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[Sblade]

Err you missed some mages stuff in this DLC....

[biomag]

I will play it tonight when I come home from a trip, but the reaction here is what I expected. People are unhappy. The whole thing became far too big. BioWare raised a lot of expectations the way they announced it, then they failed 3 times to release it and each time the expectations rose and now people realize it is nothing more than just about 1 hour of gameplay, a simply DLC and those were not mindblowing so far, just nice, but with a lot of bad taste (Warden's Keep is still just a bad joke).



I won't complain about the price or the content because I never expected too much from a DLC since I saw WK, but it was clear that the reaction on this board would be the way it is.

[Noviere]

mslc123 wrote...

Seems that every DLC has just been about warrior gear. All massive plate, nothing else. Seems like if you're not a warrior you get the shaft when it comes to armor, also not every warrior wants to wear massive plate either.

Good point -- I was pretty let down by this as well.

Sblade wrote...

Err you missed some mages stuff in this DLC....

There is only 1 mage item in RtO... and you can only get it if you skipped a certain quest in the first 2-3 hours of the game.

Modifié par Noviere, 31 janvier 2010 - 10:48 .

[Finiffa]

I liked it for the most part. But the thing I was disappointed in was the lack of conversation between Alistair and the PC about their mutual past in Ostagar. I think thats a missed opportunity...

[Mlai00]

I liked it, though the loot is definitely more appropriate for early-game. I'd say... go back to Ostagar right after Lothering. Definitely before going to Warden's Keep; the WK loot is better.

You do get a lot of coins in Ostagar, though.

I liked fighting all the new Darkspawn enemies, which is something absent in WK (new enemies). At least, I think they're new enemies; this is my first playthrough of DAO.

I hope there are more Shrieks in the vanilla game; RtO only had a few.

And there's a cool new sync kill on the Ogre who killed Cailan. (Not a spoiler; he's in the preview video.) Again, at least I think this sync kill is new. I consider that a pretty cinematic way to give you Duncan's swords.

I do have sympathy for King Cailan. He acted like an idiot in the early game, but through his letters uncovered in RtO, you can see he was actually serious about Ferelden's welfare.

[Rizbin]

Live and learn I guess. less then 30 minutes of pure hack and slash with sub par weapons and armor, and thats only if you use heavy armor and longswords, totally useless otherwise. There was a pair of light armor gloves that were "ok", but what player rogue isnt wearing heavy armor?

Modifié par Rizbin, 31 janvier 2010 - 11:12 .

[Kleon]

In my opinion disapointing in Return to Ostagar were unused oportunities, like more dialoge with Wynne and Alistair (like talk in the camp), I expected some memories of Wynne from battle, like what she was dooing and where, how she escaped. I guess they didnt have money for that.



Overall I liked RTO pretty much, it was emotionaly moving.

[Mordaedil]

What, there is a new DLC out?

[Mordaedil]

What, there is a new DLC out?

[BTA1]

I agree. Most pointless DLC I've played. I would be ashamed to charge people money for something that bad. You got a bunch of new equipment that is just old stuff recoloured and you killed a bunch of darkspawn. No story or anything. Soldier's Peak at least had a bit of effort put in it.

[Knal1991]

chiliztri wrote...

It was disappointing because I was expecting more party banter or conversations. When you went to the spot where you meet Alistair he should have said, "Hey, this is where we first met. Can't believe it feels like it was so long ago, look at how things turned out.". Certain spots should have little dialogue quips from Alistair and Wynne.

The gear, and the last battle was good. Felt really satisfying.

I agree with this, I do think it's an improvement, I tried to quicken the process and took an hour while wardens keep and stone prisoners was more expensive but shorter....they are going the right direction on points vs gameplay and quite  frankly I hope they keep it up... If the now just make a 3 hour one or something like that for double the price, ill be up for it....

[Querne]

Was also disappointed. Felt rushed through, the little taint magician appearing every 4 minutes to conjure some skeletons was some kind ridiculous for me, right like reviving the Ogre, just to let me kill him a second time.

Would prefer to pay more money but get more interesting content (like Shale or the Wardens Keep side quest).

Interesting content is, for me, new dialouge options, varying side quests (not like this chest/bag- horror), new party members or some interesting NPCs.



