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[Phex]

I haven't played ME much, though I do plan on finishing it and then eventually buy ME2, while waiting for DA2 or something. 
Anyway, I think DAO and ME1/2 appeal to different audiences. Some people love medieval fantasy, others love sci-fi. Others love them both. It's good that BioWare is catering for both groups. I personally like DAO's more strategic-feel when it comes to combat, ME is much more action oriented. I also prefer to play an RPG in medieval settings... And romances are just so much more exciting when getting it on in a tent/under a starry nightsky rather than a boring spaceship cabin.  Err, I think I've said too much.

[Joshd21]

I played both games and even though I enjoy some of Mass Effect 2 companions and storyline. The graphics are something to drool over, and the ablity to shoot a bullet blowing a squad of people backwards is amazing. Though to be honest

I perfer Dragon Age and I will list why

Companions- In Mass Effect 1-2, you could only speak to your companions during a mission if you were speaking to an NPC, that triggered your companion to draw it's weapon or if it was in their storyline or plot. Most of the time, the companion's had nothing new to say, untill you completed a mission

In Dragon Age, you can turn to a companion and ask what do you think of this, more interaction with companions in Dragon Age to the things you do. You hear them speak to you

Choices- Mass Effect has only a pick of three things usually to say. While Dragon Age on average has about four. Even though you don't hear the voice. You have alot more digloge to choose from. Their are more choices in Dragon Age

Even though in Mass Effect you generally had two choices at the end of every mission. In Dragon Age the choices more noitcable affected the overall game. In some loyatly missions with Mass Effect, the only outcome with your choice to

the overall misssion was a slight change in way they reacted. Though had really no effect on the main mission and none of your other companions spoke about it. There was little digloge interaction

LoytatlyI felt Mass Effect was good, though Dragon Age had the longer extended play. More quests to do, more storyline plots. In Mass Effect the loyatly missions almost felt forced. You had to do this if you want a person to be loyal, in Dragon Age most of the 

Plot Missions were much more smoother, they came naturally and you usually didn't have to kill a bunch of foes to get to the end of it. I won't mention more because of the spoilers, though you didn't have to complete everyone's loyatly quest

to get them to focus on main mission it was optional, and only reasoning behind if they died at main mission because they were distracted or not loyal enough to you. In Dragon Age, it didn't effect

[Sylvius the Mad]

I love DAO. It's probably one of my top 5 games of all time.

Mass Effect was quite a good adventure game. It had an interesting story and I quite enjoyed the gameplay, but I never really got into it because it didn't actually allow roleplaying. I try to roleplay in every game I ever play. That's why I count Alpha Centauri among my top 5 games: it accommodates roleplaying, even though it's not a roleplaying game.

Mass Effect does not, so it was simply a diversion.

[Sidney]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Mass Effect was quite a good adventure game. It had an interesting story and I quite enjoyed the gameplay, but I never really got into it because it didn't actually allow roleplaying. I try to roleplay in every game I ever play.

Then you sir are a gawd awful role player if you didn't find RP opportunities in ME.

Then again if you think you RP AC or Civ then maybe you have a highly warped view of what playing a role means in a game. Do you RP Axis and Allies as well?

[eriaa]

I enjoyed ME2 more than DA:O. Even though they are both RPGs, and both made by Bioware, they are very different games. I love DA:O, but ME2 was just amazing for me. I think it's the fact that your PC talks makes it so much more emotional. The Mass Effect Series is one of my favs, not much will top it for me. I have been working on my second play through of DA:O for months now...I'm almost done with my second ME2 play through...just a more enjoyable game for me.

There are things I like better in DA:O...like the fact there really is no good or evil...it's more about your choices make changes in the story, and affect how your party likes you. Combat however is way better in ME2...I also found the game a lot more engaging and emotional.

[Wishpig]

In my book...

Dragon Age is much better, deeper, and richer then ME.

But ME2 is much better, deeper, and richer then Dragon Age.

I'm hoping Dragon Age 2 is much better, deeper, and richer then ME2 in return.

BUT Mass Effect has a very unique setting with literally a galaxy of possibilities. So lore wise and enviorment wise it can go anywhere really. Dragon Age is much more restricted in those reguards.

Modifié par Wishpig, 02 février 2010 - 12:40 .

[Hel]

Sidney wrote...

I don't think the story hangs together as well - you spend most of the game gathering your allies and not stopping the threat to the galaxy.

That's something that we also see in DAO, I'm afraid.

I'm not a big fan of gathering allies or the likes, but for some reason I did enjoy locating the star maps in KotOR. Maybe that's partially because KotOR's story was more closely centered around the character. Aside from being a Grey Warden the story in DAO isn't very personal, which I hope is something they might consider for future iterations of the franchise.

As for replayability? If you discount the Origins stories there isn't much more replayability in Dragon Age Origins than there is in Mass Effect.

[Akimb0]

ME1 > DAO > ME2.

Really, Bioware games seem to be getting worse as time goes on.

[Yai-Kai]

To me, Dragon Age: Origins was my introduction ticket to BioWare (late bloomer I guess, I blame my past MMO addiction).

After I played it a while I wanted to see if the rumours about bioware were true, downloaded ME1, loved it to bits, bought it on steam during the christmas sales and now own ME2's CE.

ME was my introduction ticket to sci-fi (hated it with a passion before), and the fact I haxxored a ****load of games, and bought the CE's of both DA:O and ME2 says enough about my love for both of them.

They both have excellent stories, no doubt about that. I love all 3 games equally, ME2 slightly more then ME1 for the simple reason of loyalty missions but apart from that they are equal.

And I'll support all 3 of them.

