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[Delta Green]

A fully completed human reaper would be giant and naked with their private parts all showing....



terrifying

[Textron]

The points I've seen:



1. We see that the Collector (Prothean) reaper, named Harbringer, was controlling the collecters and the collector general.



2. It looks like the reapers turn the most dominant life form (humans this time) into a reaper every 50,000 years when they retake the galaxy.



Thoughts:

1. Humans are the biggest threat to the reapers from their perspective. Cerberus and TIM are working on strengthening Humanity more. As a story twist, could TIM have dreams of making humanity into the immortal masters of the galaxy like the Reapers are? His interest in Reaper technology, and in making humanity THE defacto powerhouse of races is interesting. Also, his eyes lead me to assume, he's not entirely human.



2. It might be that the reapers could have controlled human minds with a Human reaper, like the Collector reaper (Harbringer) did to the Collectors (Protheans). Maby with the intention of controlling Shepard.



3. Knowing that they as reapers would be Marching in to finish the fight soon before the current races become too aware and powerful, they were attempting to proactively gather as much of the dominant race as possible to create a reaper.



4. They still could use (need?) a reaper in the system capable of opening the mass relay at the citadel again so that they can get through fast.

[vallix]

Maybe the Reapers are Transformers that would solve everything.

[this isnt my name]

I would love it if it turns out the reapers are fighting some other godlike enemy, and by killing them we have basically screwed the reapers and ourselves, I mean they replace reapers but they could build more, why would they want a fleet that grows forever, its pointless.


Edit: Yeah TIMs eyes are weird I think I saw 3 glowing squares in them not sure. And the theory about wanting to be a reaper fits, he wants humans to survive, technecally they do, he wants them to be the most advanced they could all if they join the reapers...I think my opinions of Cerberus are changing, its one thing to put humanity first, it another to make all humans into machines.

Modifié par this isnt my name, 01 février 2010 - 12:10 .

[TJWrds]

This is kind of off topic but Harbinger said several times to keep shepard's body intact, I think after finishing the human reaper they need some governing intellect over it and they intended shepard for that...meh, just speculation.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

Here are a few helpful tidbits:



The human reaper was only the internal control structure of a reaper (EDI says this), it would look like a squid on the outside.



The reapers rebuild using the genetic material of the last species to give them a beating so they evolve that way. (EDI again)



The reapers might or might not have creators, or they did it to themselves.



The collectors are repurposed protheans because the reapers had a backup plan, its stupid to have your whole army in dark-space.



Shepard was not the first to kill a reaper evidenced by a beaten to hell soverign, beaten by protheans, and the derelict one destroyed by a race older than the protheans. (stated by TIM)

[Dellingr]

reproduction is why the reapers harvest organic life, every 50,000 years there's enough biomass to build a fair few new reapers, which end up looking a little bit like the species whose biomass went into their biological components, though I'm guessing that thing would eventually have looked a bit more like the other reapers we see, who are indeed all slightly different looking as was pointed out above

[Lanparth]

The Derelict Reaper wasn't "Dead", it was more in a coma. But I lawled when I realized it was basically hit by a massive mass cannon which scarred a planet as the aftereffect of shooting it. Its like "You got pwned."

[Myrmedus]

Lanparth wrote...

The Derelict Reaper wasn't "Dead", it was more in a coma. But I lawled when I realized it was basically hit by a massive mass cannon which scarred a planet as the aftereffect of shooting it. Its like "You got pwned."

What I'd like to know is how the hell did the species that destroyed it get beaten with such power? Maybe this was the original/first war the Reapers were in?

[Flacracker]

Is Mass Effect like the only story where things can go back millions of years?

[GnusmasTHX]

Myrmedus wrote...

Lanparth wrote...

The Derelict Reaper wasn't "Dead", it was more in a coma. But I lawled when I realized it was basically hit by a massive mass cannon which scarred a planet as the aftereffect of shooting it. Its like "You got pwned."

What I'd like to know is how the hell did the species that destroyed it get beaten with such power? Maybe this was the original/first war the Reapers were in?

Or they didn't normally field an army of super-weapons.

[john william]

I don't think the Reapers necessarily build new Reapers during every cycle. The probably only do it with species who prove their worth.



Also, I'm sure the reason that the army of Reapers all look alike is because of scarcity of resources on the developer's part. Personally, I'm more annoyed I didn't get to see Tali's face...

[SunfighterG8]

Dellingr wrote...

reproduction is why the reapers harvest organic life, every 50,000 years there's enough biomass to build a fair few new reapers, which end up looking a little bit like the species whose biomass went into their biological components, though I'm guessing that thing would eventually have looked a bit more like the other reapers we see, who are indeed all slightly different looking as was pointed out above

See also page 15 of the collectors art book if you got it.

If you dont:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/Sunfighter/reaperhuman.jpg

[Myrmedus]

Shepard was not the first to kill a reaper evidenced by a beaten to hell soverign, beaten by protheans, and the derelict one destroyed by a race older than the protheans. (stated by TIM)

Beaten to hell Sovereign, beaten by Protheans? Eh?

And the Derelict Reaper may have been slain millions of years ago perhaps in a war that started off their entire philosophy on organic life...in other words I'm suggesting that a beam cannon with such power was probably coming from an enemy in their own 'timeline'.

[Flacracker]

john william wrote...

I don't think the Reapers necessarily build new Reapers during every cycle. The probably only do it with species who prove their worth.

Also, I'm sure the reason that the army of Reapers all look alike is because of scarcity of resources on the developer's part. Personally, I'm more annoyed I didn't get to see Tali's face...

