Ok so they wipe races out for resources and stuff I guess? But why do they need to build more reapers if they can already do it? Do they want to do what they do faster? Are they building reapers for a bigger cause? And dont give me the Sovereign "You could not comprehend something told to you in your own languge" kind of deal.
I think that in the first Mass Effect the writes havent come up with a story yet and they just throw that **** at you because they cant think of anything.
So what is the reapers goal in wiping everything out every so often?
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:48
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the reapers harvest organics for their biomass (which they use to construct new reapers, since they're not entirely synthetic after all), and it takes 50,000 years for enough biomass to develop to make a decent number of reapers. It's their method of reproduction
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:48
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I think ME3 will reveal all that. Maybe they(the reapers) are fighting an unseen and even more devastating enemy hence they need the resources? I don't know but that sounds ridiculous.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:51
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Dellingr wrote...
the reapers harvest organics for their biomass (which they use to construct new reapers, since they're not entirely synthetic after all), and it takes 50,000 years for enough biomass to develop to make a decent number of reapers. It's their method of reproduction
Yeah I know that but why do they need to make more?
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:53
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My take on it so far is that the Reapers use this as their method of reproduction. Considering the revelation of the 'many minds one will' of the Reapers, they probably harvest only what they consider to be the best races into a new Reaper, which appears to be something of an expression of each race.
Its akin to selective breeding, they look for the best stock in order to reproduce.
Its akin to selective breeding, they look for the best stock in order to reproduce.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:54
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Fabler4 wrote...
Why do we need to make more humans?
Because we die.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:54
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Flacracker wrote...
Dellingr wrote...
the reapers harvest organics for their biomass (which they use to construct new reapers, since they're not entirely synthetic after all), and it takes 50,000 years for enough biomass to develop to make a decent number of reapers. It's their method of reproduction
Yeah I know that but why do they need to make more?
Why do humans need to make more humans, we just do.
Aslo the Reapers see it as doing organics a favor, they believe what they are doing is right and it's the best thing that can ever happen to organics.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 01:55
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SithLordExarKun wrote...
I think ME3 will reveal all that. Maybe they(the reapers) are fighting an unseen and even more devastating enemy hence they need the resources? I don't know but that sounds ridiculous.
I demand Mass Effect 3 be long and intense and you meet up with your old allys, and tie in the loose ends. I hear we will be dying in the final Mass Effect 3. As Bioware put it his story has to come to an end, believe he will do some heroic thing in Mass Effect defeating the repeaers and saving the galaxy
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:05
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The Reapers use organics to reproduce, because they wish to reproduce.
I think that possibly, the Reapers take on the form of whatever creature they believe to be the best in the time they wake up in.
The Protheans might have been that race, seeing as the statues on Ilos have the Protheans looking like squidfaces, and the Reapers look pretty squid-like.
I think that possibly, the Reapers take on the form of whatever creature they believe to be the best in the time they wake up in.
The Protheans might have been that race, seeing as the statues on Ilos have the Protheans looking like squidfaces, and the Reapers look pretty squid-like.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:06
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I hope we don't "die" in the end of the trilogy, i like the fact that in ME2 you could make sure nobody dies in the last mission and they better not blow that in the next game.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:07
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The reapers do seem fairly pretty in Mass Effect 2. Their plan to invade through the citadel relay was thwarted by a human and the human fleet, so they have their collector pawns build a "human" reaper to be sovereigns replacement and activate the relay, in a way forcing the humans to be the ones to bring about the purge. Doesn't seem like something a machine would do. Of course EDI says, the reapers resemble the life form they are made from, yet all the other reapers look the same. Implying that all existing reapers came from one race, or they are constructed differently when the entire fleet harvests the galaxy. So the construction of a human reaper seems to just be a giant FU to humans for stopping the activation of the relay.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:08
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There has to be a different motive to wipe out everything besides for reproducing. Soverign didn't say that we wouldn't understand for a reason.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:10
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So does anyone remember that Mordin specifically has a convo with us on his loyalty mission about how humans, out of all species, are by far the most genetically diverse?
