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[SarEnyaDor]

Loyalty and whether or not you upped their specific trait up to 4 (Cerb specialist, salarian scientist etc) is important, also upgrading them and the ship.



I always send Jacob back with the crew.

[tinkezione1]

Ok nailed it! Also Thane survived even though he was never loyal since I failed his loyality mission. (Completed everyone else's loyalty missions.)

Tubes: Legion (Thane + Garrus)
1st fire team: Miranda
Biotic sphere: Samara (Legion + Garrus)
2nd fire team: Miranda
Escort & final battle: Mordin (Legion + Garrus)

Snipers really kicked butt, I must say. Especially Legion's geth sniper rifle is insane.

EDIT: I would like to underline that it seems to be possible to get this achievement even WITHOUT everyone loyal. All ship upgrades done, all armor and prototypes researched, most weapon upgrades researched; missing only sniper 5/5 and SMG clip size I think. Still, snipers ruled over everything despite being only 4/5.

Modifié par tinkezione1, 08 février 2010 - 05:47 .

[SidNitzerglobin]

I did some relatively extensive testing on the vent part of the Collector base assault. I had everyone loyal, all ship upgrades, 90% of the weapon upgrades, all armor/shield upgrades, and all prototypes.  I sent the following:

1st pass (did this three time in a row actually just to see if it was a random thing):
Vents: Tali
2nd Fire Team Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Grunt and Miranda

Tali got shot in the face

2nd pass (did this combo twice, again to see if it was just random):
Vents: Legion
2nd Team Leader: Zaeed
My Squad: Grunt and Miranda

Legion got shot in the face

3rd pass:

Vents: Tali
2nd Fire Team Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Grunt and Miranda

Changed my response to Miranda's comment about everyone knowing this was probably a one way trip after Joker crashed us into the base. Said "I'm not throwing my life away" rather than chosing the top right response.

Tali lived.

In the end I used the following teams, answered "I'm not throwing my life away" in the afforementioned dialog and "Hurry Up"  rather than "Hold the Line" after the biotic barrier section, and every one lived:

Vents:  Tail
2nd Fire Team Leader (both times): Garrus
Escort for Crew:  Mordin
Biotic Barrier:  Samara
My Squad for entire mission: Grunt and Miranda

Modifié par SidNitzerglobin, 08 février 2010 - 04:59 .

[cerberus1701]

All tactical upgrades to the ship made.



All loyalites completed.



Legion for the vents.



Garrus led both teams.



Mordin escorted the crew.



Samara for the barrier



Final boss was Garrus/Tali



All lived on the 1st pass.

[Arrtis]

100% chance sure way everyone survives.

Get armor ship upgrade from jacob

Get Shield ship upgrade from tali

Get Weapons ship Upgrade from Garrus

Get All SQuadmates loyal this requires a high paragon or renegade

WHen squad squabbles use your high renegade or paragon option to end it

If you want your entire crew to survive when they get abducted you have time for legions Loyalty mission then off to Omega relay

During Final mission Send Legion to infiltrate/First team leader Garrus or Miranda

Next Distraction Garrus/Escort Mordin/Team leader Miranda/Biotic Jack or samara/morinth

Final choice leave miranda and garrus to cover the door with the rest of the squad

Take whoever you want win then no one left behind

THIS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT

Just one way

[Sturm Jaeger]

I got No One Left Behind my first playthrough.



All squad loyal.

All ship upgrades made.

Tali in the vents.

Garrus leading both fire teams.

Jacob escorted the crew.

[Few87]

Ohhh I won that acheivement! I made my ship fully upgraded and used legion in the vents, garrus led the squads both times, samara was the shield and Thane sent back the survivors.

Modifié par Few87, 08 février 2010 - 05:15 .

[AGogley]

so did I.



All squad loyal. All possible upgrades. Legion in the vents. Garrus leading both teams. Mordin escorts the crew. Miranda and Samara on final boss. Also used Cain on final boss and got him down very quickly.

[Few87]

Oh yes, I suppose I should add, everyone was loyal and I had Tali and Miranda in the final squad. I also did not have the krogan out of his tank....I dont like Krogans

[Zepheera]

***MASSIVE SPOILERS***














For the vent, you have to have a tech expert (meaning someone who can hack, ie Legion or Tali)

For the fire teams, you have to have someone who's experienced in leading other people (Jacob, Miranda, or Garrus have led combat units in the past, the rest of the squad were loners, followers, and non combatants) Choosing someone unsuited to leading the fire team will get your tech person killed regardless, and will get them killed themselves for the second round.

