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Gambit One

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 I must have missed something. Why were the reapers making a human reaper? It seemed kind of random.

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To kill. Human's did kill Soveriegn and maybe they thought a Human Reaper would be more stronger than an avaerage Reaper? Sorry if i didnt give you the answer you wanted, i dont know the answer myself.

What made me wonder if the Human Reaper was made in the shape of a Human using Human's to create it.

Then i am guessing that other reapers were created seperatly with individual species.

So in Mass 3 expect to be at war agaisnt a massive robot Hanar, Asari, Human, space monkey, suspicious cow etc etc.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 31 janvier 2010 - 11:41 .


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So the Reapers had someone that could say "I'll be back"

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Naughty Bear wrote...

To kill.

What made me wonder if the Human Reaper was made in the shape of a Human using Human's to create it.

Then i am guessing that other reapers were created seperatly with individual species.

So in Mass 3 expect to be at war agaisnt a massive robot Hanar, Asari, Human, space monkey, suspicious cow etc etc.

I'm pretty sure EDI explained the others. And the only explanation I had was that Shepard managed to defeat a Reaper. The reaper's were envious of a humans will and dedication so decided to create a Reaper based upon humans. 

Was I wrong in thinking this?

Modifié par vallix, 31 janvier 2010 - 11:43 .


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The reapers see themselves as god's essentially. Then along comes a single Human who spoils all their plans that have gone unchecked for millions of years. So now they think, hey maybe humans are special (They're also, apparently, very genetically diverse... And are an interest to many of the other ME races)



Humans are definitely more significant than any other race in the galaxy. And the reapers are trying to utilize that.

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Pro tip: Don't put a massive end game spoiler in the title of your thread.



People can still see the title even if they haven't opened the spoiler forum.


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vallix wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

To kill.

What made me wonder if the Human Reaper was made in the shape of a Human using Human's to create it.

Then i am guessing that other reapers were created seperatly with individual species.

So in Mass 3 expect to be at war agaisnt a massive robot Hanar, Asari, Human, space monkey, suspicious cow etc etc.

I'm pretty sure EDI explained the others. And the only explanation I had was that Shepard managed to defeat a Reaper. The reaper's were envious of a humans power so decided to create one based upon humans. 

Was I wrong in thinking this?


I was thinking the same thing as you but i didnt know how to put it into words.

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The way i understand it, every 50,000 years the reapers wipe out the dominant intelligent life at the time and render them down to make a new reaper.

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Shishio_sama wrote...

The way i understand it, every 50,000 years the reapers wipe out the dominant intelligent life at the time and render them down to make a new reaper.







WROOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every REAPER shown in the reaper armada at the end looked just like sovereigh.

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Endo322 wrote...

The reapers see themselves as god's essentially. Then along comes a single Human who spoils all their plans that have gone unchecked for millions of years. So now they think, hey maybe humans are special (They're also, apparently, very genetically diverse... And are an interest to many of the other ME races)

Humans are definitely more significant than any other race in the galaxy. And the reapers are trying to utilize that.


I definitely agree with this. I mean, think about it. Humans have been on the galactic stage for a shorter period of time than most of the other species. Yet already, they've managed to become one of the most influential races out there, and it was a member of their species that managed to kill Sovereign.

And given what we now know about Reapers, that they harvest organic beings to create themselves, it follows that they'd want to create a Reaper based off what is obviously a rather formidable species.

As far as people asking how a Human shaped Reaper would work, keep in mind that thing was in its infant stages. There's no way of knowing if it would have looked like a 'complete' Human, had it been finished. It might not have had legs, or maybe they were just using the Human skeletal frame as a base structure to build off of later?

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I wouldn't say HUMAN shaped as much as it's humanoid shaped.

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ARK of ILKS wrote...

Shishio_sama wrote...

The way i understand it, every 50,000 years the reapers wipe out the dominant intelligent life at the time and render them down to make a new reaper.







WROOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every REAPER shown in the reaper armada at the end looked just like sovereigh.


No it didn't if you look even closer they are abit diffrent not much , but they are which obviously puts that into an alternative

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Ever since seeing the human reaper I've wondered. How the hell would it fly if it were completed. A rocket out its ass? Jetpack? Rocket feet?

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The Human Reaper may have been created to replace Sovereign, and attempt to reopen the gate once again. With Sovereign destroyed they needed a Reaper back in the Milky Way to be the Vanguard once again.



So, that means Shepherd has killed 3 reapers. Sovereign, the Disabled Reaper, and the Human Reaper. Damn that'd ****** me off if I were an unkillable entity :P

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The way I interpreted it was that every time a civilisation gets wiped out, the essence of their beings is made into a new reaper to join their fleet. But the ending sequence with all the Reapers looking the same kind of killed that............. So I don't know. It does seem really odd.

