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Reapers, any thoughts on how/ if they can be defeated?


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jimmyjoefro

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Sovereign devastated many of the galaxy's fleets as one Reeper, and there are seemingly thousands of them waiting in Dark Space.   A head-on battle is out of the question based on what we know right now. They're just way too powerful.   They're not connected through a network like the Geth, so a debilitating virus wouldn't work.

I think that we'll be getting some help from Kumun Shol on Klencory.  I can't see the whole beings of light that were created to protect against the 'machine devils' thing being ignored.

Maybe the galaxy will be doomed to playing this game of keeping the Reepers out for the rest of time.

Modifié par jimmyjoefro, 31 janvier 2010 - 10:52 .


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NoUserNameHere

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Remember that Dark Energy stuff thats affecting stars?



Dark Energy that is put on the mantlepiece in act two must be utilized in act three. No exceptions.

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Theres a lot of options, the galaxy is filled with mysteries. Just look at all the stuff you can learn about just by reading planet descriptions. You mentioned one yourself, but theres lots of other things like the Leviathan of Dis.

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Shepherd needs to team up with Blasto.

Besides, the Citadel/Cerberus aren't that outclassed by the Reapers. If the Reapers attack, they'll surely be destroying everything in their wake, but work slow enough so Shepherd can beat ME3 at least. and Sovereign had an entire Geth army. Now that the Collectors and the Geth are toast, they have no ground troops from what we know.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 31 janvier 2010 - 09:35 .


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jimmyjoefro

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Considering what "Dis" represents, I wouldn't count on that thing helping at all.

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SmilingMirror wrote...

Shepherd needs to team up with Blasto.

Blasto needs no one

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Whatever that cannon was on Klendagon it was able to blast a gaping hole through a Reaper and propel it into a completely different star system with a single shot.



Also the Dark Energy in Haestrom's Sun. Why would heretic Geth show up to the planet? Sure it was in Geth territory and the Quarians were there but they obviously didn't want the Quarians running tests on the sun. My guess is the Reapers are making some form of wormhole from Dark Space to the Galaxy. Reverse engineer that kind of technology and we can warp them even further away.

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Well, a renegade shepard would have the reaper technology available from the end of ME2, and a paragon shepard would have the Rachni. They could help a bit.



Also, I thought the weapon mark/rift on Klengadon was from the Reaper, not against it. I may have misinterpreted it.



And what's this about Dark Energy? After about 70 planets or so I stop reading the descriptions; forgive me.

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Dark Energy is what is thought to be responsible for a few stars prematurely entering their next phase.

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"Aim for the Optics!"

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The Reaper's relied on surprise, advanced technology, and the galaxie's dependence on the mass relays for travel. Even though the council refuses to acknoweledge the Reaper threat, there are those in power who know of their existance, so surprise is out. Even if you chose to destroy the Collector base, there is still an immense amount of Reaper/Collector technology to assimilate, thus narrowing the technological gap. The only issue remaining is the reliance on mass relays for travel. Shutting those down would seperate fleets and prevent any kind of corrdinated strike on the Reapers.



By the time ME3 is out, the races will have advanced tech, prepared a defense, and hopefully find a way to keep the mass relays online and out of Reaper control. With those things accomplished they should be able to mount an effective defense against a Reaper onslaught.

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Turning a sun into a supernova bomb looks to be a logical choice, they'll have to disable the mass relay and get the hell out of there, or evacuate the system.




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redhead1979 wrote...

The Reaper's relied on surprise, advanced technology, and the galaxie's dependence on the mass relays for travel. Even though the council refuses to acknoweledge the Reaper threat, there are those in power who know of their existance, so surprise is out. Even if you chose to destroy the Collector base, there is still an immense amount of Reaper/Collector technology to assimilate, thus narrowing the technological gap. The only issue remaining is the reliance on mass relays for travel. Shutting those down would seperate fleets and prevent any kind of corrdinated strike on the Reapers.

By the time ME3 is out, the races will have advanced tech, prepared a defense, and hopefully find a way to keep the mass relays online and out of Reaper control. With those things accomplished they should be able to mount an effective defense against a Reaper onslaught.


It won't be THAT easy. A single Reaper took on an entire fleet and almost won. A 30 million year dead Reaper can kill you by dreaming, and it takes the galaxy's strongest man to kill a baby Reaper.

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Even through reverse engineering some of Sovereign, they still don't know a lot about the technology. It's not that easy to close a gap as large as the one presented.

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Im guessing we have to find a way to permanently trap them in dark space, or at least most of them. I dont think theres any way to stop them if all of them make it to the milky way.



Or maybe we find out that we can stop them all by killing Harbinger. It wouldnt surprise me if the ending of ME3 consists of Shepard racing towards something that can kill Harbinger, while the rest of the galaxy has united to hold the reapers off and buy us time.

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If they could replicate the weapon that blew a hole in that reaper from the IFF mission, I'd say they'd have a shot, literally. Ofcouse, renegade playthroughs will also have the advantage off the collector base. And there's also the option off the surviving rachni if you saved the queen on noveria. And the genophage cure for the krogans if you decided to keep it. And with Legion in your party, you might be able to recruit the geth's aid against the eapers as well. Provided that the Quarians don't get stupid and attack them. And speaking off the quarians, they got the biggest fleet around, and with the proper adjustements they could probably bring to bear alot off firepower. Supernova'ing suns could also be a viable, if desperate options. Ofcourse this is all speculations piled on speculations. And alot off things need to have been done "right" for any off them to be viable and effective.

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this is off topic but why is it all of the reapers look like sovereign shouldnt there be some diversity since each reaper is modeled after the species it killed ?



But if your paragon you do have rachni and geth on your side it should be prretty damn cool ending


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Was it a single weapon that defeated the Reaper on the IFF Mission?

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Sandman 95 wrote...

this is off topic but why is it all of the reapers look like sovereign shouldnt there be some diversity since each reaper is modeled after the species it killed ?

But if your paragon you do have rachni and geth on your side it should be prretty damn cool ending


How many humans did they actually capture to create half of the Human Reaper?  If they captured all of the human race, they could make hundreds, maybe thousands if they ever captured Earth.

Modifié par jimmyjoefro, 31 janvier 2010 - 10:06 .


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NvVanity wrote...

Whatever that cannon was on Klendagon it was able to blast a gaping hole through a Reaper and propel it into a completely different star system with a single shot.


Chekhov's Ancient Gigantic Mass Accelerator? Yes, that could work. The Illusive Man did say that they found the weapon.

But it would be enough to kill one Reaper. Not thousands (or millions).

I say that the best bet is rerouting their entry point into a black hole. That should be able to kill them. Or destroy any means for entry - but that is likely impossible, because I'm sure they have multiple backups, and one lifetime isn't enough to comb the entire galaxy in search of anything that the Reapers could use.

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A computer virus!

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We need a time machine...



"Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest Son of a ***** in space"

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jimmyjoefro wrote...

Was it a single weapon that defeated the Reaper on the IFF Mission?


I'm trying to remember this from the top off my head, so I might be wrong.

I believe it was a single giant particle accelerator. Which apparently only fired that killing shot before it stopped working. It overloaded maybe I don't know, but from what I remember its not in working condition anymore.

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I hope we can wipe out the Geth in the process...