For the Barrier, you have to have a specialized... POWERFUL... biotic, not someone who just uses biotics in addition to other skills, that means Samara/Morinth, or Jack, anyone else doesn't have the energy pool to give that one final push.

For the final fight, leading the crew out, and for each of the above choices, you have to take someone who is loyal to you, otherwise, they won't go the extra mile to help you succeed.

With the distraction team, it seems as though you have to leave at least one tough fighter for them to live, Tali and Mordin won't make it on their own, Thane, Garrus, and Jack being left with the distraction team will cause it to survive. Not sure on the other team members, as I've only done one play through that wasn't a 100% survival, and that one was only to see the suicide ending.

I've been able to finish with 100% survival with 4 loyal team members, Tali (my vent runner), Garrus (Fire team leader both times) Jack (Barrier) and Thane.  I took Garrus and Thane with me on the final boss, sent Tali back to the ship with the crew, left Jack with the distraction team, and everyone survived.
/end Spoilers

Modifié par Zepheera, 08 février 2010 - 06:02 .

[Madodaz]

That can't be right. My tech guy was Mordin. and tean leader was miranda.

[Lozamatoz]

I lost Jack and Jacob in my playthrough and Jacob was the only guy not loyal in my team. I guess I had to send him to do a particular job in order to save him? Jack died due to not having the ship armour upgrade I believe as the Osiris laser came through the hull and ended her.



This was my set up for the final mission:



Legion as specialist

Miranda as first fireteam leader

Garrus as fireteam leader for part 2

Grunt as escort

I used all the valves in time.

Me, Garrus and Samara were in the final party.



Jacob died for no reason in the end. This confused me.

[Zayin]

Here's what I did the other night. I waited to do the Derelict Reaper mission for the end after ALL the upgrades and sidequests were done. By that point it was easy to see that that Reaper mission was ushering in the end part of the game after you get the IFF.



My Shep was a Soldier with the Revenant LMG. All my companions were loyal and I went to save the crew ASAP.



Here's my team set-ups and the reasons behind them.



Vents: Legion

--Geth super hacker who doesn't need atmosphere or gravity... and who knows what could happen in the vents

2nd Fire Team Leader: Miranda

--Her overload and warp would be good to keep others alive as when I had her in my team

My Team: Garrus & Tali

--Facing down a threat with my old friends like old times. Garrus' Concussion shot and Tali's Combat Drone... very helpful.



Escort for Crew: Samara

--A Justicar would help those in need

Biotic Barrier: Jack

--The "most powerful human biotic in the galaxy" seemed qualified for the task

My team: Garrus & Tali

--Again with my old friends. To Hell and back.

2nd Fire Team Leader: Miranda

--Again with her skills and powers



Finale squad: Garrus & Miranda

--I was tempted to keep Tali but I figured a "hold the line" scenario could use helpful distraction combat drones that go for the optics. Miranda's Warp/Overload combo was great for dealing with Collectors in the end.



I'd been spoiled from tech forums and from a friend only in that it's possible for people to die no matter their loyalty so I was sweating bullets during every cut scene with my squads. In the end, everyone lived (including crew). I got the ending I wanted for my carry-over save for ME3 on my first try. :-D Now it's time to wait a couple years till the end of the Trilogy, heh.

[Xaviu]

Bah i lost Tali and grunt in the second fire team but well now i know what to do:)

[coppercondor]

zaeed led first squad, jacob went in the vents (poor jacob, shouldnt hav volunteered) thane escorted, i then had miranda led the squad the second time around and friggan mordin DIED!!! WTF I lost mordin and jacob, i was about to cry lol but Samara did the bubble even though i find her annoying

[Justin2k]

Did it first time using all paragon voice options.  Had full loyalty with everyone. Had every single upgrade the team recommended including Geth sniper for Legion and biotic upgrade for Jack.

Legion through tunnels, Garrus as back up squad leader. Got to the vents asap and noone died.
Jack did the barrier, Miranda did the back up squad and Samara escorted the crew back.
Everyone stayed to watch the door while Tali and Miranda went with Shepard for final boss. Tali almost fell off the platform at the end but Shepard saved her :-)

Overall it seemed fairly logical.  You even get vocal cues.. ie pick Garrus for fireteam and Miranda says "at least he knows what he's doing".  Pick Legion for tunnels and Shepard says "you can do this, you can hack through anything". etc.

Modifié par Justin2k, 09 février 2010 - 07:56 .

