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No forced Liara romance for FemShep, please.


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Big_Belly_Bob

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Yeah seems odd that they're getting that close if you've used all bottom options but I remember reading something in this forum ages ago about someone wanting to know what the secret was to getting one of the girls (either one) so it's definitely possible not to get them... altho I'm not sure how they managed it since all you have to do is be nice.

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Well, i had several ME1 playthrough with pc version patched to latest version and never had one of this issues, but i played only malesheps.



First time i wanted to romance Ash, so when liara told me she has an interest, i just told her i wanted to be only a friend, nd she never bothered me again.



Second time i wanted to romance Liara 'cos i didn't like ash xenophobia, and when ashley talked to me about aliens i turned her down, and she never bothered me again but instead she started an interest in kaidan.



On third playthrough a wanted to try a single shep, and i turned down ash about aliens and told liara i wanted to be just friend, and noone showed up to confort me before Ilos.



So i guess you have to do your choices early in the game.



1) To avoid romance with ashley tuen her down when she speaks about aliens or when she speaks about her religious belief. She will stay friendly and you don't need to nuke her unless if you prefear kaidan



2) Avoid romance with liara is even simpler: she plainly tells you she's iterested, and you can plainly tell her you want to be just friends.



The opposite problem is worst: if you turn them down at any point, in my experience, there's no way to go back.

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The easiest way to avoid romancing Ashley or Liara is not to talk to them.



I ignored them both on my most recent ME1 playthrough and no one came to comfort me after the Normandy lockdown. I think I spoke with both of them once or twice, and picked neutral responses so as not to 'encourage' them.



It wasn't difficult - if you're willing to play through again...

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Hum that is strange maybe your friend accidentally romance her because this is what you have to do if you are paragon and nice.

Taritu wrote...

Liara explicitly asks you if you're interested. Say "I just want to be friends". If you do, she never mentions it again. It's really clear, unlike like with Ash.


If you are renegade is must easier to end the conversation with no trace of romance must early, maybe your friend should put the subtitles on, sometimes it helps and you can avoid mistakes like that.

But believe me Liara is pretty clear in the romance your friend must have chosen the wrong answer.

Modifié par Mihura, 14 février 2010 - 12:03 .


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Asheer_Khan

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In Liara's case it's necessary to say her that all what you want is friendship and when she will try anyway confirm that.



In case of Ashley romance trigger is "What about me?" question.

If you avoid this there is 99% chance that romance will not fire up and you will still be able to be friends.(but that need to be confirmed).

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I have a question about this whole romance thing. (Someone please respond!)

Let's say I want to try and go for a 100% codex in a finished file for import, but they say that the only way to get all the Asari entries, the Asari: Biology in particular, can only be received by pursuing a relationship with Liara. (Said to get it during the third conversation.) If I don't want a romance at all, but still want all codex entries, could I technically play all lovey-dovey with her during the first three talks then essentially be rude afterwards in hopes of breaking it off? Judging from what everyone is saying in this forum, though, it sounds like I'll probably be unsuccessful. Or is there still hope?

Modifié par Kurssaxx, 25 avril 2010 - 04:23 .


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Fraevar

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Basically your friend has  to not be nice to Liara - no top right options in any of the dialogue if she wants to avoid the romance. And warn your friend that this problem is even more pronounced in ME2.

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There is a bug with Liara's romance thread that exists in all versions of ME1, and is still not patched as of the 1.02 patch. This causes her to give the same responses in a certain dialog tree no matter which option you pick - so you get stuck with her, even though story-wise she's the better choice in romance partners over Ashley or Kaiden.

Theory: A simple reason for Ashley breaking up with you in ME2 is based on her religion.   Since she is Christian, coming back from the dead via the "Lazarus Project" is antithetical to her personal belief system.

Modifié par thejynxed, 25 avril 2010 - 12:42 .


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DarthCyclopsRLZ

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Got that problem too during my first playthrough earlier this winter. No means no, damnit.

Just started a ME1 playthrough this morning. Lot easier to just tell off both early on, lol.

I think you can kill the Ashley romance right after that chat with her sister. Second convo for Liara, right?

Modifié par DarthCyclopsRLZ, 25 avril 2010 - 04:17 .


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thejynxed wrote...

There is a bug with Liara's romance thread that exists in all versions of ME1, and is still not patched as of the 1.02 patch. This causes her to give the same responses in a certain dialog tree no matter which option you pick - so you get stuck with her, even though story-wise she's the better choice in romance partners over Ashley or Kaiden.

Theory: A simple reason for Ashley breaking up with you in ME2 is based on her religion.   Since she is Christian, coming back from the dead via the "Lazarus Project" is antithetical to her personal belief system.


