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Why does Cerberus have an insignia?


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WillieStyle

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So I just replayed the Jack rescue quest (I am a serial restarter).
I get to the final scene where she looks outside and sees the normandy.  Then she notices the Cerberus insignia and gets pissed.

Seems like this is the sort of thing that would happen a lot to an "secret" organization that insists on plastering its insignia on uniforms, vehicles, buildings and the like.

Where's the upside? Is there ever a time when the Illusive man would want every Tom, Dick and Galactical Law Enforcement Official to know that the top-secret, incredibly expensive, space craft (made by stealing Alliance technology no less) belongs to Cerberus?

I can just picture it now:
Detective A: You know, I thought this guy I just captured for trying to blow up an Asari research facility was just a random nutbag.  I even bought his story about "just hating blue chicks."

Detective B: So how did you know he's connected to my counter-terrorism investigation?

Detective A: The insignia on his very fashionable jumpsuit of course.

Detective B: Don't you love working in a galaxy filled with retarded evil geniuses?

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It's probably the logo of their front company, Cord-Hislop Aerospace. Jack is just privy to a little more than most.



The SR2 was probably even made in CHA facilities, as they are a company that manufactures starships. It would make sense for the logo to be on the side of it, if this is the case.

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That Cerberus even really exists is not public knowledge. Therefore, even if they had an emblem, nobody would recognize it.



Moreover, Matt is right, that's the symbol of their front company, Cord-Hislop.

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Cerberus is public knowledge and is even based on a ublic statement calling on the need for such an organization, 'A Cerbnerus to guard the Charon relay against alien tyranny' or some such. The Codex page goes into more detail, but yes, Cerberus is known across the galaxy..

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JudgeQwerty wrote...

Cerberus is public knowledge and is even based on a ublic statement calling on the need for such an organization, 'A Cerbnerus to guard the Charon relay against alien tyranny' or some such. The Codex page goes into more detail, but yes, Cerberus is known across the galaxy..


Perhaps the knowledge that they are now rogue is not public? They used to be part of the alliance, after all.

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JudgeQwerty wrote...

Cerberus is public knowledge and is even based on a ublic statement calling on the need for such an organization, 'A Cerbnerus to guard the Charon relay against alien tyranny' or some such. The Codex page goes into more detail, but yes, Cerberus is known across the galaxy..


That Cerberus might exist is known, but as far as most of the galaxy is concerned, they're just a myth, or a conspiracy theory like the Collectors.

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Matterialize wrote...

JudgeQwerty wrote...

Cerberus is public knowledge and is even based on a ublic statement calling on the need for such an organization, 'A Cerbnerus to guard the Charon relay against alien tyranny' or some such. The Codex page goes into more detail, but yes, Cerberus is known across the galaxy..


Perhaps the knowledge that they are now rogue is not public? They used to be part of the alliance, after all.


The Codex states that they were always an illegal terrorist organization. I suspect this is because the Alliance refuses to admit they were ever responsible for Cerberus. Its also possibly a retcon, but I like the propaganda idea better.

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Schneidend wrote...

JudgeQwerty wrote...

Cerberus is public knowledge and is even based on a ublic statement calling on the need for such an organization, 'A Cerbnerus to guard the Charon relay against alien tyranny' or some such. The Codex page goes into more detail, but yes, Cerberus is known across the galaxy..


That Cerberus might exist is known, but as far as most of the galaxy is concerned, they're just a myth, or a conspiracy theory like the Collectors.

Especially likely, since Cerberus is made up of task cells that don't have much interaction between each other. The only like that one could find between them would be TIM, and trying to use him as a basis of a theory? Yeah, no one's going to listen to you.

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They definitely used to be a section of the Alliance, kinda like MI6. Considering their involvement in ME2, that's too big of a plot point to retcon. Gotta be propaganda.

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Cerberus is acknowled as a public threat to alien and Alliance safety. The big mystery is A) who is the Illusive Man, B) How much power does he have? and C) What the heck is he up to?



Cerberus is certainly secretive, but not a secret.

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Cerberus is public knowledge, yes.

However, the only thing that is public is there is a group named Cerberus that is a splinter group from the Alliance that is classified as a terrorist organization. That's it.

The public has no idea that CHA is the front of Cerberus, that knowledge is pretty much reserved to Alliance and the Council. They like to keep things hush hush. If news got out that CHA was the front of Cerberus, the stockmarket would take a massive hit. Nobody wants that, so they keep it a secret.



So yes, Cerberus is public, but not entirely.

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It doesn't really matter if people know Cerberus exists or not.

Cerberus is clearly an organization that:

-Likes to keep its activities secret

-Isn't exactly well-liked.



Given that, why would you mark your vehicles, uniforms etc. with a symbol that can identify them as part of your organization.

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I have a theory is that they want to take credit for bringing back Shephard, the first human Spectre who saved the galaxy, and saving the human race. Its a propaganda war. 'Be like Shephard and join us if you want fight for humanity.'

Modifié par JudgeQwerty, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:08 .


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The explanation is quite simple: in ME1 Cerberus was just a minor thing, so it didn't need much attention. In ME2 it is ever-present and greatly tied to the protagonist, so they had to considerably expand its lore, and make all Cerberus-related stuff easy to identify (hence the logo).

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Druen wrote...

The explanation is quite simple: in ME1 Cerberus was just a minor thing, so it didn't need much attention. In ME2 it is ever-present and greatly tied to the protagonist, so they had to considerably expand its lore, and make all Cerberus-related stuff easy to identify (hence the logo).


Stop it.

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Here's a better question: how come no one does anything to the normandy in the citadel? is it a "private" spot cerberus own or what? It's kinfa hard to beleive that the Alliance would just ignore the fact that a terrorist ship is just sitting in a corner and with the logo on it, I doubt they let it even land with the higher security after the Geth attack.

I'm just going to assume Hacket or anderson said "request denied" or something like that.

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Druen wrote...

The explanation is quite simple: in ME1 Cerberus was just a minor thing, so it didn't need much attention. In ME2 it is ever-present and greatly tied to the protagonist, so they had to considerably expand its lore, and make all Cerberus-related stuff easy to identify (hence the logo).


Dude, what's with the thread necro?  The last post in this was a year ago.

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I'm just that cool.

And Zerox, it's not without reason that the Normandy docks at the Zakera compound, one of the most troubled and corrupt ones; everyone has too much on their hands to pay attention to Cerberus there, and bribes can smooth things out.

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Um, where does it say that Zakera Ward is one of the most troubled and corrupt wards? Every ward is going to have crime lords (which is probably why Thane was operating on the Citadel once-upon-a-time), and as far as Bailey taking bribes, it's less "Damn politicians don't pay us enough to do this job" and more "This makes me sick but if I go after him it'll make my job harder than it already is and the murder rate will spike". So, think "renegade" instead of "corrupt".

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Druen wrote...

I'm just that cool.


Yeah, 'cause its so cool to do things that'll get you banned. <_<

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