[SkyJackal]

Tubes: Tali
1st Fireteam: Miranda
Biotic: Jack
2nd Fireteam: Jacob
Escort: Mordin (heard he dies at the door a lot)
End: Thane, Tali.

Pretty sure the conditions are:

Loyal Tali/Legion for the tubes (anyone else, even if loyal, dies)
Loyal Miranda/Garrus/Jacob for the fireteams (anyone else, even if loyal, dies)
Loyal Jack/Samara for Biotic (anyone else, even if loyal, dies)
Any loyal character (anyone have someone loyal die here?) for the Escort.

The only real issue seems to be the door. What determines who lives/dies there? Maybe to do with if you've had anyone die before that point (crew included?).

Modifié par SkyJackal, 09 février 2010 - 08:00 .

[Daewan]

Got it on my first try
Everyone was loyal. All upgrades were done except for 1 shotgun and 1 smg damage upgrade.
femShep Commando
Vents: Legion. I figured if Legion admired me enough to wear my armor, he would go the extra mile. I opened all the valves with plenty of time.
My Team: I brought Miranda and Thane with me so I could use her Overload and he could help me with fast kills.
Fire Team Leader: My boy Garrus. I taught him everything he knows, I knew he wouldn't screw it up. Basically, I assumed anyone who had tried to get into my femShep's pants was loyal enough to survive.
Escort: Thane, again, on the basis of my pants I figured he wanted to live long enough to try again.
Biotic Barrier: Samara. You'd be amazed at how well the pants test worked to determine loyalty.
Team 2: Miranda and Tali - Overload and Combat Drones to cover me while I did stupid things like standing up to snipe.
Fire Team 2: Why mess with perfection? Garrus again. He didn't fail me.
Finale Team: Miranda and Garrus. I needed backup I could trust and that could do damage, and frankly, Miranda's Overload was addictive. Garrus and I work really well together. Too bad he's still not getting any.
Saved the world. Everybody came back. Except that tart who snapped at my Kaidan. I didn't even imagine that ending for her, but hey it worked for me.
I did notice that the choice of Fire Team leader helps determine whether the specialist in the vents survives or not.
Also, the quickpost thing does weird stuff to my line spacing.

Modifié par Daewan, 09 février 2010 - 08:10 .

[thunder2204]

In my first playthrough I had everyone's loyalty except Jack. I used Tali for the vent and Garrus for leader both times and used Samara for the biotic field and Grunt as escort. Jack did not make it. I would like to mention that when we were ready to go on the suicide mission on first playthrough, I did other side quests to see if I can get Jack's loyalty, I could not and when I left tor the final mission, the Chambers lady did not make it. Now, the second playthrough I did some things diffferent. I played in Hardcore, couldn't get Jack to become loyal after I chose Miranda after their little dispute but as soon as I played as Joker and passed that I Immediately went on to the last mission. I chose Tali again for the vent. Miranda for leader both times, Mordin for escort and Samara for biotic field. The Chambers lady made it this time and so did Jack even do she was not loyal. I earned the no one left behind achievement. One other thing that may or may not change things. fIrst playthrough I deciced to keep the Collector base for Cerberus, Second playthrough I blew it up and Illusive man was not happy. Good luck. Now that I think of it. It makes some sense that Jack would die If I chose to keep Collector base seeing how much she hates Cerberus and that she would make it alive if I decide to ****** of the Illusive Man and destroy it.

Modifié par thunder2204, 05 mars 2010 - 04:07 .

[SgtBriareos]

Chillwill wrote...

Why would that matter, the whole other team is with us behind the door, Legion dies while closing the door with us, after all parties had completed there part.

Really weird if that factors in.

Not weird at all: once in, if the leader is appropriate calls for suppresive fire so that Legion/Tali can do his job, without a proper leader everybody rushes in and collectors swarm the entrance. Like Kal'Reegar said, hacking a door is quite difficult with somebody firing rockets at you. Deadly difficult.

[NICKjnp]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

You need all the ship upgrades except fuel, probes and med-bay. And you need ALL the loyalty missions completed.

Lastly you need to have all your people playing the proper roles.

Tali and Legion go into the vent.
Miranda as secondary leader, both times.
and Grunt or maybe Zaeed escorting the crew.

That is correct up to the point about Grunt and Zaeed.  You need to them to hold the line since they are considered the strongest defenders.  Send Mordin back with the crew.  Make sure to leave Grunt, Zaeed, Garrus and Jacob as the main defenders... the game considers them the toughest characters.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 05 mars 2010 - 04:16 .