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HoboJ wrote...

Ever since seeing the human reaper I've wondered. How the hell would it fly if it were completed. A rocket out its ass? Jetpack? Rocket feet?


Sovereign had none of those things, why would a Human-Reaper? Anyway:

Assimilating humans; who have proven themselves worthy because of Shepard's actions in ME1.

Reapers are our salvation through our destruction; according to Harbinger. So yeah, assimilation into Reaper god-hood.

The reason the other Reapers look the same is maybe because they've never encountered a worthy race to 'save', like they have with us humans, or that space-ship Reapers and the Human-Reaper-sized Reapers are two separate types, and the smaller human-reaper version fulfills a different purpose.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 31 janvier 2010 - 11:57 .


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There has to be something special about humans that made the collectors/reapers chose to make a human reaper. There's a lot of mention of how the collectors were making odd requests for trading technology for dyslexic krogan, "pure" quarians (never left the floatilla), asari twins, biotic humans, etc. My guess is the collectors have been testing various species for eligibility to be come a reaper (since they, the prothians couldn't become one themselves) and after so long they found humans to be the best candidates, possibly because our "diverse" genetics, or maybe just because Shep's human and he killed a reaper. Either way there's something unique about humans that the reapers want to incorporate into themselves - or perhaps something that they fear.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

To kill. Human's did kill Soveriegn and maybe they thought a Human Reaper would be more stronger than an avaerage Reaper? Sorry if i didnt give you the answer you wanted, i dont know the answer myself.

What made me wonder if the Human Reaper was made in the shape of a Human using Human's to create it.

Then i am guessing that other reapers were created seperatly with individual species.

So in Mass 3 expect to be at war agaisnt a massive robot Hanar, Asari, Human, space monkey, suspicious cow etc etc.


There wont be reaper versions of the races in game.

It took two years to make the "embryo" human reaper, so unless they've been kidnapping everything in the galaxy since before the game started we wont see any reaper versions of the races in mass effect.

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It may not be human at all, why are you saying it's human? It's a humanOID shape.

Modifié par Wintermist, 31 janvier 2010 - 11:58 .


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HoboJ wrote...

Ever since seeing the human reaper I've wondered. How the hell would it fly if it were completed. A rocket out its ass? Jetpack? Rocket feet?


Hahaha.

To be fair we don't see any particular 'propulsion' on Sovereign either, it just 'floats' with pure POWAH. I imagine it would've looked rather like an angel in its movements in space...*shivers*.

Anyway, the reason for the human reaper has been pretty much explained so far but I haven't seen much of an explanation as to why it became shaped as it did so I'll explain that. The idea is that the process of 'building' a Reaper is like a baby 'growing' except that baby happens to be huge and contain millions of individuals' DNA. Because it's basically 'growing' rather than being built it ends up looking like the species it originated from.

I want to be a Human Reaper...:( - might be a problem going to watch football matches though, suppose you could hover above.

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Reproduction, it would seem.

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Wintermist wrote...

It may not be human at all, why are you saying it's human? It's a humanOID shape.


Because it is human lol, it's explained in the game. Its DNA is human - it's basically a cyborg.

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I Think it has something to do, with what race was used as "energy" to build the individual reaper, notice how Harbinger kind of looks like a Collector.

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How the hell did they get the DNA off of that thing? I don't recall that happening, or maybe I just blocked it out.

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DarkNova50 wrote...

Endo322 wrote...

The reapers see themselves as god's essentially. Then along comes a single Human who spoils all their plans that have gone unchecked for millions of years. So now they think, hey maybe humans are special (They're also, apparently, very genetically diverse... And are an interest to many of the other ME races)

Humans are definitely more significant than any other race in the galaxy. And the reapers are trying to utilize that.


I definitely agree with this. I mean, think about it. Humans have been on the galactic stage for a shorter period of time than most of the other species. Yet already, they've managed to become one of the most influential races out there, and it was a member of their species that managed to kill Sovereign.

And given what we now know about Reapers, that they harvest organic beings to create themselves, it follows that they'd want to create a Reaper based off what is obviously a rather formidable species.

As far as people asking how a Human shaped Reaper would work, keep in mind that thing was in its infant stages. There's no way of knowing if it would have looked like a 'complete' Human, had it been finished. It might not have had legs, or maybe they were just using the Human skeletal frame as a base structure to build off of later?


I think this fits fairly well.  There's something special about humanity that has yet to be fully revealed, though I think there might be possible glimpses of what it might be back on Ilos.

I think the Protheans might have been in a similar situation at some point in time.  Surely they weren't the only ones to actually inhabit the Citadel at the time of their destruction.  Instead they're the only ones remembered.

This also ties into the fact that Shepard is able to link with the Prothean beacons.  There's a bit more signifigance to it than merely force of will.  I think that'll be revealed at some point as well.