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[Mystranna Kelteel]

Uncle_Boog wrote...

I lost Jack to the bugs not exactly sure why. Had the Cerberus chick holding up the field thinking that could be it,you know the whole them not getting along thing. If anyone knows for sure how to get through without losing anyone I would be thankful for tips I don't want to lose her again (R.I.P. Jack).

The swarm death depends on who you pick to do the biotic barrier. Samara and Jack are who you want there because they will unleash a giant repellant wave at the end of the mission, pushing the swarms way back. Thane craps out and falls, and I'm assuming Miranda and Jacob would similarly fall. Samara and Jack are the most powerful biotics, so their wave is what saves the life there.

[kekvitirae]

I used Samara for the first fireteam and Mordin for the ventilation shaft. Mordin died, so I'm guessing Samara in fireteam = good, Mordin in the shafts = bad.

[Monglor]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Uncle_Boog wrote...

I lost Jack to the bugs not exactly sure why. Had the Cerberus chick holding up the field thinking that could be it,you know the whole them not getting along thing. If anyone knows for sure how to get through without losing anyone I would be thankful for tips I don't want to lose her again (R.I.P. Jack).

The swarm death depends on who you pick to do the biotic barrier. Samara and Jack are who you want there because they will unleash a giant repellant wave at the end of the mission, pushing the swarms way back. Thane craps out and falls, and I'm assuming Miranda and Jacob would similarly fall. Samara and Jack are the most powerful biotics, so their wave is what saves the life there.

Yeah, there's logic to every choice I think. I chose Garrus to lead the fire teams because he's lead teams before and nobody died on his watch. Jacob crapped out on me as my biotic barrier dude though and Thane wasn't up to shutting the door. You have to know who is strongest at what and play to that.

Modifié par Monglor, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:25 .

[Lukertin]

mdp310 wrote...

I had everyone survive all the way through, but then when Joker said "all survivors are on the ship" it turned out Mordin had randomly died at some point. So I went back and used him to kill the Reapernator.

I bet he dies of old age because he's like 50 yrs old and Salarians have a lifespan of 40!

[TheVulcanKid]

I made a seperate save where I didn't have my upgrades for the Normandy just to see the death scenes. In the ones I got:



Jack died in a console explosion, where Shepard shouts to get her to the med-bay and Miranda comments that it's too late to help her now.



The core exploded, and Legion tried to run from it. Unfortunately, he didn't make it out and was killed in the explosion. I don't remember the exact person who comments on him dying.



Thane died when a piece of debris (I believe it was) came through the wall right in front of him and slammed into his torso, pinning him to the wall. I believe Miranda at that point shouts, "We lost Thane!!!"

[mdp310]

I think Mordin might have gotten shot while I was at the final battle, I think I remember seeing someone in the background falling down.

[0Gabe0]

TheVulcanKid wrote...

I made a seperate save where I didn't have my upgrades for the Normandy just to see the death scenes. In the ones I got:

Jack died in a console explosion, where Shepard shouts to get her to the med-bay and Miranda comments that it's too late to help her now.

The core exploded, and Legion tried to run from it. Unfortunately, he didn't make it out and was killed in the explosion. I don't remember the exact person who comments on him dying.

Thane died when a piece of debris (I believe it was) came through the wall right in front of him and slammed into his torso, pinning him to the wall. I believe Miranda at that point shouts, "We lost Thane!!!"

this is exactly how mine went down..... i didnt upgrade at all

[spm1138]

Tali (I guess I fluffed her loyalty mission?) took a rocket to the face closing the door.
Samara (Loyal) led the first fireteam and did fine.
Samara (Loyal) was the biotic shield for the swarm.
Zaeed (Loyal) led the second fireteam and died.

I lost the crew because I had no idea I was on a timer.

Most stuff in ME doesn't have any sense of urgency to it despite what people say.

Modifié par spm1138, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:39 .

[Branclem]

spm1138 wrote...

Tali (I guess I fluffed her loyalty mission?) took a rocket to the face closing the door.
Samara (Loyal) led the first fireteam and did fine.
Samara (Loyal) was the biotic shield for the swarm.
Zaeed (Loyal) led the second fireteam and died.

I lost the crew because I had no idea I was on a timer.

Most stuff in ME doesn't have any sense of urgency to it despite what people say.

Tali died because you had Samara lead the fireteam.  You need to have Miranda, Jacob, or Garrus do it for the vent person to get out alive.

[Lukertin]

So I think it goes:



1. Jack/Legion/Thane can die in the fight between Normandy and Collector Ship

2. Tech specialist can die

3. Biotic specialist can die

4. 2nd Fireteam Leader can die

5. Escort/Crew can die

6. The team holding the Collectors back as you go kill the Human-Reaper can be wiped out (or Mordin dies?)

7. Your squadmates can die after the crash...and possibly Shepard



Has anyone gotten an ending where just Shepard survives?

[crimsontotem]

according to my friend, before he landed on the collector's base,

1) Thane got kiled by the pressure

2) Legion blew up

3) Jack was burned alive



after that... Tali was kindnapped by the collectors because Jacob was a whimp and Grunt died



whispering "it was a good battle".

[Xena_Shepard]

1) Jack was killed by a Oculus laser cutting through the hull

2) Thane was killed by a piece of hull slamming him against the wall

3) Mordin took a rocket in the face



My Shep actually took SuZe's death harder than I did (I didn't even romance her or anything).

Thane was meh.

I actually cried when Mordin got killed, it was so quick and dramatic, I just wanted my Shep to be more torn up about it than he was, I really loved Mordin.

