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Suicide mission is... flawed.


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jkstexas2001 wrote...

Zaeed is a lose cannon and not command material - his loyalty mission proves that.


This hardly explains why it is he who dies as the squad leader and not the rest of the squad.

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That second segment they should have made it where he is successful regardless just to have him be different from the other teammates because that segment it would fit for him to be successful.

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Zaeed is a mercenary.  He has extensive combat experience.  I would assume that he has led others in the blue suns, or in military operations that he was involved with in the Terminus systems.  Zaeed should be well aware of the use of squad tactics I would think.

If his loyalty mission is completed in the paragon way, then Zaeed sheds his "do it alone" philosophy.  He embraces the importance of the "team".
 
I would choose Zaeed to lead a squad over Jacob.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 27 juin 2010 - 08:54 .


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shoulderfish wrote...

I'd prefer that over the type of person who could fail the mission because they're trying to keep everyone alive.


It's amazing to see how many people says those or similar facts so lightly (like in Overlord DLC, where some says David's sacrifice is worth it). I'd love to see them in a real life situation, where THEY must be the sacrifices, and see if they continue agreeing on all that.

Only those ones who are willing to be the sacrifices in the worst case scenario have the right to agree on the quote above without getting called hypocrits.

Modifié par Gladiador2, 27 juin 2010 - 08:45 .


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Jackal904 wrote...
I'd say Samara does. She's like 600 years old.

Samara says she's almost 1000.  Despite Miranda telling us she's an excellent choice, the game says otherwise: just like Zaeed.

The problem at this juncture is Miranda tells us that "experience = loyalty", so Samara should be the best choice.

Garrus... He reminds you very often of this too. We know really nothing of Zaeed's leading abilities. Sure he helped start the Blue Suns but that doesn't necessarily mean he can safely lead people. Garrus effectively lead his team. The only reason they died was because one of his teammates set him up.

No one is denying Garrus doesn't have experience.  2 years about.  Zaeed has over 20.  Zaeed and Garrus both have disloyalty/internal conflict stories.  Zaeed has several stories about his experiences.  (Notice he doesn't tell us boring day-in/day-out stories of him losing men/not losing men everyday.)  Garrus likes to calibrate guns.

I'm assuming you're referring to him surviving a gunshot to the head. Just because he survived a gunshot to the head doesn't mean he's an effective leader.

No, the poster was referring to Zaeed's story while attacking the Verrikan, which was one of Zaeed's suicide missions where his squad died, yet he survived.  This is a debateable point, since a) his team died, yet B) Zaeed has experience in suicide missions.  Would you want someone who suvived a suicide mission, but his team died?

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Like Miranda isn't wrong most of the time. Besides in the original 10 you only have knowledge of the leadership skills of Miranda and Garrus. Jacob was probably thrown in because he was a protagonist in a ME game.