That is subjective, and I completely disagree with it.

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Jedi Master of Orion

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It is subjective.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 26 avril 2010 - 05:51 .


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trickfred

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Ashley: There's an option to chew her out for being unprofessional, if I recall correctly, I think that will do it. (Not 100% sure though, since she gets Virmire'd every time :D )

Kaidan: When he asks about relationships, there's a 'none of your business' option. That killed it for me.

Liara: Easier to kill it as a femshep, pick the 'ew, but we're both women!' options, and the 'I just want to be friends' option as either gender.

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Noone has mentioned it so what I did when playing a female Adept was to pick up Liara last. Then I was pretty much stuck with kaiden since it was too late to start anything with liara. Then I left kaiden on Virmire. heh.



Another way to not have a romance is to never talk to any of the LI's I guess. A bit late for the OP, I know.

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What he said.

Modifié par LostInSanity, 29 avril 2010 - 10:01 .


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eternalnightmare13

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The only way I know is by NOT TALKING to either potential LI in the game. AT ALL. Outside of the main story cut scenes. Worked for me.

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thejynxed wrote...



Theory: A simple reason for Ashley breaking up with you in ME2 is based on her religion.   Since she is Christian, coming back from the dead via the "Lazarus Project" is antithetical to her personal belief system.


Uh, no. She ''breaks up'' with you because you're working with Cerebus.  She also references you being a traitor to the Alliance. 

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So wait.. if you're a single Shep in ME1, does Liara become your default picture on your desk in ME2?

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Epantiras

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I had my Femshep say no to Liara the first time she brought up the "I'm soooo attracted to you" subject, romance Kaidan *and* Virmire him. This way, nobody went to comfort Shepard during that scene and there was not picture in the frame in ME2.

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It's entirely too easy to ninja romance people in both games unless you're willing to be incredibly rude. Unfortunate really.

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Veritasinpersonam

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Femshep has needs you insensitive vorchas!

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___Polaris___ wrote...

I got same problem right now...only with Ashley and I have the same question!

Simple question is: Refusing sex means no romance and no cheating in ME2? If somebody will answer this, then I'll be greatfull too, couse I am stuck on with the game becouse of this right now.

Just because you had a romance in ME1 and decide to have one in ME2 doesn't necessarily mean you are cheating. As Shep says," I didn't want to open old wounds".  Basically Shep thought that because he/she was gone that the romance was over, and the reception you recieve on Harvest isn't what I would call a romantic reunion. Also when talking to Yeoman Chambers, Shep is asked if he still has strong feelings for the LI, you will have the option to say "What we had is in the past now" In my opinion this means the previous romance is over and there is nothing wrong with starting a new one. Enough rambling, anyway to avoid Liara from jumping your bones, simply choose all the renegade dialogue when talking to her.

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eternalnightmare13 wrote...

thejynxed wrote...



Theory: A simple reason for Ashley breaking up with you in ME2 is based on her religion.   Since she is Christian, coming back from the dead via the "Lazarus Project" is antithetical to her personal belief system.


Uh, no. She ''breaks up'' with you because you're working with Cerebus.  She also references you being a traitor to the Alliance. 

"I agree our judgement must be based on fact, not wild imaginings and reckless speculation".  In other words being Christian had nothing to do with it. I'm Christian and although someone is revived doesn't mean it contradicts everything I believe in. God has a plan for the universe, who's to say Shep's revival wasn't part of that. Also if you read the Bible, the name Lazarus can be found in the Gospel of John in which Jesus revives him four days after the death of Lazarus.  Anyway I'll save my sermon for church. Point being, Ash's faith had nothing to do with her decision.Posted Image

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Well Liara doesn't know how to socialize so she thinks it's ok to come on to you.



Screw that "complex, highly telepathic, hard to find" relationship

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This happened to me on my most recent ME1 playthrough. Renegade or neutral all the way with Liara - never showed a lick of interest. The only reason I ever chose neutral options is to be thorough with the codex (which I did with all teammates). I definitely got hit with the bug wherein you tell her no (renegade option) and the game thinks you said yes, and now I can't get rid of her. I'm about to go to Ilos, and I'm hoping there's some way I can fix this by the 2nd game. Don't want.

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Romance is forced, I had that problem on my first playthrough. I talked to Liara only a few times in the game, but was nice/neutral to her (unlike with Kaiden). Come Ilos and I keeping saying say no to her...

Well to cut a long story short, the romance continued into ME2 irregardless :S

Come to think of it, I think it's made it more interesting: Bioware have hinted that cheating on your love interest in the first game will have a small impact on the story in the ME3 :3 I just wonder who would win in a fight between Liara and Garrus...

Modifié par BirdieShepard, 18 septembre 2010 - 08:37 .