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#101
Nightwriter

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Come on. This screams glitch.



If Conrad were wigging out or losing his mind there would be an option to say, “What the hell are you talking about, Conrad? I never shoved a gun in your face.” There isn’t.

#102
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Hey, glad I was not alone :D It IS A bug because I clearly remember told this annoying fan of my Shepard to go home instead of shoving my gun in his face.

I highly doubt BioWare will fix this in next patch (very unlikely, IMHO).

Modifié par Spectre_Moncy, 27 février 2010 - 05:34 .


#103
carilynn46

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yea when he said and you pointed your gun in my face i was like I did? are talking about when i posed raising my gun and you took a picture of it? cause i don't believe i was aiming it at your face lol

#104
Spectre_Moncy

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Google Gibbed Mass Effect 2 Save editor. Use it to correct this issue. Just untick "Intimidated fan"

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BobbyTheI

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I can verify that unchecking the "Intimidated Conrad" and reimporting a NG+ changes absolutely nothing; Conrad still talks about a gun in his face.

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Spectre_Moncy

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Whoa, that's not cool. Well, actually, I never tested it myself. I can't help feeling that this issue will never be fixed in the future since it is ME1-related problem.

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BobbyTheI wrote...

I can verify that unchecking the "Intimidated Conrad" and reimporting a NG+ changes absolutely nothing; Conrad still talks about a gun in his face.


Hm. Lame.

#108
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It's likely that his editor can be bugged as well.



To be honest, how you treated Conrad before likely won't change all that much, and thus wouldn't be worth the effort to fix. He'll still be on Ilium doing something stupid, the only thing that changes will likely be 1-2 lines referencing how you treated him in ME1.



Also the resolution for him in ME2 if you charm him is nice in that he sets up a charity organization.

#109
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I can also confirm that changing flags for Conrad in the game has no effect on his dialogue.



There isn't any Paragon dialogue for Conrad in the game. End of story. Devs just decided to go with a stock response for Conrad, despite Casey claiming otherwise prior to launch. Oh well.

#110
Bryy_Miller

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T1l wrote...

There isn't any Paragon dialogue for Conrad in the game. End of story. Devs just decided to go with a stock response for Conrad, despite Casey claiming otherwise prior to launch. Oh well.


Yeah, no.

#111
Spectre_Moncy

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Well, who cares? Just assume Conrad has some sort of mental problem.

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Spectre_Moncy wrote...

Well, who cares? Just assume Conrad has some sort of mental problem.


That's the in-game explanation.  I think in this case though it was actually a bug in ME1; the game flagged you as having done both the paragon and renegade options, so there was no way to tell.  Bioware decided to go with the renegade option I guess.  That's what I heard in another thread, at least.

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stillnotking

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I think the developers' complete silence on this topic speaks volumes.

Edit: I also find it really funny how many people have managed to convince themselves that Paragon Shep pointed a gun at Conrad in ME1 (he didn't), or that this is some kind of elaborate in-joke (it isn't).  There's a psychology experiment here somewhere.

It's a bug, and in all likelihood it either can't or won't be fixed.  Just live with it.

Modifié par stillnotking, 07 mars 2010 - 09:57 .


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Yeah, I just finished that imported game I talked about a while back. I had used the Gibbed editor to change my Shepard's background, who he romanced in ME1, and a bunch of other quest flags: all the other changes took, but Conrad was still going on about the gun in the face.  

Not really that big a deal to me: when you import pretty much every quest from the first game, there's going to be something left out.  If he talks about the gun I put in his face in ME3, though (pure Paragon player), I'm really going to wonder about him.  :P 

#115
Cyberfrog81

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Bugs are flaws in programming. If there is some other reason, e.g. those paragon-Shep lines for Conrad were never recorded, then that is not a bug.



It's speculation either way, and Conrad remains awesome in ME2. My renegade character regretted that Conrad died in ME1.

#116
Bryy_Miller

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Terraneaux wrote...

Spectre_Moncy wrote...

Well, who cares? Just assume Conrad has some sort of mental problem.


That's the in-game explanation.


Never in-game did it say this.

#117
Marn_Cherone

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Can verify aswell. using the save editor and importing to a new game does not change the outcome.

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Kaiser Shepard

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*facepalm*

There is sort of a fix now, however, a guy named Epic Legion posted it on here not too long ago. Thing is, the dev team will probably not take an unofficial fix into account for ME3, about which they have already hinted will "explain" why Conrad was acting weird in ME2 (if Paragon'd).

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I don't know which version of Gibbed you people are running, but mine fixed it just fine.

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This has been discussed to death here in the past.

As I understand it, it's a glitch in ME1 that causes the decision flag to be set incorrectly (as both Paragon and Renegade). However correcting the flag in Gibbed has no effect on the game. (Didymos found the script for the Paragon audio and put it on YouTube somewhere.)

Since they'd need to patch ME1 to fix this, I wouldn't hold your breath for a solution.

Personally, I adjusted my behaviour on my ME1 replay. I was Paragon to Conrad, then timed the final conversation to take place after Virmire, which was enough pressure to make Shep go all Renegade on his ass.

The Renegade dialogue is much better anyway. It's totally what Conrad needed to hear.