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[I Vigil I]

If you talk to Legion he hints at a weakness of the reapers that if they are split from each other they are weak.
Its something like the geth intelect in a sense but im probably wrong.

[Shinigami013]

What you honestly think that the Reapers, no matter how many, will be able to defeat Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee? They were cryo frozen for this purpose.

[kaboom4]

Just throwing this out there . . .



This ( http://images4.wikia...sionSEQ3222.jpg ) could be the failed Prothean Reaper being built. Notice how the tubes connecting to thing could be for the paste, like in the Human Reaper. Also, Protheans normally have "tubes" coming from their faces (as shown on the statues on Ilos, here http://images2.wikia...s_statues_2.png ).



Just saying.

[Myrmedus]

On the topic of the supernova 'bouncing' the Mu Relay away people are assuming way too much here. It's not stated at any point that the Mu Relay was within the core blast radius of the supernova, it could have been well away from the most devastating parts of the explosion and pushed purely by the shockwave ripples.

Dark Energy and Dark Matter are the essence of the Universe as we know it, they're basically the fabric of the entire Universe - if the races had control of technology that could manipulate either of those universal forces they could do anything. We're talking about crushing a Reaper with thin 'air' around it, tearing it apart from the inside etc.

If the Universe is a piece of paper and you manipulate Dark Matter/Energy that's basically like crumpling the paper up or utterly ripping it...even the Reapers would be screwed. However, how we've caught up with them so quickly remains a mystery - I honestly wonder if they can't assimilate knowledge in the same way other sentient life does, meaning they're sort of 'static' and outside of time unable to improve on their technology or growth/advancement hence why they feel the need to wipe out other species when hit a certain point that could prove dangerous to them.

Survive for long enough and you catch up to them in terms of tech, maybe?

Modifié par Myrmedus, 01 février 2010 - 03:05 .

[FREEGUNNER]

RiotLaFontaine wrote...
While that would be hilarious to do to them, it looks like they're on a manual course rather than via Mass Relays.

I'm pretty sure that last scene was just symbolism as in they're coming and they can't be stopped.  I don't think they're literally bookin-it to the galaxy cause if they did, they wouldn't arrive until Mass Effect 463.

Modifié par FREEGUNNER, 01 février 2010 - 03:07 .

[manwiththemachinegun]

Guns.

Lots of guns.

[huntrrz]

Giantevilhead wrote...

I'm guessing that they modify the Citadel mass relay so that when the Reapers come through, they arrive in a black hole.

That's been my guess for a while.

Another that just came to me - what if they learn enough about the relays so that instead of changing their destination to something lethal, they recognize the Reaper IFF and collapse the 'zero mass corridor' while the Reaper is in transit?  If I recall a collapsing FTL field results in total particle conversion.  No matter how powerful they are, the Reapers are made of matter.

[Anacronian Stryx]

huntrrz wrote...

Giantevilhead wrote...

I'm guessing that they modify the Citadel mass relay so that when the Reapers come through, they arrive in a black hole.

That's been my guess for a while.

Another that just came to me - what if they learn enough about the relays so that instead of changing their destination to something lethal, they recognize the Reaper IFF and collapse the 'zero mass corridor' while the Reaper is in transit?  If I recall a collapsing FTL field results in total particle conversion.  No matter how powerful they are, the Reapers are made of matter.

Forget the mass relays, Blow up the citadel while all the Reapers are in transit.

[jimmyjoefro]

I don't think there's a way to tell when they're coming through.

[4lex_7ru]

manwiththemachinegun wrote...

Big Guns.

Lots of very big, reaper killing, star system destroying, guns.

Fix'd.

[adam_grif]

Cross posted:

adam_grif wrote...



adam_grif's Reaper solutions:





1. Kodiak retrofitted with nuke.



Build a new class of ship based on the Kodiak shuttle. It's the same chassis, but the cargo hold doesn't fit any people. Instead, it's a single 10 Megatonne nuclear device. The rear of the ship contains a small computer that flies the ship. The front of the shuttle that normally contains the pilot is gutted and merged with the bomb compartment. Extra ablative armor is bolted to the shuttle all round. The drive core doesn't need to be uprated to compensate for all the extra mass, because it doesn't need to go FTL like the shuttle does.



But since it can already go FTL normally, this implies it can reach high relativistic velocities even with added mass. Going at 0.9 C, it can't be intercepted by any reaper point defense (because the 0.13 C railgun slugs from Dreadnoughts are reportedly too fast to intercept with GARDIAN...). They get to within 100 meters of a Reaper and they blow up.



