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[Maria Caliban]

I don't recall Leliana being unhappy with the decision. Only +2 from Morrigan. I then has a discussion with Leliana about shoes, which netted me another +2.



Anyways, you don't trick the knights. They're holy symbols like the priests wear, but no one says they're magical or will protect them from harm.

[Wissenschaft]

I then has a discussion with Leliana about shoes

is that with a female PC? if so, lol. I suppose medieval women were not that different to the modern world.

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 05 novembre 2009 - 10:37 .

[Seagloom]

There is a small penalty if you go that route with the knights. I can't remember the exact amount Leliana's approval drops. Slight though, like -2, -1.

Modifié par Seagloom, 05 novembre 2009 - 10:39 .

[Twitchmonkey]

Wissenschaft wrote...

Morrigan is not the leader for a reason. She is not thinking about the good of the party and what gives you the best chance for victory. Shes selfish, remember.

Sure, but it seems to me that doing difficult and in doing so making your life more difficult is not the selfish decision. Selfishness is doing whatever it takes to benefit yourself. Having weakened backup is going to make everyone's life harder, including her own. Perhaps she just doesn't have the ability or desire to reason on that level, she does come off as being a bit childish, maybe that is the aspect of her character that is not being considered. She's like a child who you're trying to tell to wear their seatbelt so they don't go flying through the windshield, but they just don't want to because seatbelts are stupid.

[Maria Caliban]

Morrigan does strike me as childish.

Wissenschaft wrote...

I then has a discussion with Leliana about shoes

is that with a female PC? if so, lol. I suppose medieval women were not that different to the modern world.

Leliana: blah, blah, blah Orlesian pretty shoes! blah, blah, blah ribbons and embroidery blah, blah, blah Ferelden ugly shoes

PC: *smiles and nods*



I like that after I defended Ferelden footwear as comfortable and useful, she later complimented me on my practical hairstyle. I wonder what she would have said if I were bald?

[Nudo Judo]

I haven't had too much trouble with Morrigan.  I've seen her whine a few times about what I've done, but that didn't always correlate into a drop in approval... that I saw.  There was no pop-up or anything saying -5 approval, but I didn't check the character screen.

The thing to remember with her is that she had an overbearing, condescending mother who probably makes Morrigan feel worthless, and as a result she tries to bring everyone else down to her level.  The same with the charity stuff.  Her mother never gave HER gifts, why should anyone else get presents?  And that probably makes her incredibly needy, in some sense. 

I finally figured out Sten and find him to be adorable now.   Especially when he revealed that the only thing he likes about Ferelden are cookies.

[Ub3r_]

i keep Morrigan Happy with gifts and dialogue in camp, outside of camp i couldnt give a **** what she thinks

[Verhalas]

I must be very evil, I gave her every gift I have found so far, always talk to her and get +6 to +11 on her everytime and already "bedded" her in camp and have only been playing a little the past two days. I find her VERY attractive in how she acts, I like the sarcasm and how she warms up to you if you are nice to her, very much like my, well, wife =)

[GhostMatter]

I loved her the second I saw her. First time, I made it to camp, I kissed her and not 10 hours into the game, had a romance(not long after the kiss). 'tis was easy too. I love her carefree attitude and although I don't agree with everything, I find her very refreshing.
Just reload for some story decisions where she doesn't approve and remove her from your party although I didn't even need that. I think I gave her gifts and took the good choices when speaking with her. Reloading is the key.

Modifié par GhostMatter, 06 novembre 2009 - 04:03 .

[Archfiend]

she is very practical i think in a "evil" sense of the word. she grew up in the wilds where survival of the fittest is key. she is not big on helping others because in her mind they should do it themselves, taking her into the mage tower was a mistake tho   if they can't help themselves then they deserve whatever they get is her feelings about the matter.

[Maria Caliban]

It seems as though getting friendly with her is much easier for a male PC.

[th3warr1or]

Sten is awesome! Don't be nice to him, and he'll respect you for that. Also, once you get friendly with him, he'll be much more open. During one of his "Side quests", the way he tells someone "It's MINE" is incredibly badass.

[Silensfurtim]

[1Parmenides]

She was a whinny brat at redcliffe, but I don't remember too much troubles elsewhere. I like her better if I let her stay at the tents for redcliffe.

[Wintermist]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of Morrigan either, she's just way too awkward and unrealiable to have around you.

