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Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

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Play through. Don't pursue the relationship. End the game. Look back. Justify the lack of relationship as a result of her having no interest in humans.

In all honesty I don't think she has any interest in alien species. She has an interest in Shepard. That's vastly different than having an interest in humans of that sort.

Sort of like the idea of a woman that likes men, but that "one" woman she likes in the same way as the men. She doesn't like other women in that manner, just the one. I find the result similar. It's not about the race or gender, it's about "that person."


Nooooo!!  I can't think that hard about....stuff like that!!!

Tali can't be 'human-liking' just for Shepard.  It goes against the universe...or something.

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They do get a brief moment, or so I've heard.

That being said, not every woman in the game need be bisexual.


Not every woman in the game is Bisexual.

Also true, I think in the end this is a hot button issue and there is no tidy resolution but I stand by my statements that:

1) it isn't in game currently as a "complete" romance option for females, maybe flirting I guess but nothing more.

2) It does not really matter in the large scheme of things but I doubt a rewrite of any official capacity in the works.

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watch someone in EA now say we must kill tali in ME3 you've all doomed her doomed her I say!

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Kyero wrote...

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It'd make those crazy Krogan+Shepard fans happy. :)


Hey now.. I did say reasonable XD


Reason is hard to quantify. What, you don't find Krogan cuddly?

Niether do I.

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ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.


Mordin would have been a better malien option, by far!

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ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.

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since when did Tali dislike humans? or do you mean something diffrent

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Kyero wrote...

since when did Tali dislike humans? or do you mean something diffrent


I'm not saying she dislikes humans.   It just doesn't make sense that she'd want to romance one.

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ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.


Methinks that someone suffers from moron syndrome. Turian skin isn't hard as a rock or jagged. They evolved thin metallic plates OVER their skin to protect from radiation.

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jlb524 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

since when did Tali dislike humans? or do you mean something diffrent


I'm not saying she dislikes humans.   It just doesn't make sense that she'd want to romance one.


didn't make sense to me that a Asari and a Krogan could hook up. Not to mention the Quarian on Illium who dated SEVERAL humans.

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Janan Pacha wrote...

Kyero wrote...

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It'd make those crazy Krogan+Shepard fans happy. :)


Hey now.. I did say reasonable XD


Reason is hard to quantify. What, you don't find Krogan cuddly?

Niether do I.


Shepard did get that one breeding request...which I'm pretty sure only comes from females...which is wierd...

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What is it with people wanting everyone to be ****** or bisexual? Hello! Not everyone is, most aren't.

"Why can't my female shepard romance Tali!?" Why can't she romance Miranda!? Why can't she romance Jack!?" Why can't my male Shepard romance Thane? Why can't he romance Garrus or Jacob!? Arrrhghgh not fair!!!!

Come on, it's like no one in the game can just be heterosexual anymore. Geez louise.


I can't argue with most of what you're saying here, but with Jack... I've known a lot of freaky chicks, and I've never seen one that was covered in tatoos, shaved her head, had been an abused child, and had never messed around with another girl.  Also, Jack gives her bio - and right after she escaped Cerberus she was taken in and taken to bed by a couple, implying that she has had some experience of naked time with another female.

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Naltair wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.


He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.

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jlb524 wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

Play through. Don't pursue the relationship. End the game. Look back. Justify the lack of relationship as a result of her having no interest in humans.

In all honesty I don't think she has any interest in alien species. She has an interest in Shepard. That's vastly different than having an interest in humans of that sort.

Sort of like the idea of a woman that likes men, but that "one" woman she likes in the same way as the men. She doesn't like other women in that manner, just the one. I find the result similar. It's not about the race or gender, it's about "that person."


Nooooo!!  I can't think that hard about....stuff like that!!!

Tali can't be 'human-liking' just for Shepard.  It goes against the universe...or something.


There's only one possible, reasonable, response to this negative stimuli. Buy an island, preferably with a volcano. Hire henchmen. Make lab. Gain title mad scientist. Create death ray. Hold the world at ransom.

I'm not sure how this actually helps, but it'd be really entertaining.

Naltair wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

They do get a brief moment, or so I've heard.

That being said, not every woman in the game need be bisexual.


Not every woman in the game is Bisexual.

Also true, I think in the end this is a hot button issue and there is no tidy resolution but I stand by my statements that:

1) it isn't in game currently as a "complete" romance option for females, maybe flirting I guess but nothing more.

2) It does not really matter in the large scheme of things but I doubt a rewrite of any official capacity in the works.


I thought you were getting ice cream?

ERJAK1 wrote...

Naltair wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those
relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post
toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to
mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali
for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and
armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.


He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


I think I'd rather go to a bar with him. Or shoot things with him. Shooting things with him was fun.

Modifié par Janan Pacha, 01 février 2010 - 03:30 .