..I find that probably has something to do with reapers choosing us to be new DNA pureed goo for their larvae. /shudder.
..I find that probably has something to do with reapers choosing us to be new DNA pureed goo for their larvae. /shudder.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:11
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My guess is that the Reapers are designed to prevent anyone in the galaxy from reaching technological singularity. It might be the case that invariably, a consequence of the singularity involves the destruction of the galaxy or even the universe.
I think this is why Harbinger says that our destruction is our salvation.
I think this is why Harbinger says that our destruction is our salvation.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:11
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I think ME1 hinted the things that were going to happen in ME2. Remember sovereign saying "we are each a nation"? It gets confirmed in the second game.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:11
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ajlueke wrote...
The reapers do seem fairly pretty in Mass Effect 2. Their plan to invade through the citadel relay was thwarted by a human and the human fleet, so they have their collector pawns build a "human" reaper to be sovereigns replacement and activate the relay, in a way forcing the humans to be the ones to bring about the purge. Doesn't seem like something a machine would do. Of course EDI says, the reapers resemble the life form they are made from, yet all the other reapers look the same. Implying that all existing reapers came from one race, or they are constructed differently when the entire fleet harvests the galaxy. So the construction of a human reaper seems to just be a giant FU to humans for stopping the activation of the relay.
The all the reapers look the same(well a little bit) is because that is just the outside shell. The human part is the inside.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:13
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I think that they probably think they're doing the galaxy some kind of favor by culling all advanced sentient races every so often. Either by strengthening their numbers to protect from some outside force like another person suggested, or by making sure that the galaxy isn't overly taxed by the resource demands of such widespread and technologically advanced beings. Though, the latter seems unlikely seeing as Vigil clearly states that the Reapers stripped many worlds of their resources during each extinction event.
In the end, your guess is as good as mine.
In the end, your guess is as good as mine.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:14
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Flacracker wrote...
Fabler4 wrote...
Why do we need to make more humans?
Because we die.
Reapers can die.
Ex: Sovereign, Derelict Reaper
It's just natural instinct to reproduce. They are part organic after all
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:15
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FoFoZem wrote...
Flacracker wrote...
Fabler4 wrote...
Why do we need to make more humans?
Because we die.
Reapers can die.
Ex: Sovereign, Derelict Reaper
It's just natural instinct to reproduce. They are part organic after all
They were killed.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:20
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This is a very intriguing idea.Empiro wrote...
My guess is that the Reapers are designed to prevent anyone in the galaxy from reaching technological singularity. It might be the case that invariably, a consequence of the singularity involves the destruction of the galaxy or even the universe.
I think this is why Harbinger says that our destruction is our salvation.
If this is true, it would surely explain many things. The Quarian's dying star that we found had dark matter put into its core. And the dying star that the Illusive Man is sitting in front of. Perhaps humans have progressed enough technologically to possess enough power to destroy stars and maybe everyone along with it and the Repears are simply trying to stop this. Could the ME3 ending be a twist? Are we the actual enemies and the Reapers are the heros? Will Sheppard have to make a choice to destroy the human race or let the entire Universe die?
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:22
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Empiro wrote...
My guess is that the Reapers are designed to prevent anyone in the galaxy from reaching technological singularity. It might be the case that invariably, a consequence of the singularity involves the destruction of the galaxy or even the universe.
I think this is why Harbinger says that our destruction is our salvation.
I can't possibly think why I'd infer that directly from Harbinger's antagonizing lines for us..
First off do I think reapers might have their own MO for turning us into puree, yes. And how grand of them to put the bow on top and say its for our own good. Sovereign's little chats with us pretty much assured to us that hey we're the ants and he's the god. But as far as I see it that doesn't grant them with a superior morality in my book. If anything I can guess that they're so long lived and driven for the single purpose of destroying organics to make milkshake babies that they are insane and to never trust anything they say regarding how we will ultimately benefit by being said milkshake. Screw that.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:26
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Flacracker wrote...
