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[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Falmung wrote...

I wasn't loyal. After seeing how much my sweet Liara had changed I no longer wanted her. I went instead to the perfect genetic woman Miranda. I've found my true woman in the game. No problematic 1000 years.

Can't really be a problematic 1,000 years if you're only around for ~140 of them.

[skinnyjr]

Nope I wasnt. Jack is an intriguing character. I couldnt resist. I am working on a new ME1 playthrough with no LI though. I dont want anything to get messed up when ME3 rolls around

[ratzerman]

Yep, Liara sure has changed........ except, she really hasn't.

[MICHELLE7]

TeenZombie wrote...

Staying loyal to Kaidan on all my characters, and I'm happy to do so. I saw the romance scenes on YouTube, I'm not missing anything by skipping them on my own game.

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I've heard that a lot...that the you aren't missing a lot if you don't have the romance scenes. I saw a couple on youtube and they kinda fell flat. As far as I am concerned I think the ones in ME were better...more mature if you will(not just because there was nudity either). What I saw on youtube seemed to even be a step down from DAO.

Jacob was a Cerberus agent that I did not really trust, I go to talk to him on the Normandy just to get to know the crew and femShep gets a lean back seductive voice for almost any conversation you make with him being all **** like and it pissed me off so I pretty much said to myself, fine, this guy gets talked to when required and never any other time.

I'm glad someone said that. I thought I might just check out the dialog with Jacob to see if he gave any more information (had no intention of romancing him at all...can't stand him and his stupid saluting...what is he trying to do impress Shep with 'I used to be an Alliance soldier' bit...no doubt another plant placed there by TIM to allure Femshep away from Kaidan (who reperesents the Alliance) so Shep will become loyal to Cerberus(since Jacob is with Cerberus).

Anyhow when she gave that seductive crap...I hit reload real fast...it was a bunch of crap in my opinion. I don't want my Femshep acting like a ho unless I'm roleplayiong her that way...not that I would...my femshep will stay loyal to Kaidan on every playthrough. I get that kind of crap with Jacob and have to literally run fraps to catch any kind of emotion between Kaidan and Shep on Horizon(and yes Shep does have a little). 

[mamba 12]

Let's see, Romanced Miranda, "had dinner" with Kelly, and got a kiss from Gianna.



So, no i wasn't loyal to Liara. Definitely plan to have another playthrough for loyalty's sake.

[monika26]

My female Shepard was loyal to Liara. Although I did have dinner with Kelly...



My male Shepard is going to "cheat" on Liara. It's not really cheating though? Romancing her was an accident. On the the way to Ilos, I turned her down. We didn't even kiss! All we did was say we "liked" each other. So no, I don't think that's cheating. Plus I've been dead for two years!

[BlackwindTheCommander]

I couldn't, Liara changed way too much. I know she is supposed to be doing it for me, but shes become everything I worked against back in the first game. Hell shes even working for the Shadow Broker! The Shadow Broker hates me! (The feeling is mutual by the way.)



Miranda however, I was able to turn to break past her cold exterior to find some good in her. Hell she even went against the man who saved her from being a tool for others use for me.

[MICHELLE7]

ShadowWolf_Kell wrote...

And as far as him trying to break your ties to your old group...  doesn't wash.  He sends you to get Tali, Garrus, to deal with Wrex, etc.

He isn't trying to break your old ties with your old group...he's trying to break your ties with the Alliance. The Alliance and Cerberus are enemies. Kaidan/Ash are Alliance. Tali, Garrus, Wrex are not. 

[ratzerman]

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I couldn't, Liara changed way too much. I know she is supposed to be doing it for me, but shes become everything I worked against back in the first game. Hell shes even working for the Shadow Broker! The Shadow Broker hates me! (The feeling is mutual by the way.).

She doesn't work for the Shadow Broker.... she's trying to find the Shadow Broker so she can kill him.

[Chimerical Man]

First playthrough, I was loyal. Liara was my LI in the first game, and while Tali was sorely tempting, I plan to save her for the second playthrough, in which I'll be starting from Mass Effect 1 and hopefully going through to ME3 (as an adept!). I just know that there will be dire conscequences to infidelity in the third game. Bioware is good at that sort of thing. Besides, the vanguard Shepard with which I ran ME2 this first time is more naturally suited to Liara. The adept will have different thoughts.