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Modifié par Janan Pacha, 01 février 2010 - 03:30 .


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Kyero wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

since when did Tali dislike humans? or do you mean something diffrent


I'm not saying she dislikes humans.   It just doesn't make sense that she'd want to romance one.


didn't make sense to me that a Asari and a Krogan could hook up. Not to mention the Quarian on Illium who dated SEVERAL humans.


The Asari can breed with anyone, they're not held back by such petty things as gender and physical form...mostly...though the quarian was odd...I think they put it in there specificaly for Talimance.

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ERJAK1 wrote...

Naltair wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.


He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


So for you, a love interest needs to be a neurotic alien? A nice guy wouldn't make a good love interest? Wouldn't make the best love interest in the long run? Please don't breed.

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jlb524 wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

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who here wants this to happen, I thought it was so lame this option wasn't available in this game, it seems like they almost included it because Tali does do some flirting with femshep  but doesnt go any further,


Please no :(


I agree.  Tali shouldn't be a romance option PERIOD.

I liked her when she was strictly platonic friends with Shepard.


She still is if you played it like that. This is an RPG. What is, is, and is due to a result of your actions and interactions. If you did the nono with everyone's favorite Masked Lady it's your own fault. Those things don't just fall in you know.


But the option is still there and it bothers me.  It's out of character!!!!  Tali shouldn't be into humans.


Out of character? Are you crazy or did you just ignore every piece of evidence that Shepard is the most important person in Tali's life regardless of relationships.

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uberman409 wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Naltair wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.


He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


So for you, a love interest needs to be a neurotic alien? A nice guy wouldn't make a good love interest? Wouldn't make the best love interest in the long run? Please don't breed.


Actually, you see that a lot in real people. "That person, they're nice . . . but that 'other' person . . . wow, they aren't nice, and I'm fairly sure they're somewhat nuts . . . but hey, at least they aren't boring. Nice can be so boring."

Follow?

No, it doesn't make sense.

It's not supposed to make sense.

Nothing involving relationships ever ends up making as much sense as you think it should.

Modifié par Janan Pacha, 01 février 2010 - 03:47 .


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ERJAK1 wrote...



He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


funny lots of people think Tali is just a friend character too =\\

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Janan Pacha wrote...

uberman409 wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Naltair wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.


He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


So for you, a love interest needs to be a neurotic alien? A nice guy wouldn't make a good love interest? Wouldn't make the best love interest in the long run? Please don't breed.


Actually, you see that a lot in real people. "That person, they're nice . . . but that 'other' person . . . wow, they aren't nice, and I'm fairly sure they're somewhat nuts . . . but hey, at least they are boring. Nice can be so boring."

Follow?

No, it doesn't make sense.

It's not supposed to make sense.

Nothing involving relationships ever ends up making as much sense as you think it should.


But it's also extremely stupid. I can understand it IRL, if you're actually in love, but for your character in a video game I don't see how it would be all that bad. O_o

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uberman409 wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Naltair wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

males get one Alien relationship.

females get TWO alien relationships, female shepard in unfair imo.


Those relationships SUCK!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!! Thane is post toasties(dead) in 8-12 months and Garrus is horribly disfigured. Not to mention a turian, his skin is hard as rock and jagged! I'd trade Tali for every femshep romance and a good chunk of the side missions and armor.

What about Jacob, he seems actually cool.


He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


So for you, a love interest needs to be a neurotic alien? A nice guy wouldn't make a good love interest? Wouldn't make the best love interest in the long run? Please don't breed.


F*** you, first of all. Second off, that was me being polite for people who like him as a character. But since you were such a pain in the A** about it here we go.

Jacob is a whiny boring little B**** who's completely incapable of doing anything but bowing his head and saying yes ma'am. He's weak stupid and useless. He can't lead a team without dieing and if it weren't completely impossible for any team member to fail bringing the crew back, he'd fail there too.

Beyond all that he's BORING he says nothing worth listening to the whole game...except for when you find out his fathers a megalomaniac serial rapist. That's a great story to tell the kids huh. "Well your grandpa made people eat toxic plants and then raped them or killed them, or both."

He's scum.

The only reason you would have reacted to such a mild criticism like that is either A) you are just that much against a female option or B) You're a fan of his character. If it's B,  hope you like it.

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OH! I MADE THE FANGIRL ANGRY! INTERNET IS SRSBSNS!



I suggest that you never go to 4Chan. They would eat you up.



I have nothing to respond to, as I win.

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Kyero wrote...

ERJAK1 wrote...



He's just kinda blah. He's a nice guy but that's about the whole of his character. More of a good buddy than an LI.


funny lots of people think Tali is just a friend character too =\\\\


And that's fine, doesn't bother me. I want her to be a love interest and am disappointed, others want jacob to be a love interest and are quite happy. 

If jacob wasn't an LI, I'd bet you'd here complaints too.