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[Angelonedge]

In ME1 I romanced and "saved" Ashley. Should I stay loyal to her, or is Miranda a much better option? How far do I have to get with Miranda before the game recognizes that I've cheated on Ashley? Just so I know where to create an new save. 

[shinobi602]

Why are you asking us? No offense but...you can't decide for yourself which character appeals to you more? You're asking us to tell you which character to have a romance with? Really lol?

[Nightvision91]

I agree with Shinobi your playthrough. Just do what you want haha.

[ODST 3]

Do a bunch of playthroughs so you can try them all out.

[EchoTango]

Angelonedge wrote...

In ME1 I romanced and "saved" Ashley. Should I stay loyal to her, or is Miranda a much better option? How far do I have to get with Miranda before the game recognizes that I've cheated on Ashley? Just so I know where to create an new save. 

There's a thread around here somewhere where the OP nails it I think.  I mean yeah you can play it anyway you want, there's no wrong answer.  But I think BioWare has got a brilliant piece of writing here.  The "love" of your life (Ash/Kaiden) has turned their back on you for now, you've all this other tail hanging around giving you doe eyes, it's real test if you want to go the monogamist route.

I romanced Ashley as a ParaShep in ME1, and will be turning down the other LI's until ME3.  Even though hot damn, Miranda's got it going on.

[Nightvision91]

I did have the fling with Ash in ME1, but it was just a fling for my Shepard. Once Ash bashed me, and left me standing there my Shepard was done. Then again I was already sort of flirting with Miranda.

[Jigero]

Actually there is an in game indicator that you have cheated on Ashley, if you had romance with Ashley and before you pick an new LI there is a picture of Ashley on Sheps desk in his cabin, if you get a new love interest, The picture is flipped down when you go back, but if you pick no one, Shep will stare at the picyure before going to the Omega relay.

Modifié par Jigero, 31 janvier 2010 - 03:10 .

[Angelonedge]

Thanks Echo for actually responding. I don't really understand all the "just choose" responses. My main question is how far alog can you get with Miranda before it "recognizes" that you've cheated on Ashley? That way I can save right before that point/experience it/and decide where to go from there. I don't really want to playthrough a whole new game, just to make one choice.

[shinobi602]

Angelonedge wrote...

Thanks Echo for actually responding. I don't really understand all the "just choose" responses. My main question is how far alog can you get with Miranda before it "recognizes" that you've cheated on Ashley? That way I can save right before that point/experience it/and decide where to go from there. I don't really want to playthrough a whole new game, just to make one choice.

How is that your main question? First thing you asked is " Should I stay loyal to her, or is Miranda a much better option?"

Well...it comes down to...who do you like more? We can't tell you who to like...

[MagicianCamille]

For my Paragon Shepard I romanced Liara in ME1...I was really liking Tali in ME2 but wasn't thinking too much on taking things anywhere until I met Liara on Illium and she was all into herself. Total personality change. From then on I had no regrets and surprisingly Tali's romance plot was the most enjoyable thing in the ME series so far. Disappointed I didn't see her face and that the consumation scene was so brief though.

[Angelonedge]

Jig you posted while I was typing. Can you give me a specific on how far in before that point? Like if I romance Miranda up until the final mission, then call it off, or can I not start a romance period? I've read on some posts that some have slept with both Jack and Miranda. Basically when is it recognized as you've picked someone else? By your post I'm assuming it's before going to the relay?

[Unschuld]

Ash was racist and a direct subordinate in the Alliance military.



Miranda was an egotistical Cerberous drone.



Tough choice.

[shinobi602]

Unschuld wrote...

Ash was racist and a direct subordinate in the Alliance military.

Miranda was an egotistical Cerberous drone.

Tough choice.

lulz, you got their characters completely wrong. You obviously did not delve into their characters AT ALL. I JUST beat the game with Miranda as my romance, and she couldn't be farther from an "egotistical Cerberus drone."

[Nightvision91]

Very true Shinobi if you talk with Miranda, you learn that she is a much better person than Ashley.

[Angelonedge]

shinobi602 wrote...

Angelonedge wrote...

Thanks Echo for actually responding. I don't really understand all the "just choose" responses. My main question is how far alog can you get with Miranda before it "recognizes" that you've cheated on Ashley? That way I can save right before that point/experience it/and decide where to go from there. I don't really want to playthrough a whole new game, just to make one choice.

How is that your main question? First thing you asked is " Should I stay loyal to her, or is Miranda a much better option?"

Well...it comes down to...who do you like more? We can't tell you who to like...