Honestly though, if I had known in the first game that Tali's option would open up later, I would have stayed away from Liara. Williams and Liara seem too...rushed. Williams is slightly more understandable, but I don't particularly like her; Liara is almost throwing herself on you after a few weeks on the ship with you. Tali (and Garrus, for women) is a bit more believable, considering the time that she's known you.

Oh, and I haven't played Renegade yet, but I'll be swinging quite a bit with that one, I expect.

Modifié par Chimerical Man, 01 février 2010 - 01:57 .

[MICHELLE7]

ratzerman wrote...

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I couldn't, Liara changed way too much. I know she is supposed to be doing it for me, but shes become everything I worked against back in the first game. Hell shes even working for the Shadow Broker! The Shadow Broker hates me! (The feeling is mutual by the way.).

She doesn't work for the Shadow Broker.... she's trying to find the Shadow Broker so she can kill him.

Getting kind of frustrating isn't it.

[SirRengeti]

ratzerman wrote...

She doesn't work for the Shadow Broker.... she's trying to find the Shadow Broker so she can kill him.

In fact the problem is the way she wants to achieve this goal. This just contraticts so much with her former character and like someone said earlier in this thread "lost innocence won't come back".

Just Remember her dialogue about her feelings about Saren and revenge for her mother.

[ratzerman]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I couldn't, Liara changed way too much. I know she is supposed to be doing it for me, but shes become everything I worked against back in the first game. Hell shes even working for the Shadow Broker! The Shadow Broker hates me! (The feeling is mutual by the way.).

She doesn't work for the Shadow Broker.... she's trying to find the Shadow Broker so she can kill him.

Getting kind of frustrating isn't it.

Extremely...... I can't believe that this is what the next two years are going to be like.

[Annora]

I like the direction liara's character took. She was such a ****ing doormat in the first game. You could be incredibly mean to her, and still get her to sleep with you. No backbone at all. Now she's pretty much a badass, that's a good thing.

[POed Paladin]

I had to stay loyal with my play through. Though in all honesty there wasn't any great options from RPing my Shepard's point of view. Spent a pretty big chunk of ME1 blowing Cerberus projects to hell so I didn't trust Miranda at all, since unlike Jacob, she seemed to be fixated on Cerberus and acted like they could do no wrong. So that combined with the fact that she was strutting around in second skin (loved the line that one of the mercs throw at her in her loyal quest about it) and had her hair done up, made me more suspicious than anything else so I just wrote her off TIM's honey pot trap. Likewise with Kelly, again a Cerberus agent with little to no doubts about their methods who is positioned close to me and an admitted psychologist, all I saw again was enemy intel. As for Jack, she was completely (though understandably so) bat**** insane and when she did let the act drop, she was more damaged goods than I'd ever want to deal with so I just kept the "Front Towards Enemy" mentality. Tali though, if she wasn't Quarian, might be a someone my Shepard might've gotten close to. But they'd been through a lot together already and were friends so I wasn't ready to risk her death just so we could knock boots. Besides, if the option is available in ME3 I'd like to see her installed in the open admiral billet in the Migrant Fleet (since hopefully my forced cooperation between her and Legion sticks and they can work together in ME3).



Granted I did leave Horizon with a very bitter taste in my throat when Ash went ballistic (especially since the game gives crap for rebuttals/explanations to her lines) after I went down every conversation tree asking about her and my first move once the map opened to was the Citadel to try to track her down. Though I did catch the email from her after the mission and it gave me some amount of hope. So I just decided that as far as RP goes, there were more off-camera e-mails between the two....that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Hepzi3]

Imported my ME1 file with my beastly soldier. First time, I romanced Tali because I thought Miranda was boring and Jack was insane. ( Ashley was my ME1 Love Interest and I like her quite a bit as a character. John Shepard is a warm blooded soldier though, And he needs some loving when Ashley basically rages at him for all the right reasons.)



2nd playthrough with same file, Romancing Miranda and finding her to be interesting and somewhat refreshing. She isnt " Cerberus ****" like Jack thinks she is.



3rd playthrough, I am going to romance Jack on Insanity with a Sentinel or Vanguard without my ME1 file.



4th playthrough, I am going to stay loyal. I planned this out perfectly. First playthrough, Tali on Veteran. 2nd playthrough, Miranda on Hard Core. 3rd playthrough, Jack on Insanity.



4th playthrough is likely going to be a Casual, run through and keep Ash Loyal thing though.

[MICHELLE7]

ratzerman wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I couldn't, Liara changed way too much. I know she is supposed to be doing it for me, but shes become everything I worked against back in the first game. Hell shes even working for the Shadow Broker! The Shadow Broker hates me! (The feeling is mutual by the way.).