Kodiak's are nicknamed the "3 million credit coffin". This implies a procurement cost of 3 million credits. We'll uprate that to 5 million credits for extra armor and bomb (that's being extremely generous too, because nuclear bombs only cost a few thousand dollars to make once you start mass producing them and economies of scale kick on), this means that the Illusive man could have purchased 800 Reaper Killer Bombs for the price of one resurrected Commander Shepard (>4 Bln credits).





2. Big dumb missile.



If you just slammed a 1 tonne missile into something going at 0.999 C (can't even detect it incoming due to light speed lag), you would deliver 1.458 E+21 Joules of energy. That is approximately equivelant to 1.456 million megatonnes, or 1,456,000,000 kilotonnes of TNT. Contrast with 38 Kilotonnes for dreadnought main gun.



This is planet shattering energy. High relativistic velocities are trivial to achieve (and most ships can go FTL) in the MEverse.



Crude. Effective. Unstoppable. This all applies to non-reaper ships

too. The fact that the System alliance isn't already using things like

this implies that they are all very stupid. If the citadel races were

struck by a sudden bout of competence, it wouldn't be "the reaper

threat" it would be "the reaper joke".

[EnvyXx]

I don't see how some of yall say that the Reapers are "perserving" life in the galaxy. I believe in ME1 that Soveriegn said and I quote *cough* *cough* "I am the Vanguard of your Destruction".

[adam_grif]

This forum moves fast.



Discussion.

[huntrrz]

jimmyjoefro wrote...

I don't think there's a way to tell when they're coming through.

They can tell when the Citadel relay is activated...  But my original thought was 'if they learn enough' about the relays they might discover some handshaking going on between sending and receiving relays.  They'd either have to corrupt the sending relay remotely (which risks detection and repair by the Reapers) or have the receiving relay disrupt the corridor somehow.

[BigKahuna25]

Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet but by the after mission reports it seemed to me like ME3 will have you gaining factions as allies to fight reapers because it says stuff about gaining them as allies or something, I'd have to go over them again to remember the wording though but thats the vibe I got.

[jimmyjoefro]

It may come down to destroying the Citadel, but how many back up plans could the Reapers have?

[hamskii]

you'd need a decent plan for when they attack, like disabling all the mass relays when they come through to the citadel so they can't reach all the other systems, meaning they'd have to wipe them out manually, one by one, which could take hundreds to thousands of years. except if you didn't save the council, the new council doesn't even believe the reapers exist :/

[p-o-d-b-o-d]

Dark Energy = the way to destroy reapers



Quote it, cause it's gonna be the truth in ME3



...maybe

[Hokochu]

Anyone else notice Harbringer's obsession with Shepard? Its no secret that Shepard has been the only thing standing between the Reaper's and our survival whether through luck or sheer determination but I think there is more to Shepard's roll than no one but the Reapers are aware.

Modifié par Hokochu, 01 février 2010 - 07:44 .

[Thrakkesh]

Hokochu wrote...

Anyone else notice Harbringer's obsession with Shepard? Its no secret that Shepard has been the only thing standing between the Reaper's and our survival whether through luck or sheer determination but I think there is more to Shepard's roll than no one but the Reapers are aware.

Actually, on that subject, remember him saying 'If I have to destroy you Shepard, I will?'

All I can think of is... why exactly do you want him alive in the first place?

[jimmyjoefro]

Maybe he's a fan and wants an autograph?

[Hokochu]

Thrakkesh wrote...

Hokochu wrote...

Anyone else notice Harbringer's obsession with Shepard? Its no secret that Shepard has been the only thing standing between the Reaper's and our survival whether through luck or sheer determination but I think there is more to Shepard's roll than no one but the Reapers are aware.

Actually, on that subject, remember him saying 'If I have to destroy you Shepard, I will?'

All I can think of is... why exactly do you want him alive in the first place?

Its either a redo of their Plan B Saren senario, but with Shepard filling that roll or... something beyond our comprehension.... whatever the reason I hope it blows our minds.

[p-o-d-b-o-d]

Thrakkesh wrote...

Actually, on that subject, remember him saying 'If I have to destroy you Shepard, I will?'

All I can think of is... why exactly do you want him alive in the first place?

Ya it seems kinda silly that you would threaten someone by saying you were going to kill them if they didn't stop trying to stop you from... killing all civilisation lol. Why would the reapers not kill Shepard.... Interesting

[Intelwolves]

Hokochu, Yes, i did in the final battle. it said something along the lines of shep must not live.



The thing is if you can beat them. How bad will the lost of life be. 2nd, in order to beat them you will have to use tactics that are so far out of the box it not even funny.