If there´s something I had really enough of in the basic game it´s KILLING DARKSPAWN and ARMOUR. Thank you very much.

[Abriael_CG]

biomag wrote...

I will play it tonight when I come home from a trip, but the reaction here is what I expected. People are unhappy.

Who are "people"? If you think it's a general sentment, that's one hell of a selective reading. Actually it seems to me that the ones "unhappy" about RTO are a vocal minority.

[wanderon]

I loved it. It's a perfect addition to the game that I will enjoy playing with every character I create providing many hours of entertainment so it's hardly a question of whether or not it's worth $5 - I thought it was excellent and have been favorably impressed with all the DLC thus far and looking forward to seeing more.



I definately support the whole DLC content model since I tend to replay my CRPGs with numerous characters and the DLC brings me professional additions to the game that fit seamlessly with the original and don't stray from the original games intent like community made content often does. It adds yet another facet to a great original game.

[HyperLimited]

I give it a 3/5. It was a fine and nifty addition to the game. Didn't like the reuse of the ruins from the Dalish Origin story though, but meh...

[WhyIsThisNecessary]

It was ok. Nothing spectacular. Worth £3.50.

[Sabriana]

Well, after reading and researching here and on other forums and boards, I've come to the conclusion that I'll pass on this one. Darkspawn, armor, no real dialogue/cutscenes, OOC NPC's - no thank you.



I'll use the saved euros to put toward buying the FO/FO2 doublepack in the bargain bin, I only have to add an euro or so for that. I can't find my old discs, bummer.

[gatekeeper780]

I liked it. I do agree that Alistair and Wynne should have had a bit more to say about things, and finding those certain two items should have came with a cutscene or at least some dialogue from Alistair considering how Ostagar affected him in the first place. That is the one thing that I found really odd.

[Edit]- Also the gift you find there should have also came  with some dialogue when you give it to the right person.

Modifié par gatekeeper780, 31 janvier 2010 - 02:51 .

[SinYang]

Er Warden's keep was very seperate from main plot, too much backstory in RTO would have spoiled the rest of the game too early/not to mention the expansion/sequel. Thats its weakness. WK had more freedom in story terms since it had nothing to do with the blight.



Stone prisoner, that was free cut content barely an extra DLC made later.

It was ok. Nothing spectacular. Worth £3.50.

As they said^

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

if I could get 5 dollars per DLC sold I would be a rich man now and be having satisfied customers that would be having alot of content to move around with.



As for the DLCs for Dragon age, they are rather tame and you are not really getting any value for you credits, even though it is just 5 dollars, it is to tame overall.

[Bunzan Cardinal]

thought wardens keep was better tbh. RTO was a big disapointment and i think the next thing i'll buy related to DAO is the expansion and be done with it. Now that i've found books more interesting then i ever have, i can find my fantasy story fix else where. Found it's a bit cheaper as well.

EDIT: also the letters you find in the DLC relating to the king ... is there any quest after that for those letters? Or is it just a little extra backstory for the battle, minus the cutscenes...

Modifié par Bunzan Cardinal, 31 janvier 2010 - 03:32 .

[Leniolas]

I loved RTO



the only thing i found dissapointing was the terrain , i hoped it would all take place downstairs on the battleground , but i did love the tower and tunnel part

and the bosslvl ogre was a bit easy (on normal at lvl 17)

[said a mom]

My opinions are pretty much in-line - ok gear for early level side quest (someday, my rogue will find some cool armor that doesn't look just like every other piece of light armor in game) a nice gift and a couple new type of darkspawn are fun. But really - choosing this topic for a DLC and not being prepared to create a significant emotional event is a fail.



I've think the reason Alistair and Wynne spend so much time having conversations about old age and not about Ostagar is that they have both gone senile and think we went for a nice picnic.

[Mlai00]

Yes, I also think I'm pretty much done, paying this price for this amount of content. Next DAO purchase for me will be the expansion.

I honestly enjoy all of the DLCs, and I'm not going to badmouth the production quality. But there's a limit to being nickel'd and dime'd for an hour's worth of dungeon crawl.

To make me buy more DLC, either the price has to drop 20%, or the content has to increase 50%.

[Phex]

 I for one will never look at Wynne the same way after getting out of Ostagar...