She doesn't work for the Shadow Broker.... she's trying to find the Shadow Broker so she can kill him.

Getting kind of frustrating isn't it.

Extremely...... I can't believe that this is what the next two years are going to be like.

Half of the comments are from people who haven't done Liara's quest or read Kaidan/Ash's email or followed up by talking to Kelly,Joker,or Anderson. They're just going on first impressions and emotions and jumping to conclusions and not investigating further in the story to find out the truth. If they don't find those things on another play through you'll probably need to wear your helmet because the next two years it'll feel like you're banging your head against the wall.

[SirRengeti]

@Michelle7: I bet most of them are just searching for excuses for cheating. At least I do ^^. If I had heard Liaras reasons I haven't cheated her (even if Garrus is a more likeable Character (personal opinion) but here I need a new char). So I'm forced to play ME2 again just to "revise" my decision. With cheating it don't feel right. It is not "my" Shepard I created
Nice move to hide this important bit so well.

Modifié par SirRengeti, 01 février 2010 - 02:18 .

[MICHELLE7]

SirRengeti wrote...

@Michelle7: I bet most of them are just searching for excuses for cheating. At least I do ^^. If I had heard Liaras reasons I haven't cheated her (even if Garrus is a more likeable Character (personal opinion) but here I need a new char). So I'm forced to play ME2 again just to "revise" my decision. With cheating it don't feel right. It is not "my" Shepard I created
Nice move to hide this important bit so well.

Nice that someone can honestly admit that.

[Januskrug]

I remained faithful. While my male paragon shepard was upset at their reunion argument, the letter she sent a while afterwards reminded him that while she does have a temper, she does think things through later. Part of her charm.

[stormrain]

I was planning to, I really was.

But I was so hell bent on becoming good friends with Jack that I didn't realize choosing the nuetral choice (when she confronts you about having feelings for her) still activated the romance until it was to late (I had already shut down the Miranda and Tali romances earlier).

So, right before I went gun ho through the Omega 4 Relay, I said "Screw it, I want that acheivement" and did her last 'confession' conversation and got the love scene a little bit later.

I know what to avoid now, so second playthrough my Shepard is staying faithful to Liara (But Tali is still too cute and tempting for her own good. Curse you Liz Sroka and your awesome voice acting!).

ratzerman wrote...

Yep, Liara sure has changed........ except, she really hasn't.

QFT

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 01 février 2010 - 03:19 .

[I Vigil I]

My first playthrough i didnt have to worry about it because i didnt romance.  Im on my second playthrough and im cheating because im renegade i can do whatever i want lol.

[I Vigil I]

I have to agree with the Tali comment.
She is my fave character in the franchise and i just cant get enough of her.
sorry bout double post

Modifié par I Vigil I, 01 février 2010 - 03:22 .

[Lyrandori]

In my first playthrough, yes, but due to ignorance, because I did not actually know that we could "betray" with Kelly. The thing is my first playthrough was done with a ME1 saved game import of a female Shepard who fell in love with Liara. In ME2 Liara isn't a love option, which I also ignored (I really stayed away from ME2's previews and reviews and teasers and trailers before playing it, I wasn't even aware that Shepard was presumed dead in the first place nor that the Normandy would be damaged or destroyed). So when I got the answer that Liara couldn't nor wouldn't want anything with me in ME2 I simply resumed on my missions completely ignoring the other options, and ME2 does not have lesbian relationship with the party members as far as I know, it's only straight stuff in ME2 (I mean only with party members excluding Kelly).



So I finished the game like that, not even knowing that Kelly was a possible "side kick" in the "meantime" until Liara comes back full force in ME3. So, yeah, the answer is yes, my first playthrough went on without betrayal. If I knew about Kelly however... it might have changed, because I play role a lot, and I thought that my Shepard really needed at least some... more... let's say "intimacy" and warmth between all those darker moments in her life. In my second playthrough I'll try to go with Kelly, and my third playthrough I might go with Jack (with a male Shepard that is).

[delesar]

I would be loyal to Liara if I knew one of two things.



A: She's a squad mate in ME3.



B: She mentions settling down with you in one of the last conversations in ME, possibly very, very close contact at multiple times in ME3.



Otherwise I... Just don't know, I haven't strayed off yet, but the new LIs have exceptional depth to them, unlike what they did with the ME1 LIs.