotilla, so even a fairly long excursion like the quests in the ME games would likely result in very little growth.

[orbit991]

Their susceptible to sickness in alien environments, its mentioned a few times in ME1 and 2.

[Twitchmonkey]

orbit991 wrote...

Their susceptible to sickness in alien environments, its mentioned a few times in ME1 and 2.

Yes. What was this in reference to? I am confused.

[Lightice_av]

The real reason for the tinted faceplates is probably their cultural need for privacy. On the Flotilla they share tiny living spaces with hundreds of people. Only behind their tinted visors they can get some personal space.

They're a very social people, by their nature, they enjoy getting into
other people's business. How does hiding your face increase your level
of privacy?

 

It puts a psychological barrier between yourself and other people by hiding your face. You can get a lite version of this in real life by wearing sunglasses - they immediately detach you from your surroundings somewhat. And while they are social people, everybody needs a bit of privacy from time to time.

Modifié par Lightice_av, 31 janvier 2010 - 12:47 .

[AntiChri5]

kalerab wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Look at how the Quarians live. They are desperate for any privacy, which is one of the reasons they almost never take off the suits.

As far as I remember, when Kahlee was on the Fleet in Ascension the quarians were all outside their suits.

I remember differently.  I cant remember the exact quote but while thinking about it it is one of the conclusions that Kahlee comes to on why they ALWAYS wear them.

The explosive decompression would only be an issue on some ships. Some of them are absoloute crap and it is a possibilty, but some are maintained very well, yet all Quarrians encountered wear it. The way i see it the suits have become a second face to Quarrians, the outer "public" face they show to everyone while only takig off the suits in the company of someone they are very close to.

[zacrobmer]

The55PercentCrew wrote...

Twitchmonkey wrote...

UV protection, perhaps. That's why they put good beer in brown bottles, you know. I think.

Brown beer bottles stop the fermintation. A quarian would want a tinted face sheild, because less light would slow groth of unwanted microbs.

I really have nothing to add to the actual thread, but beer bottles are not brown to stop fermentation. If that were the case beer that are bottle conditioned, that is carbonated by the natural process of yeast producing CO2, would not be possible.

The bottles are only brown to help stop "skunking" the beer due UV breaking down the hops alpha-acids.

[Deraldin]

AntiChri5 wrote...
I remember differently.  I cant remember the exact quote but while thinking about it it is one of the conclusions that Kahlee comes to on why they ALWAYS wear them.

The explosive decompression would only be an issue on some ships. Some of them are absoloute crap and it is a possibilty, but some are maintained very well, yet all Quarrians encountered wear it. The way i see it the suits have become a second face to Quarrians, the outer "public" face they show to everyone while only takig off the suits in the company of someone they are very close to.

If I'm not misremembering, when they showed up on the Flotilla, Kahlee asked if everyone was wearing thier suits because of them and the Quarian made some comment about the suits almost never coming off for various reasons.

[orbit991]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

orbit991 wrote...

Their susceptible to sickness in alien environments, its mentioned a few times in ME1 and 2.

Yes. What was this in reference to? I am confused.

Me not reading the entire question heh. As far as the proper Qestion, because it just looks good or maybe some anti glare thing, but I think its style over substance with these Quarians.

[AntiChri5]

Deraldin wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...
I remember differently.  I cant remember the exact quote but while thinking about it it is one of the conclusions that Kahlee comes to on why they ALWAYS wear them.

The explosive decompression would only be an issue on some ships. Some of them are absoloute crap and it is a possibilty, but some are maintained very well, yet all Quarrians encountered wear it. The way i see it the suits have become a second face to Quarrians, the outer "public" face they show to everyone while only takig off the suits in the company of someone they are very close to.

If I'm not misremembering, when they showed up on the Flotilla, Kahlee asked if everyone was wearing thier suits because of them and the Quarian made some comment about the suits almost never coming off for various reasons.

Which is why i said it is one of the reasons she thinks they always wear them. Not THE reason. It does explain the opauqe faceplates.

[Twitchmonkey]

Well a little bit of style never hurts.

[AntiChri5]

orbit991 wrote...

Twitchmonkey wrote...

orbit991 wrote...

Their susceptible to sickness in alien environments, its mentioned a few times in ME1 and 2.

Yes. What was this in reference to? I am confused.

Me not reading the entire question heh. As far as the proper Qestion, because it just looks good or maybe some anti glare thing, but I think its style over substance with these Quarians.

You havent touched the codex have you? Or read the second book..

[PiercedMonk]

Considering they spend most of their life in a suit, they don't really get to practice proper hygiene. As a result, most of them have fairly bad acne and acne scarring.