Of course that was my first playthrough, I made it through the second playthrough with no casualties.

[Lyrandori]

I lost Mordin during my first (and only, so far) playthrough, he died during the very last effort at holding off the Collectors as me and two other teammates went on those moving platforms on our way to the boss. Although he died there I didn't actually see it occur, it was only shown after the boss was killed as the rest of the crew ran to the Normandy for escape, just before that part the camera went to ground-level looking at Mordin, dead on the ground with passing by Collectors trying to catch up to the rest of the crew on their way to the Normandy.



I was sad but proud at the same time that Mordin alone greatly helped to rest of the crew to make it alive, it was a valiant sacrifice. But so far I keep reading threads around that so much more of the crew can die, supposedly even Shepard can die, but I don't even want to assist to such a scenario, I'm glad enough that I only lost one guy in the whole mess. I did not escort the survivors however, and they died on their way back to the Normandy... bad decision I guess, my only regret however was to lose Chakwas in that bunch, the rest... I wasn't emotionally attached to any of them, and Kelly was a good friend but that's it.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Lukertin wrote...

3. Biotic specialist can die

Just a note, I've never seen the biotic specialist die. The biotic specialist causes one of your personal squadmates to die, but the specialist herself/himself actually survives.

[YooperLaw]

Had Zaeed lead the distraction team during Phase Two ... he bit the bullet but everyone else survived. Restarted and switched him with Garrus and all lived. Pretty straightforward.

[mdp310]

Lyrandori wrote...

I lost Mordin during my first (and only, so far) playthrough, he died during the very last effort at holding off the Collectors as me and two other teammates went on those moving platforms on our way to the boss. Although he died there I didn't actually see it occur, it was only shown after the boss was killed as the rest of the crew ran to the Normandy for escape, just before that part the camera went to ground-level looking at Mordin, dead on the ground with passing by Collectors trying to catch up to the rest of the crew on their way to the Normandy

This is what I had happen. I never actually saw Mordin die, I just saw everyone running away past his body at the end. Weird. Maybe because Mordin isn't REALLY a fighter, or because he's an old man by Salarian standards, Bioware made him die if you didn't use him to escort the survivors, or fight the Reapinator. (That's what I'm calling it now.)

[Ghosthammer54]

I didn't lose anyone on my first play-through



Send Legion into the pipes

I had Garrus lead both fire teams

Samara for the swarm area

And used Zaeed to walk the other crew members out



I had everyone at loyal, and all the ship upgrades

[Lukertin]

delete.

Modifié par Lukertin, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:52 .

[Lyrandori]

mdp310 wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

I lost Mordin during my first (and only, so far) playthrough, he died during the very last effort at holding off the Collectors as me and two other teammates went on those moving platforms on our way to the boss. Although he died there I didn't actually see it occur, it was only shown after the boss was killed as the rest of the crew ran to the Normandy for escape, just before that part the camera went to ground-level looking at Mordin, dead on the ground with passing by Collectors trying to catch up to the rest of the crew on their way to the Normandy

This is what I had happen. I never actually saw Mordin die, I just saw everyone running away past his body at the end. Weird. Maybe because Mordin isn't REALLY a fighter, or because he's an old man by Salarian standards, Bioware made him die if you didn't use him to escort the survivors, or fight the Reapinator. (That's what I'm calling it now.)

Yup, and I think that a good way to keep Mordin alive is by sending him back to the Normandy as an escort for the survivors, but that's just a theory, I'll try it on my second playthrough.

[infinite bias]

Thane took one in the face when he couldn't shut the doors



SuZe got carried away by swarms because Jacob was assigned to barrier.



Question, I know how to prevent the swarm death(stronger biotic) but how do I stop the initial pipe infiltrator from dying?

[Mystranna Kelteel]

infinite bias wrote...
Question, I know how to prevent the swarm death(stronger biotic) but how do I stop the initial pipe infiltrator from dying?

That depends on loyalty and who you choose. Loyal Tali and Loyal Legion seem to be the best choices.

[kekvitirae]

infinite bias wrote...
Question, I know how to prevent the swarm death(stronger biotic) but how do I stop the initial pipe infiltrator from dying?

Use Legion or Tali for the specialist, and Garrus/Jacob/Miranda for the fireteam.

[jgarcia916]

I only lost Grunt with the fire squad. My crew survived. I went to the collector ship right away. Also, I think I mught have figured it out. It's just my guess and i havent tried it yet. I think that the person that you send as a leader specialist and fire team, is affected by how they are leveled up. I sent Miranda as the leader of the team and Tali as the specialist. They both survived because they had their "Cerebus Opertive" Level 4 and Tali had her specialist Level 4. My grunt did not have the health one level all the way up.



If you look at the wording in the descriptions of powers, i think it makes sense who to use during the final missions. Just my opinion. Lets see if anyone can back it up.

[mdp310]

infinite bias wrote...

Thane took one in the face when he couldn't shut the doors

SuZe got carried away by swarms because Jacob was assigned to barrier.

Question, I know how to prevent the swarm death(stronger biotic) but how do I stop the initial pipe infiltrator from dying?

You need to have both a good squad leader (Garrus/Miranda/Jacob) and a good tech (Tali/Legion).

I can see why people would use Thane, it's a sneaky part, but it also says pretty blatantly that the most important thing is their tech expertise.

[crimsontotem]

Will choosing Jacob to lead the first fire team end up bad? because Jacob himself is a badass
as well.

Modifié par crimsontotem, 31 janvier 2010 - 07:03 .