[marshalleck]

If you don't like Morrigan nagging you, stop being such a hopeless bunch of goody two-shoes. :innocent:

Modifié par marshalleck, 27 novembre 2009 - 06:54 .

[MassEffect762]

Morrigan needs some damn sense smacked into her, she is so F-ing fail.



She's easy though, sweet talk in camp and throw some shiny gifts to counter her retarded outlook of the obvious and you should be fine.

[Armiece]

Personally, I found her to be an immature twit who needed to get her pedestal kicked out from under her a couple of times. She got thrown in camp at the nearest opportunity, and stays there.



I'm also rather bemused by the fact that while there's a decent amount of complaining on these forums about Alistair being whiny...in my gameplay experience, Morrigan was far, far more likely to complain. I guess boobs let you get away with anything.

[marshalleck]

Oh yes, ye olde "you just like the character because she has boobs" argument.

Allow me to trot out the "she's obviously the most well-written character in the game because no other character in DAO has inspired hundred of pages of threads of love and hate" argument in response!

Modifié par marshalleck, 27 novembre 2009 - 07:36 .

[MassEffect762]

Armiece wrote...

Personally, I found her to be an immature twit who needed to get her pedestal kicked out from under her a couple of times. She got thrown in camp at the nearest opportunity, and stays there.

I'm also rather bemused by the fact that while there's a decent amount of complaining on these forums about Alistair being whiny...in my gameplay experience, Morrigan was far, far more likely to complain. I guess boobs let you get away with anything.

Alistair was solid in my opinion, just enough of the "good guy" without appearing to be Kaiden.

As a dude I thought I was turning gay chatting with him. LOL

[Majspuffen]

I dont like Morrigan either. She's rude to almost everyone. If it were up to me, I'd scheme with Alistair and Leliana and pull pranks on Morrigan until she decided to leave for herself. Shame you can't do that in game

[MassEffect762]

marshalleck wrote...

Oh yes, ye olde "you just like the character because she has boobs" argument.

Allow me to trot out the "she's obviously the most well-written character in the game because no other character in DAO has inspired hundred of pages of threads of love and hate" argument in response!

It's not that shes THAT great a character, more the fact that no one likes cliffhangers UNLESS they are kick arse, morrigans ending is a kick in the nuts.(however touching it might be)

[marshalleck]

MassEffect762 wrote...

morrigans ending is a kick in the nuts.(however touching it might be)

Yep, but sometimes that's life for ya.

Now all Bioware need to do is make a major Paragon/good archetype choice lead to complete personal disaster in one of their games and balance will finally be restored.

[Faerell Gustani]

I found Morrigan easy to understand. She's highly pragmatic in the majority of cases.



At Redcliffe, kill the kid. Seriously, it's the most direct solution and the most logical.

Mage's Circle, you know the Templars are right. You can't tell who's become a Bloodmage, and blood magic is really dangerous. Morrigan understands that, and she has no respect for people she feels to be "spineless" aka all Circle Mages who subject themselves to these rules and regulations...to top it off, even with all of these rules and regulations she's got a better track record than the circle. I mean, she's an Apostate and she's no blood mage nor abomination, look at the Circle...clearly, rules and regulations do you so much good. The evidence is there.



In many cases I found Morrigan's point of view to be very pertinent, and were this not a heroic fantasy game where you can hope for the best and get what you hoped for, I would be doing almost exactly what Morrigan suggests on more than one occasion. Her approach is usually the most pragmatic one. The only regret about that she's not "right" more often. She should be right, you should just kill Connor, but no, there's an esoteric work around that should be to far/time consuming and Redcliffe stands still in time while you dally around and quest for the templars and mages. That was really lame. When I went off and did the "heroic" thing, I was really hoping to come back to have seen all of Redcliffe decimated by Connor in the days/weeks my character was probably absent trying to deal with the Circle.

[marshalleck]

Faerell Gustani wrote...
 She should be right, you should just kill Connor, but no, there's an esoteric work around that should be to far/time consuming and Redcliffe stands still in time while you dally around and quest for the templars and mages. That was really lame. When I went off and did the "heroic" thing, I was really hoping to come back to have seen all of Redcliffe decimated by Connor in the days/weeks my character was probably absent trying to deal with the Circle.

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

They won't do that though, because the paragons will cry that they couldn't have a perfect solution for every single situation.

DAO is great but Bioware just put too many 'easy outs' in their games.

Modifié par marshalleck, 27 novembre 2009 - 07:49 .