Dellingr wrote...
the reapers harvest organics for their biomass (which they use to construct new reapers, since they're not entirely synthetic after all), and it takes 50,000 years for enough biomass to develop to make a decent number of reapers. It's their method of reproduction
Yeah I know that but why do they need to make more?
why do people need to make more people?
all successful life is ultimately successful because it makes more of itself, reproduction and evolution are how life survives
also, when sovvie tells us "it's beyond your comprehension", bear in mind that it seems like an exceedingly arrogant being-and we know that reapers like to scare their prey and make them suffer-mordin mentions this about the way the collectors were made
Could well be Sovvie trying to seem mysterious, it also led us to believe it was entirely synthetic and we now know that to be untrue, why not other stuff it said
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:28
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My theory : The Reapers seek to reproduce, This is a common goal for all living entities, Without reproduction there is only stagnation - even for immortal races - think of the as V'ger from Star Trek the motion picture.
The problem is that so far The Reapers have been unsuccessful at finding any race who could be made into Reapers, Even the Protheons were unsuited for Reaperhood (for some unknown reason)
So the Reapers goes on a killing spree every 50.000 years until the galaxy finally produce a race who can be made into Reapers, And now they have found it - and of cause it's humans.
The problem is that so far The Reapers have been unsuccessful at finding any race who could be made into Reapers, Even the Protheons were unsuited for Reaperhood (for some unknown reason)
So the Reapers goes on a killing spree every 50.000 years until the galaxy finally produce a race who can be made into Reapers, And now they have found it - and of cause it's humans.
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Posté 01 février 2010 - 02:28
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If there's anyone who knows enough of the Warhammer 40,000 universe they would understand what the Reapers are doing, they are harvesters as much as the Necrons are in WH40K, sans the "we're doing this in the name of the C'Tan" part, the Reapers are they own Gods so to speak, they don't "do it for another more powerful and higher entity" but they do it for themselves, in the end both the Reapers and the Necrons are harvesters.
That means... well, it's simple, it's harvesting, you let your harvest grow up until there's enough to harvest it, but at the end you ALWAYS leave just enough traces of "life" (even if just to the point of bacteria) to let it grow again after millions upon millions of years (in the case of the Necrons) or upon thousands of thousands of years (in the case of the Reapers). The Necrons in WH40K are doing it for their C'Tan Gods whose purpose is to nourish themselves with the "essence" or "soul" of the life that was taken by their Necrons army under the mortal form that they harvest in their Dark Crusades, the Necrons themselves don't directly benefit from "killing", they are simply the "machinery" used to do the harvesting job.
In the case of the Reapers they probably do it just because "they can" and not because "they have to", they don't "eat" by harvesting, but leaving forms of life to mature and grow up after their invasions by itself consists of an harvest even if their actual goal isn't to eat or anything, in fact their point of harvest may well have to do with perpetual knowledge enhancements, if each time they invade the Milky Way and subdue / enslave / assimilate / learn from the millions of races and cultures and sciences they confront and defeat then they inevitably become more intelligent, capable, numerous (maybe) each time they do it.
That means... well, it's simple, it's harvesting, you let your harvest grow up until there's enough to harvest it, but at the end you ALWAYS leave just enough traces of "life" (even if just to the point of bacteria) to let it grow again after millions upon millions of years (in the case of the Necrons) or upon thousands of thousands of years (in the case of the Reapers). The Necrons in WH40K are doing it for their C'Tan Gods whose purpose is to nourish themselves with the "essence" or "soul" of the life that was taken by their Necrons army under the mortal form that they harvest in their Dark Crusades, the Necrons themselves don't directly benefit from "killing", they are simply the "machinery" used to do the harvesting job.
In the case of the Reapers they probably do it just because "they can" and not because "they have to", they don't "eat" by harvesting, but leaving forms of life to mature and grow up after their invasions by itself consists of an harvest even if their actual goal isn't to eat or anything, in fact their point of harvest may well have to do with perpetual knowledge enhancements, if each time they invade the Milky Way and subdue / enslave / assimilate / learn from the millions of races and cultures and sciences they confront and defeat then they inevitably become more intelligent, capable, numerous (maybe) each time they do it.
