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#26
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Ruck doesn't have to die, but there's no way to give him a good ending.

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Iona, from the nobile human origin - because:



a) What a waste...

B) A little heart breaking to see Amethyne in the Alienage waiting for her mother.

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I didn't like Ser Otto having to die. I thought he was a pretty cool character. A blind templar that kicks ass is pretty cool

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Monica21 wrote...

I hated that Ser Otto died. My first run through the orphanage I wasn't paying attention and lost him to the Mabari or something, so I reloaded to protect him better. It didn't do any good. :(


Talk to the Templars at the Chantry after that quest. You'll feel better. ;)

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AnniLau wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

I hated that Ser Otto died. My first run through the orphanage I wasn't paying attention and lost him to the Mabari or something, so I reloaded to protect him better. It didn't do any good. :(


Talk to the Templars at the Chantry after that quest. You'll feel better. ;)

Since I'm done with that character I'll have to reload a save to find out. And thank you for the tip!

Modifié par Monica21, 31 janvier 2010 - 11:31 .


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equesta wrote...

Iona, from the nobile human origin - because:

a) What a waste...
B) A little heart breaking to see Amethyne in the Alienage waiting for her mother.



Yeah, that's probably the top of the list for me as well.

Also the mother of the kid in Lotherin, even though you never meet her.

Niall.

Everyone else in the human noble origin.

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Niall was actualy the one for whom I was really trying to find a way to save him. And the Caridin's death gave me some blue feeling moments.

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1. Niall

2. Jowan

3. Tamlen

4. Ser Cauthrien

5. Riordan

6. Ser Gilmore

7. Ruck

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Niall was actually a disappointment. He was handsome :P, but he was not a fighter, he gave up way too easily and it was difficult for me to feel sorry for him in any special way.



The one I was really upset about was Harrowmond if you side with Bhelen. He might have been a traditionalist and he might have been old, but he was a honourable man who yielded to Bhelen with dignity (that Bhelen sorely lacks if you choose Harrowmond instead). His death is an act of pragmatism I find hard to accept; although I understand the rationale behind this decision, it is too much Loghain-like for me.

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Ser Otto, the almost blind Templar in the Elven Alienage

He was nearly blind but he still had the guts to go with me fighting demons. And then getting impaled with a trident from the back not even in a fair fight was just wrong....I felt sorry for him, at least for a moment.

Modifié par The Woldan , 31 janvier 2010 - 11:51 .


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Ser Otto--all the people at Cousland, particularly Ser Gilmore who buys us time so valiantly, and our guests, who die while under our protection out of sheer bad luck.... I also work hard to keep the militia, especially Murdock and Thomas alive. Riordan, certainly.... My PC's mother and father, her nephew (er, not real fond of the sister in law, but hey, regret there, too ;). Duncan and Cailan. The moment when Duncan looks up to see the signal fire lit and no reinforcements in sight is one of the defining moments of the game, for me.

Modifié par errant_knight, 01 février 2010 - 12:04 .


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melkathi

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I have a question:

Why do people add Ser Cauthrien to the list? If it makes you feel so bad, don't kill her?

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melkathi wrote...

I have a question:
Why do people add Ser Cauthrien to the list? If it makes you feel so bad, don't kill her?


Don't you have to kill her unless you have a high persuade score? My persuade score was high enough to make her back off and let me into the Landsmeet without fighting.

Also, I suppose you can kill her in that initial fight when you are getting Anora out, although I did not win that fight. I basically blinked and everyone was dead. LoL

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Monica21 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...
Talk to the Templars at the Chantry after that quest. You'll feel better. ;)

Since I'm done with that character I'll have to reload a save to find out. And thank you for the tip!


Hmm, it might need to be done pre-Landsmeet...I just tried it post and they won't give me any dialogue options.

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Hated seeing King Cailan die. I found him likeable so seeing his body get snapped in half by the ogre was sad. RTO just adds to the sadness with how he appears in that. :(

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myself. it was sad. then of course leliana following suit was rather shocking too.

i felt terrible for ser jory though, poor lad wanted to be with his family.

