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[Behindyounow]

I hate that cow. Its bad enough not being able to kill Morrigan, but is it possible to kill her royal *****yness?

At least you can kill Ser Cauthrien.

[LadyVaJedi]

I wish it was possible. She attempts to kill us. At least let us be able to throw into the Mt. Doom.

[Solica]

In my mind my first PC asked Zevran to pay a debt... And Anora dies mysteriously in the tower where Alistair put her.

As long as some sequel doesn't refute that, I suppose it works.

[DPSSOC]

LadyVaJedi wrote...

I wish it was possible. She attempts to kill us. At least let us be able to throw into the Mt. Doom.

When does this happen?  I mean I wish I could kill her too but that's because since I made Alistair king she's a threat to his rule and could fan the fires of rebellion.

[Behindyounow]

You cant kill her then? Damn. Killing her or Morrigan (or both) would make my game feel more complete somehow.

[DJ0000]

You can't kill her personally but you can get her killed with Alistair hardened and crowned King.

[RobinMichelleB]

DPSSOC, I think that what is being referred to is Anora's nice, oh, but I'm not with these Wardens moment when you are getting her out of Howe's estate. I was REALLY angry at her, even though I made her queen anyway so Alistair and my female mage could be together. This time, though, my female noble is going to be queen and be really mean to Anora in return.

[Behindyounow]

DJ0000 wrote...

You can't kill her personally but you can get her killed with Alistair hardened and crowned King.

You can?! Awesome.

Killing her personally would've been nice, but you cant have everything.

[rayvioletta]

DJ0000 wrote...

You can't kill her personally but you can get her killed with Alistair hardened and crowned King.

not in my experience, he orders her to be locked up and she's heir in case he dies in the final battle, even if he is hardened

[Creature 1]

Solica wrote...

In my mind my first PC asked Zevran to pay a debt... And Anora dies mysteriously in the tower where Alistair put her.
As long as some sequel doesn't refute that, I suppose it works.

QFT. 

[DPSSOC]

RobinMichelleB wrote...

DPSSOC, I think that what is being referred to is Anora's nice, oh, but I'm not with these Wardens moment when you are getting her out of Howe's estate. I was REALLY angry at her, even though I made her queen anyway so Alistair and my female mage could be together. This time, though, my female noble is going to be queen and be really mean to Anora in return.

Oh you mean the moment where she's in disguise and sensibly asks you to STFU so she can sneak away rather than being apprehended by Loghain's people and taken to her father where she'll be unable to help you stop him or Howe's people who will kill her and she'll be unable to help you.  That's the moment you're talking about.

That scene actually reminded me of a movie where an undercover cop had to shoot his partner because he was at risk of having his cover blown.  Anora's only hope of getting away and being able to help you is to ensure she is not associated with you, she can clear up the kidnapping misunderstanding later but only if she can avoid capture.

[RobinMichelleB]

DPSSOC wrote...

RobinMichelleB wrote...

DPSSOC, I think that what is being referred to is Anora's nice, oh, but I'm not with these Wardens moment when you are getting her out of Howe's estate. I was REALLY angry at her, even though I made her queen anyway so Alistair and my female mage could be together. This time, though, my female noble is going to be queen and be really mean to Anora in return.

Oh you mean the moment where she's in disguise and sensibly asks you to STFU so she can sneak away rather than being apprehended by Loghain's people and taken to her father where she'll be unable to help you stop him or Howe's people who will kill her and she'll be unable to help you.  That's the moment you're talking about.

That scene actually reminded me of a movie where an undercover cop had to shoot his partner because he was at risk of having his cover blown.  Anora's only hope of getting away and being able to help you is to ensure she is not associated with you, she can clear up the kidnapping misunderstanding later but only if she can avoid capture.

No need to be sarcastic about it. In my opinion, she shouldn't have asked for help if she wasn't willing to risk anything, but I appreciate that there can be different character RP differences regarding this decision.

