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[Whereto]

For some this came to them quickly and for others like me it took abit to notice it, when you go to illium you meet the asari with the message from the rachni queen she mentions that you are fighting the ones that soured the songs of the rachni whom fought the citadel. The Rachni Queen on Noveria mentions 'a tone from space' that forced the rachni to "resonate with its own sour yellow note".  This could be refernce to the reapers useing the rachni as their first attempt to allow the reapers back in cause the keepers werent able to do there job. So incase your wondering or havent picked up on it the collectors were the 3rd attempt to allow the reapers back since the rachni, Sovergin and the collectors have all had a go at allowing the reapers back in. So for all the people wondering what happen if you let the rachni queen go she seems she knows that your fighting the ones that soured the others and she's out for blood maybe to prove that the rechni arent bad just were indoctinated.

So agian this is for the people that dont know and alot of it is speculation but from what i have sourced it seems that the rachni will be back and out for blood to prove they werent not under there own contol and it kinda proves they will be on your side for me3

[Housecat4]

HMM......this is quite interesting.

[Dave of Canada]

Paragon Shepard: Rachni, attack!

<Rachni attack the reapers>



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Renegade Shepard: Umm.. umm... wind, attack!

<wind blowing in the distance, Renegade Shepard is zapped into dust>

[Ronin Zakath]

Yeah it is heavily implied that the Collectors/Reapers drove the Rachni berserk, leading to the Rachni Wars.

[MentalKase]

Actually I was told that she was happy for me sparing her and that she will be ready to help me whn the times comes. And something about stopping the reason for the oily songs. Pretty confirmed that the Reapers were the reason the Rachni went berserk during the Rachni Wars.

[The Shelf]

Between this and the result of Tali's loyalty quest, I'm beginning to wonder if Renegade Shepards will even stand a chance in the final battle.  It looks like Paragon Shepard is going to have tons of help.

[Schneidend]

Renegade Shep could easily have the geth, krogan, and quarians. I'd rather have space gypsies, space lizard warriors, and robots than bugs any day.

[GnusmasTHX]

ME3 = Giant Zerg rush.

[The Shelf]

Ah, I haven't gotten to the Krogan and Geth stuff yet, so you may be right.  But wouldn't a Renegade Shepard tell the Quarians to wage war on the Geth and seriously hurt one force or the other?

[Whereto]

in two year the rachni have also sent out scouts so it proves of rapid expansion and the reapers unless they can travel extrmely fast will not get to the milky way in under 1 yr if they are lucky 5 yrs at max but thats doubtful. By that time the rachni would be much larger as proven by their quick developemnt they will be quite large at that time. a rachni squad mate would be intresting to say the least for me3

[Dave of Canada]

Schneidend wrote...

Renegade Shep could easily have the geth, krogan, and quarians. I'd rather have space gypsies, space lizard warriors, and robots than bugs any day.

Renegade Shepard:
Kills the Rachni.
Blows up the Geth.
Keeps the Krogan genophaged.
Tells the Quarians to go to war with the Geth.

The only thing Renegade Shepard actually has is Cerberus.

[GnusmasTHX]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Renegade Shep could easily have the geth, krogan, and quarians. I'd rather have space gypsies, space lizard warriors, and robots than bugs any day.

Renegade Shepard:
Kills the Rachni.
Blows up the Geth.
Keeps the Krogan genophaged.
Tells the Quarians to go to war with the Geth.

The only thing Renegade Shepard actually has is Cerberus.

And a giant blender that makes Reapers.

[defenestrated]

Dave of Canada wrote...

The only thing Renegade Shepard actually has is Cerberus.

And the giant Collector base filled with Reaper tech.

[Schneidend]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

And a giant blender that makes Reapers.

This.

Besides, I play a Renegade Shep that didn't tell the quarians to go to war with the geth, and didn't keep the Reaper-matic 3000. There's no law that says I'm not a Renegade if I don't or do stuff. My Renegade meter is still maximized.

[The Shelf]

Sure, but we're talking about a pure Renegade Shepard here. Someone who kills off the absolute maximum number of allies possible. Would a Shepard like that even stand a chance in the end?

[Schneidend]

What? Where, exactly, does it state that to be Renegade you have to kill off allies? What part of "my Renegade meter is maxed out" did you not understand?