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Daveth. only one out of the three of us I'd consider Grey Warden worthy. My Dwarf casteless was more concerned about himself and his family then he was about becoming a Warden.

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Doyle41 wrote...

i felt terrible for ser jory though, poor lad wanted to be with his family.


Don't get me started.
If the darkspawn hadn't gotten that git, I probably would have killed Duncan myself.

But I feel sorry or both Jory and Daveth, neither deserved to die. Just as the soldiers fighting with you in the tower of Ishal did not.
I wish the player escaped Ostagar a different way, with a handfull of troops. It would have better established the player as group leader and it would have avoided the deus ex machina Flemeth approach.

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I still bawl like a fool when I watch the Ostagar battle cutscene. Cailan and Duncan dying... It's so extremely sad, especially with the music combined.

I didn't want Tamlen to disappear, while I played a male character I somehow always felt they were more than buddies, even though it's not implied in the game. Not that it's ever really denied either. I got really attached to him because my first character was a Dalish male rogue. :(

Modifié par Sefferz, 01 février 2010 - 12:41 .


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errant_knight wrote...

Ser Otto--all the people at Cousland, particularly Ser Gilmore who buys us time so valiantly, and our guests, who die while under our protection out of sheer bad luck.... I also work hard to keep the militia, especially Murdock and Thomas alive. Riordan, certainly.... My PC's mother and father, her nephew (er, not real fond of the sister in law, but hey, regret there, too ;). Duncan and Cailan. The moment when Duncan looks up to see the signal fire lit and no reinforcements in sight is one of the defining moments of the game, for me.


Oh, and I should have mentioned Alistair, since my PC will do just about anything to keep Alistair from getting killed, and does.

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Zevran. I never used him much, and his approval wasn't all that high, but then he goes and turns on me, and I can't even talk him out of it- thanks a lot, Master Coercion! :(

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I really should say I hate to see any of the NPC's die, but, that is not the case.



The only ones I really hate are Tamlen, Duncan, King Cailan, Riordin, and Niall because I feel they died too soon after their introduction and could have become much more complex and integrated into the game.

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Rhinna wrote...

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Wait, you can save Sir Otto? What? How?


If you are a healer, you can heal him.  That's what I did with my mage PC. 

As far as who I hated to see die:
Ser Gilmore *sniffs*  and HN family.
Daveth - I really liked him.   
As previously mentioned, having Zevran along in Deep Roads is sad sad sad when he says you need to put Ruck out of his misery...Especially when Ruck yells "Oh! pretty lady said she would not hurt Ruck!"  




You can heal Sir Otto up until the very last fight... When he gets stabbed with the pitchfork that is the end of him, can't even revive him, I tried lol

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Thor Rand Al wrote...

Rhinna wrote...

eschilde wrote...

Wait, you can save Sir Otto? What? How?


If you are a healer, you can heal him.  That's what I did with my mage PC. 

As far as who I hated to see die:
Ser Gilmore *sniffs*  and HN family.
Daveth - I really liked him.   
As previously mentioned, having Zevran along in Deep Roads is sad sad sad when he says you need to put Ruck out of his misery...Especially when Ruck yells "Oh! pretty lady said she would not hurt Ruck!"  




You can heal Sir Otto up until the very last fight... When he gets stabbed with the pitchfork that is the end of him, can't even revive him, I tried lol


Yeah, I tried, too. I even tried putting lifeward and a force field on him at the end ot the battle. Didn't work, sigh.... Cutscene trumps spells. ;)

Modifié par errant_knight, 01 février 2010 - 01:26 .


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Thor Rand Al

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ComTrav wrote...

Ruck doesn't have to die, but there's no way to give him a good ending.




No he doesn't have a good ending but her really appreciates it if your a female n go bk n talk to him... "pretty lady back, Ruck was just thinking about pretty lady" lol