[thegoldfinch]

DPSSOC wrote..

Oh you mean the moment where she's in disguise and sensibly asks you to STFU so she can sneak away rather than being apprehended by Loghain's people and taken to her father where she'll be unable to help you stop him or Howe's people who will kill her and she'll be unable to help you.  That's the moment you're talking about.

That scene actually reminded me of a movie where an undercover cop had to shoot his partner because he was at risk of having his cover blown.  Anora's only hope of getting away and being able to help you is to ensure she is not associated with you, she can clear up the kidnapping misunderstanding later but only if she can avoid capture.

Exactly my thoughts  whenever I first played through. Yeah, it was kinda like B****WHAT? at first, but then I realized why she must have had to do what she did and it was all cool. She was a good queen in the end, anyway.

Am I the only person who doesn't mind/kinda likes Anora's character? Just curious.

Modifié par pixieface, 31 janvier 2010 - 08:27 .

[Monica21]

pixieface wrote...
Exactly my thoughts  whenever I first played through. Yeah, it was kinda like B****WHAT? at first, but then I realized why she must have had to do what she did and it was all cool. She was a good queen in the end, anyway.

Am I the only person who doesn't mind/kinda likes Anora's character? Just curious.

You're not the only one. I like her actually. I think if/when I get around to playing a male PC I'll marry her and rule with her. She's ready to rule, is capable, and wants to. She's knows the ins and outs of court politics and I like that about her. I wouldn't say she has the warmest personality, but then again the PC doesn't really get much of a chance to know her aside from trying to put a ruler on the throne.

[beelzeybob]

I find Anora a respectable person as well; if you don't betray her, she won't betray you. Fair.



But I usually find it hard to trust her over Alistair as he has been my buddy from the beginning and I just can't shake off that I feel Anora is just putting up an act.

[DPSSOC]

RobinMichelleB wrote...

No need to be sarcastic about it. In my opinion, she shouldn't have asked for help if she wasn't willing to risk anything, but I appreciate that there can be different character RP differences regarding this decision.

There's never a need to be sarcastic but I enjoy it so I usually am.  Now as for risk Anora was willing to risk everything, if you failed to stop her father she signed her own death warrant openly supporting you in the Landsmeet, but exposing herself then wouldn't have gained either of you anything.

Now for the record I hate Anora, I killed a brilliant general and put an incompetent rube on the throne just to keep her from having any power.  However as much as I hate her and as much as I would love to follow up her father's execution with her own I understand why she couldn't openly stand with you until she was safely away from her father's or Howe's men.

[Monica21]

13eelzebub wrote...

I find Anora a respectable person as well; if you don't betray her, she won't betray you. Fair.

But I usually find it hard to trust her over Alistair as he has been my buddy from the beginning and I just can't shake off that I feel Anora is just putting up an act.

I'm not sure how much of an act it is. If it were a job interview she'd get hired hands down. The only claim Alistair has is blood, and even that's shaky considering his bastard status. It's obviously an open secret, but even Ser Cautherian mentions (not without motive) that if Alistair were really an heir he wouldn't have to barge into the Landsmeet.

[thegoldfinch]

Monica - Yes, that was her biggest selling point for me. I loved that she was ready to rule from the get-go so there would be no uneasy downtime with learning how to be a politician, what everyone's views are on whatever matters, who to trust or not to trust, ect, as there would be with Alistair.

The Therin bloodline may be symbolic in meaning, but it sure isn't practical.

That, and I always figured Alistair would end up just like Cailan. Always bored, wanting to be on the front lines with the soldiers, and generally disliking his lot in life. He might even end up with another Howe to guide him which I don't even want to think about.

13eelzebub wrote...

I find Anora a respectable person as well; if you don't betray her, she won't betray you. Fair.

But I usually find it hard to trust her over Alistair as he has been my buddy from the beginning and I just can't shake off that I feel Anora is just putting up an act.