[Ferelden Templar]

Apples and oranges... each one supports a different type of gamer. I grew up to CRPGs so I'm naturally a bit skewed to DAO over ME. Not to say ME1 and ME2 are great games by themselves.



Tbh, I find the Mass Effect Universe a lot more interesting than DAO. More fresh and original. It is the natural evolution of the Shooter as a new gaming experience. Borderlands and other Shooter RPGs are going to be measured up to ME as a yardstick for years to come.



DAO treads on familiar ground that Bioware has done previously. I've played the BG series, Icewind Dale, KOTOR and Jade Empire. I think DAO is the most memorable out of all of them. The influences of Song of Ice and Fire really gave it an edge that people will be talking about for years to come.



Personally I want Bioware to make an Icewind Dale equivalent to DAO. A team built by you from the ground up with more focus on combos and combat.

[mjboldy]

I felt that your party interaction with your Dragon Age party members was better than in ME, but everything else I just loved ME better (especially the gameplay in ME2 even though DAO and ME gameplay is radically different).



If ME had the party interaction of DAO then ME would be even more immersive. I just didn't like how you could only talk about one or two things at a time in ME. I just felt so limited with talking to my party members.

[Sidney]

mjboldy wrote...
If ME had the party interaction of DAO then ME would be even more immersive. I just didn't like how you could only talk about one or two things at a time in ME. I just felt so limited with talking to my party members.

Well and your party members didn't converse during missions. That plus the "not now" feeling made the NPC's feel a bit more distant than my DAO party members. That and since it costs an elevator ride (read: load scren) to go visit them I wasn't as inclined to interact with them.

There were some great stories and very very cool personal quests but the NPC's and their pace in the game never seemed to click into place.

[Unrefined-Nemesis]

DAO is better than the ME series, I just prefer the medieval times and a rpg that ME does not provide, ME didn't feel good to me.

[blade12775]

Played ME1 not ME2. Played DA:O. LIked DA:O alot more than ME1.

[Theslatcher]

ME2><DA:O

[UndercoverDoctor]

You can't really compare the two.

[gotthammer]

I like 'em all (haven't finished ME2, yet...40+ hrs in, and I haven't go into the relay yet).

Each have their own 'feel'. As BW products, tho', IMHO, they're all quite very good.



If there's anything I can throw as a point of comparison, it would be 'atmosphere': ME1 did it well, what I've seen in ME2 seems to surpass that of ME1 (i love some of the environments where LOS is obscured by mist/fog), and DA:O was a bit poor in this department.

That said, I really enjoy/ed the aforementioned games and wouldn't hesitate to get/pre-order their expansions/sequels.

[Langbein Rise]

I love the athmosphere and medieval feeling of DOA, especially the Brecilian Forrest. Running round in dungeons, tunnels and similar is getting boring in the long run.

[DragoonKain3]

Don't like what they did in ME2. More FPS than it is RPG now, kinda like Borderlands. Not to mention Adept scales so freaking bad at higher difficulties to the point that 4 out of 5 powers are useless; even 2H warrior in DAO was still decent at Nightmare.

[Seraosha]

WilliamShatner wrote...

ME for me. Better characters, better story and the game felt like a huge step forward whereas DA:O felt like a step back.

Completely this. I enjoy a good medieval rpg as much as I enjoy a good sci-fi rpg, but Mass Effect 2 feels fresh, whereas Dragon Age felt like a patchwork quilt of every western rpg I've ever played. DA:O sucked up a good few days of my life, but I feel like I'll actually be able to put myself through a second playthrough of ME 2.

[miltos33]

ME2 feels like one of those sweet and have fun for 15 hours games, while DAO is one of those games that you can always come back to when there is nothing else to play.

[AlanC9]

Seraosha wrote...
... but Mass Effect 2 feels fresh, whereas Dragon Age felt like a patchwork quilt of every western rpg I've ever played.

Of course, the ME universe is a patchwork quilt of SF movies, TV, and games. Less games because there haven't been so many SF RPGs (though the planetary exploration game is straight out of Starflight).

As for ME2 feeling fresh, I dunno. "Haven't we seen this movie before?" was the first thing that went through my mind when I heard about our new team members.

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 février 2010 - 07:55 .

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

i like mass effect, but the fact that they removed girl girl options from mass effect 2 is a big role playing downgrade for those of us who played femshepards and romanced liara in the first one.

regardless- DAO is a far better game even though i prefer action oriented games, and guns and grenades over sword and sorcery.

in dao- the world is more immersive since the party members interact the way they do with each other and you- in me1 and me2 it seems taht in order to really get a feel for the world- you have to listen/read codex entries.

while present in dao- codex entries are an "and one" for additional lore, not a necessary tool for bieng immersed int eh world and understanding its major workings.

EDIT:

i do wish they did something different with the other species in dao- using "elves" and "dwarves" does come off as very generic.  they might have put a new slant on the elves, but still nothing "new".

i would have liked to see completely new species fit those "traditional" roles.

Modifié par Bluto Blutarskyx, 03 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[Fuury]

What I liked about ME was the Paragon/Rogue points. To me DAO doesn't matter as much if I am good or evil, other than how some of my party will react.



I them them all for what each brings.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Sidney wrote...

Then you sir are a gawd awful role player if you didn't find RP opportunities in ME.

It's not possible to create a coherent character in ME because his actions forever threaten to contradict his previous behaviour.  The dialogue wheel, as implemented in ME, is incompatible with roleplaying.

Then again if you think you RP AC or Civ then maybe you have a highly warped view of what playing a role means in a game.

It doesn't work as well in Civ; Civ is a bit too quick to reward aggression.