Seriously, you're starting to sound kinda trollish. I liked Ashley in ME1, that's why I romanced her. I like Miranda in ME2, but I'm carrying over from ME1. I'd like to do abit of seeing how Miranda is, but I don't want to get too far along and not like the outcome; then have to start all over to stay loyal. Same goes with Jack. I'm asking how do you know when the right moment to save is before the game "recognizes" a new love interest. I'm not/don't really have the time to play through 3 storylines to figure out which one I'm going to go with. I don't play these games in a "true" role playing way, where I imagine myself as the character and have to make "real life" decisions. That's what the save function is for.

[The Shelf]

Unschuld wrote...

Ash was racist...

Right, because Ash was totally the one who joined Cerberus...

[ljd121879]

Modifié par ljd121879, 31 janvier 2010 - 03:27 .

[Nightvision91]

The Shelf wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Ash was racist...

Right, because Ash was totally the one who joined Cerberus...

Miranda exsplains why she joined Ceberus, and it has nothing to do with Humans first. Ash was the one who complained about all of the aliens on Normandy almost everytime you talked to her. Still to each their own which is what makes ME great.

[Hangman522]

I'm not going to lie, I came into Mass Effect 2 with the mindset that I was going to continue my romance with Ashley. (Despite the fact that Yvonne Strahovski is beautiful and on Chuck, which is a great TV show.) As soon as she said she wasn't going to come with me on my mission I decided that Miranda was worth it. After a few conversations with Miranda I grew to like her much more than Ashley, she's way better written too.

[ljd121879]

Angelonedge wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Angelonedge wrote...

Thanks Echo for actually responding. I don't really understand all the "just choose" responses. My main question is how far alog can you get with Miranda before it "recognizes" that you've cheated on Ashley? That way I can save right before that point/experience it/and decide where to go from there. I don't really want to playthrough a whole new game, just to make one choice.

How is that your main question? First thing you asked is " Should I stay loyal to her, or is Miranda a much better option?"

Well...it comes down to...who do you like more? We can't tell you who to like...

Seriously, you're starting to sound kinda trollish. I liked Ashley in ME1, that's why I romanced her. I like Miranda in ME2, but I'm carrying over from ME1. I'd like to do abit of seeing how Miranda is, but I don't want to get too far along and not like the outcome; then have to start all over to stay loyal. Same goes with Jack. I'm asking how do you know when the right moment to save is before the game "recognizes" a new love interest. I'm not/don't really have the time to play through 3 storylines to figure out which one I'm going to go with. I don't play these games in a "true" role playing way, where I imagine myself as the character and have to make "real life" decisions. That's what the save function is for.

Well sir, you are then missing the entire point of the game. That is NOT what the save function is for.

[Jersey75639]

I don't get what anyone sees in the ashley romance that is so great. The only reason I would consider ashley over miranda is if the choice was forced on me by something like removing miranda from the third game, the character development than miranda goes through is on a whole other level from ashley's development in ME1 and 2 put together.. mostly because I don't see any development in ashley at all. And if something like that did happen, I would probably just ignore the romance subplot altogether.

[shinobi602]

Angelonedge wrote...

Seriously, you're starting to sound kinda trollish. I liked Ashley in ME1, that's why I romanced her. I like Miranda in ME2, but I'm carrying over from ME1.

Don't be so sensitive. I don't care if you think I'm trollish, whatever you want to think, that's fine. I'm in the same position, I really like both Ashley and Miranda, but I'm doing two seperate playthroughs for both of them, one staying loyal to Ash, and the other having a romance with Miranda.

I said no offense, I didn't mean it seriously. Just saying, it's the easiest solution.

[Angelonedge]

ljd121879 wrote...

Well sir, you are then missing the entire point of the game. That is NOT what the save function is for.

Maybe not to you, but games like this where a moral choice must be made, I use them that way. I don't have the luxury of doing multiple playthroughs as there are other games coming out, or time spent on other things. If you do/dedicate your time to replaying the same game over again to see all the different outcomes then kudos to you. I however do 1-2 playthroughs usually as a Paragon, then a Renegade and that's it.

[shinobi602]

Jersey75639 wrote...

I don't get what anyone sees in the ashley romance that is so great. The only reason I would consider ashley over miranda is if the choice was forced on me by something like removing miranda from the third game, the character development than miranda goes through is on a whole other level from ashley's development in ME1 and 2 put together.. mostly because I don't see any development in ashley at all. And if something like that did happen, I would probably just ignore the romance subplot altogether.

Ashley really opened up and changed her views on things if you kept at it and paragoned the whole way, which is what made it worth it to me. She's also the character that felt the most realistic in my opinion, like I was actually in a relationship...

[Nigawatts]

I think most people who don't like Miranda don't even do her Loyal Mission, cuz that reveals a lot of her background and motivations. Moreso than anything we got from Ashley.



I actually like Liara better in the sequel than I do Ashley, since she has actually evolved as a character. Ashley is basically the exact same person we met on Eden Prime.