Yeah, it was difficult to trust her. Playing as a non-noble Warden romancing Alistair was especially difficult and you almost end up praying that Anora is your one way out.

Modifié par pixieface, 31 janvier 2010 - 08:51 .

[Thor Rand Al]

RobinMichelleB wrote...

DPSSOC, I think that what is being referred to is Anora's nice, oh, but I'm not with these Wardens moment when you are getting her out of Howe's estate. I was REALLY angry at her, even though I made her queen anyway so Alistair and my female mage could be together. This time, though, my female noble is going to be queen and be really mean to Anora in return.

Thats not the only time she backstabs you though... I went ahead n let the gaurds take me n when I got out of jail n went bk to Eamon she asked me to talk to her alone... I went ahead n did it n basically came right out n told her I was gonna support Alistair... I did a couple of the noble quests n when the landsmeet happened out comes Anora accusing me of making false statements about Loghain, well because I did do a few of the nobles quests the joke was on her, they all supported me except that idiot who never does lol n I so wanted to go up to Anora slap her n say, "Thanks for backstabbing me b**ch, looks like you're about to lose your throne."  N I didn't even let daddy live, I then made Alistair King n that was the best satisfaction I've ever had when dealing with her lmao... I know that was mean but not like she didn't deserve it.

[Gracknug]

All this Anora hate . Atleast in my game she will finaly bring Ferelden into the league of civilized nations (With myself by her side ofcourse).

[Thor Rand Al]

Gracknug wrote...

All this Anora hate . Atleast in my game she will finaly bring Ferelden into the league of civilized nations (With myself by her side ofcourse).

Only good thing about Anora is if your playing a HNM n you can marry her lol

[Gracknug]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Gracknug wrote...

All this Anora hate . Atleast in my game she will finaly bring Ferelden into the league of civilized nations (With myself by her side ofcourse).

Only good thing about Anora is if your playing a HNM n you can marry her lol

I dont know, i mean i think she's quite a good choise otherwise to. I mean ofcourse she'll backstab you if you dont choose her as the ruler, she is a politician afterall. 

Picking her is like picking Bhelen in Orzammar, might be a bastard but is still the best choise if you want progress for Ferelden.

Modifié par Gracknug, 01 février 2010 - 08:57 .

[Thor Rand Al]

Personally Alistair is a better ruler than Anora... I see Alistair as mingling with the people of Ferelden, actually going n getting involved if there's a problem, n taking care of it himself if he can. Anora strikes me as the kind of person who'd make someone else go n see what the problem is n letting them take care of it... Alistair cares about people in general to where Anora's I don't see that... Like the Alienage, would Anora even walk in there... She wouldn't be caught dead in a place like that to where Alistair would, ya he'd make a wise-crack but that's Alistair for you lol but he'd still do it because it's the right thing to do... he tries to do the right thing

[Gracknug]

Sure Alistair might be a "King of the common people" but would that truly help their lot in life? Anora would develop Ferelden's economy, and it's infrastucture making it easier for the common folk to improve their lives. Gold is needed to build new things, and no matter how nice and cuddly Alistair is it would not bring in new gold to the nation.



Besides, who cares about the Alienage? It's just filled with elves anyway.

[Sabriana]

Anora does get treated badly most of the time. I don't mind her, truly. My PC had the opportunity to talk with her and ask her questions, and she ended up feeling sorry for Anora.

As for the betrayals, she does what she has to do in her mind. The one at Howe's estate is sensible, she can't help anyone if she's dragged back to her father, or once again locked up at Howe's estate, even though Howe's dead by that time. She can't let herself be implicated in that, she'll be useless for anyone.

At the Landsmeet, if your PC talked to her, it is also easy to assume that Anora really and truly thinks that Alistair is bad for Ferelden. Shades of Loghain, perhaps?

She will agree to marry Alistair, but she is so very sad about the whole thing for many reasons. My PC get a happier ending than Anora does - be it a single queen or married to Alistair - when she gets to ride off into the sunset with Zevran.