[angelus2402004]

Where is this asari?

[KnightofPhoenix]

The Shelf wrote...

Sure, but we're talking about a pure Renegade Shepard here. Someone who kills off the absolute maximum number of allies possible. Would a Shepard like that even stand a chance in the end?

Sadly, in ME2, being a renegade means being a short sighted badass. I don't like it.
A paragon would be one who saves races because he would believe that everyone deserve to be saved. A renegade would save them because they are useful. That's how it should have been.

That being said, I was equally PAragon and Renegade (neither maximised of course).

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 31 janvier 2010 - 04:22 .

[HelterSkelter89]

The Shelf wrote...

Between this and the result of Tali's loyalty quest, I'm beginning to wonder if Renegade Shepards will even stand a chance in the final battle.  It looks like Paragon Shepard is going to have tons of help.

it only matters if your shepard is paragon in the first game. i had more than 50% renegade with less than 20 paragon and she still told me the rachni queen was thankful.

[Whereto]

angelus2402004 wrote...

Where is this asari?

if you didnt save the queen she isnt there but if you did when you go to liaras office she it just out in fornt on the wall going into the gap to go up the stiars

[grumpymooselion]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Renegade Shep could easily have the geth, krogan, and quarians. I'd rather have space gypsies, space lizard warriors, and robots than bugs any day.

Renegade Shepard:
Kills the Rachni.
Blows up the Geth.
Keeps the Krogan genophaged.
Tells the Quarians to go to war with the Geth.

The only thing Renegade Shepard actually has is Cerberus.

And a giant blender that makes Reapers.

The Renegade ending does net you the giant Reaper factory. One would hope that it gives you a technological edge . . . but at the same time, even as a renegade . . . who here really thinks we're going to be able to trust the Illusive Man in the long run?

[grumpymooselion]

HelterSkelter89 wrote...

The Shelf wrote...

Between this and the result of Tali's loyalty quest, I'm beginning to wonder if Renegade Shepards will even stand a chance in the final battle.  It looks like Paragon Shepard is going to have tons of help.

it only matters if your shepard is paragon in the first game. i had more than 50% renegade with less than 20 paragon and she still told me the rachni queen was thankful.

Paragon/Renegade doesn't matter at all. You can still take any action you like at any time. You can play Renegade an entire play through of ME2 but put in little pockets of Paragon. For example you can be nice to the Quarians, but mean to everything and everyone else.

[The Shelf]

Okay, guys, you're missing the point. Forget about me ever even mentioning Renegade Shepard. All I'm asking is if you try your darndest to kill off as many of your allies as you can, I wonder if you'll even be capable of winning in the end.

[Giantevilhead]

I doubt that all these "allies" will make any real difference in the end. The Destiny Ascension is the biggest and most powerful Dreadnaught in the galaxy and it's still smaller and weaker than Sovereign. There are less than 100 Dreadnaughts in the entire galaxy while there are thousands of Reapers. Even with all the Citadel race fleets, the Terminus race fleets, the Quarians Migrant fleet, the Geth fleet, and whatever forces the Krogans and Rachni have, the galaxy doesn't stand a chance against the Reapers in a real fight. More allies just means more meat for the blenders.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Giantevilhead wrote...

I doubt that all these "allies" will make any real difference in the end. The Destiny Ascension is the biggest and most powerful Dreadnaught in the galaxy and it's still smaller and weaker than Sovereign. There are less than 100 Dreadnaughts in the entire galaxy while there are thousands of Reapers. Even with all the Citadel race fleets, the Terminus race fleets, the Quarians Migrant fleet, the Geth fleet, and whatever forces the Krogans and Rachni have, the galaxy doesn't stand a chance against the Reapers in a real fight. More allies just means more meat for the blenders.

True.
Did you all see how huge the Reaper fleet is? Even with all the allies assembled, we don't have the same numbers, the same firepower and the same experience (reapers have done this countless times).
Obviously, beating the reapers will involve something other than brute strength, while our allies act as canon fodder.  

EDIT: Now I am concerned about the Quarian and Geth issue. I didn't talk about the war at the jury (neither con nor pro), figured it was internal politics that I have no business with. Mistake.
Hopefully in ME3, we can rectify this.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 31 janvier 2010 - 04:49 .