Like people have said above, the human looking part is only the inside.
It would end up looking like these:
http://images1.wikia...eaper_fleet.png

[Myrmedus]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

Lanparth wrote...

The Derelict Reaper wasn't "Dead", it was more in a coma. But I lawled when I realized it was basically hit by a massive mass cannon which scarred a planet as the aftereffect of shooting it. Its like "You got pwned."

What I'd like to know is how the hell did the species that destroyed it get beaten with such power? Maybe this was the original/first war the Reapers were in?

Or they didn't normally field an army of super-weapons.

Even so they basically one-shot a Reaper, so even if they used weaker weapons usually that'd kill them in 5 shots? 10? That sounds like a true match to me.

Another thing to consider is that perhaps the Reapers view this 'induction' process as giving those species ascension...maybe they think they're doing us a favour. This is also hinted at by Harbinger many times, many of the quotes have already been mentioned but another one I find intriguing is: "You are short sighted, Shepard" when fighting him.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 01 février 2010 - 12:22 .

[XiNAVRO]

Different game, but I can't help but think of what the Scrins mentioned in Command & Conquer 3. Human race has a cultural factor of 4.5 when the weapons technology factor at 17.4 - we are a combat-specialized race like the Krogans, so to speak.

As others have mentioned, humanity (mainly Shepard) must have impressed the Reapers quite a lot.

[VSanders]

Yeah. It was clearly meant to be inside a full reaper vessel or used for some other purpose since it is SIGNIFCANTLY smaller than a reaper vessel. The derelict reaper was two kilometers long according to the game. The human reaper structure we saw couldn't have been more than a few hundred feet tall.

[Myrmedus]

Wintermist wrote...

How the hell did they get the DNA off of that thing? I don't recall that happening, or maybe I just blocked it out.

? What do you mean? The Human Reaper was created using the genetic material of all the colonists they abducted so it is, essentially, human....

[Flacracker]

SunfighterG8 wrote...

Dellingr wrote...

reproduction is why the reapers harvest organic life, every 50,000 years there's enough biomass to build a fair few new reapers, which end up looking a little bit like the species whose biomass went into their biological components, though I'm guessing that thing would eventually have looked a bit more like the other reapers we see, who are indeed all slightly different looking as was pointed out above

See also page 15 of the collectors art book if you got it.

If you dont:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/Sunfighter/reaperhuman.jpg

Yeah the back looks like a face. It looks like a prothean. So where that face is is where the human face would be.

[Myrmedus]

VSanders wrote...

Yeah. It was clearly meant to be inside a full reaper vessel or used for some other purpose since it is SIGNIFCANTLY smaller than a reaper vessel. The derelict reaper was two kilometers long according to the game. The human reaper structure we saw couldn't have been more than a few hundred feet tall.

It's probably it still had to 'grow' aswell. It's hard to think of a machine-looking being growing but since it was partially organic it may have grown larger in time aswell.

[SunfighterG8]

Lets be honest though. Bioware knew their end boss looked exactly like a terminator....and they didnt want to get sued....



So thats why it has a 3rd eye.....



According to the artbook they had serveral variations for the endboss and they somehow decided on the terminator.... they also had a baby in the womb sorta deal...i guess that got scrapped for well wed be shooting a giant baby...

[Flacracker]

SunfighterG8 wrote...

Lets be honest though. Bioware knew their end boss looked exactly like a terminator....and they didnt want to get sued....

So thats why it has a 3rd eye.....

According to the artbook they had serveral variations for the endboss and they somehow decided on the terminator.... they also had a baby in the womb sorta deal...i guess that got scrapped for well wed be shooting a giant baby...

A ROBOT BABY!

[Dellingr]

Flacracker wrote...

SunfighterG8 wrote...

Dellingr wrote...

reproduction is why the reapers harvest organic life, every 50,000 years there's enough biomass to build a fair few new reapers, which end up looking a little bit like the species whose biomass went into their biological components, though I'm guessing that thing would eventually have looked a bit more like the other reapers we see, who are indeed all slightly different looking as was pointed out above

See also page 15 of the collectors art book if you got it.

If you dont:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/Sunfighter/reaperhuman.jpg

Yeah the back looks like a face. It looks like a prothean. So where that face is is where the human face would be.

exactly, it's just the beginnings of a reaper, the completed structure would likely be squidlike in form

I do have the art book, but I hadn't paid attention to that pic until then, good find

[stuman89]

Textron wrote...

The points I've seen:

1. We see that the Collector (Prothean) reaper, named Harbringer, was controlling the collecters and the collector general.

2. It looks like the reapers turn the most dominant life form (humans this time) into a reaper every 50,000 years when they retake the galaxy.

Thoughts:
1. Humans are the biggest threat to the reapers from their perspective. Cerberus and TIM are working on strengthening Humanity more. As a story twist, could TIM have dreams of making humanity into the immortal masters of the galaxy like the Reapers are? His interest in Reaper technology, and in making humanity THE defacto powerhouse of races is interesting. Also, his eyes lead me to assume, he's not entirely human.

2. It might be that the reapers could have controlled human minds with a Human reaper, like the Collector reaper (Harbringer) did to the Collectors (Protheans). Maby with the intention of controlling Shepard.

3. Knowing that they as reapers would be Marching in to finish the fight soon before the current races become too aware and powerful, they were attempting to proactively gather as much of the dominant race as possible to create a reaper.

4. They still could use (need?) a reaper in the system capable of opening the mass relay at the citadel again so that they can get through fast.

Remember, the Protheans couldnt be made into a Reaper for some odd reason that we havent been told. The Reapers made them into the Collectors because that was all they could do with them besides wiping them out.