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[Thor Rand Al]

This is just an out of curiosity poll to actually see how many people who've played the human noble origin, who've made themselves Queen/King, n who did the ritual who would like to have in a future expansion/game the ability to have a child with Alistair/Anora or to even hear that it was possible? 
I'd be happy just hearing that Alistair n his new bride where able to concieve n where joyously awaiting their new arrival...
I know with the taint you wouldn't be able to see the child possibly grow up n you def wouldn't be able to see great grandkids but it would be nice to see it lol

I know wishful thinking  but I am curious about who else might have similiar thoughts.

[TheBlackBaron]

I've done all the origins, but Human Noble remains my favorite because of how well it slots in with the rest of the story (on the same subject, while I did like the two Elf origins I can't for the life of me understand the massive popularity).

I plan on taking the rogue I made and having her set out to be queen, but I'd rather kids and that sort of things be kept in the background to avoid turning this into a soap opera or the Sims.

EDIT: Also, you can utterly subvert the formerly ironclad law of nature that a Grey Warden must die to permanetly kill the Archdemon. So it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we get an option to do the same with the effects of the taint thirty years down the road.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 01 février 2010 - 01:59 .

[Joshd21]

I completed all the noble quests, expect for a dwarf. I just can't bring myself to play that little guy after Morrgian mocked Orgen for being small. But I did make myself to be called Anora's Regent, she didn't use the word King and she said they would talk about role I would play

Honestly, I'd be thrilled to be in the expansion. The cut secnes open up and you can see me as King with Anora by my side opening up as we have a start up into the game. Being a King could provide alot of options for you to do..you could command people...build up treatys with people..and figure out who to go to war with..throw in a little beyrtral and blood lust, and some

monsters, we got ourselfs a great game. Though I know my marriage to anora will be twisted in the game to being meaningless, and I will find myself suddenly like a poof with a magic wand just like that to be playing as a regular grey warden...I feel thats a bit tacky

Oh well, I will have wait for fable 3 to experience being king

[TheBlackBaron]

See, that's why I don't think you being king or queen can really play that big of a role in Awakening, and why BioWare makes your official title Regent or Princess-Consort. You gotta follow the plot and conflict laid out otherwise there's not much point in having it in the first place.



I mean, I expect there will be dialogue differences depending on your background and ending - for example, as a male Cousland, your brother is now the Teyern that rules over your brand spanking new arling, so that should be recognized - but I doubt there will be much in the way of gameplay differences.

[Alyka]

I would like for my female human noble PC to be able to have a child with Alistair.
To thicken the plot, she would die during childbirth and the child would be something of an anomaly....

A child born to two Grey Wardens who naturally has the gift to sense and defeat darkspawn and whose blood can cure those who are infected. Or some other special ability. I haven't thought it all the way through. lol

Modifié par Alyka, 01 février 2010 - 02:27 .

[ejoslin]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

This is just an out of curiosity poll to actually see how many people who've played the human noble origin, who've made themselves Queen/King, n who did the ritual who would like to have in a future expansion/game the ability to have a child with Alistair/Anora or to even hear that it was possible? 
I'd be happy just hearing that Alistair n his new bride where able to concieve n where joyously awaiting their new arrival...
I know with the taint you wouldn't be able to see the child possibly grow up n you def wouldn't be able to see great grandkids but it would be nice to see it lol

I know wishful thinking  but I am curious about who else might have similiar thoughts.

Well, I've done HNF a few times, and I've always made her queen, but not something she wanted, but because she felt it was her duty to Ferelden.  She'd far rather marry her true love, but Ferelden needed a strong ruler and Anora was too power hungry so she put duty before her own desires. I'd love for her to have a baby, but it wouldn't be Alistair's (heh, not YOUR heir selected each time) even though I would imagine it would be acknowledged as Alistair's.  

See, even with an ending this specific, there are so many ways it could play out.  I just don't see how they could make it work.

[Addai]

Yes I want the next king to be Duncan Theirin, son of the Hero of Ferelden. I demand it, in fact.

[RangerSG]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

See, that's why I don't think you being king or queen can really play that big of a role in Awakening, and why BioWare makes your official title Regent or Princess-Consort. You gotta follow the plot and conflict laid out otherwise there's not much point in having it in the first place.

I mean, I expect there will be dialogue differences depending on your background and ending - for example, as a male Cousland, your brother is now the Teyern that rules over your brand spanking new arling, so that should be recognized - but I doubt there will be much in the way of gameplay differences.

You do realize that Maric went running off to aid the Grey Wardens in "The Calling," right? It's something of a standing tradition of Ferelden royalty to be off campaigning and let someone else rule.

Which is, to be honest, rather historical.

[TheBlackBaron]

RangerSG wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

See, that's why I don't think you being king or queen can really play that big of a role in Awakening, and why BioWare makes your official title Regent or Princess-Consort. You gotta follow the plot and conflict laid out otherwise there's not much point in having it in the first place.

I mean, I expect there will be dialogue differences depending on your background and ending - for example, as a male Cousland, your brother is now the Teyern that rules over your brand spanking new arling, so that should be recognized - but I doubt there will be much in the way of gameplay differences.

You do realize that Maric went running off to aid the Grey Wardens in "The Calling," right? It's something of a standing tradition of Ferelden royalty to be off campaigning and let someone else rule.

Which is, to be honest, rather historical.

That was actually exactly my point. You won't be doing much ruling or really any sort of kingly things at all, just what you'd normally be doing in your role as the Warden Commander.

[artifact]

Alister is just my puppet -- the Cousland royal heir will be elf-blooded. I even warned Alister about it }. Never leave the cemeting of your power via an heir to a questionably fertile man.

[EthanDirtch]

So far I've only done one Cousland origin: male warrior (~points at avatar pic~). And in this one I chose to sacrifice myself. I do plan to play through DA:O as a nefarious male rouge Cousland that ends up being King, and a stern female warrior (shield) Cousland that becomes Queen. But both of them will have to wait awhile; I've still yet to do the Dalish Elf origin, and the two Dwarf origins. >_>



I do hope that my Marus (who sacrificed himself) will get some mention, assuming of course it's possible to carry-over his playthrough into DA:A and beyond. Maybe something like, "Oh, you're the new Warden? You got some big shoes to fill! The last one saved all of Ferelden he did!"



I think any storyline involving both Morrigan's child, and/or Alistair's own children, will likely happen in a proper--full--sequel that takes place a couple decades or so after DA:O. The storylines involving the continued Theiren bloodline, and Morrigan's "god child" are too ripe to pass up by the writers, I think. Of course, it'd also be cool to have a game where you take on a squire of sorts. Maybe even two. One from Morrigan, and one from Alistair, depending on story decisions in DA:O. Sort of like an invincible (during play controlled combat, not story elements) sidekick/pack mule/servant boy or girl "Ser, can I polish your armor, ser?" "Ser, I've found some more elfroot like you've asked!" "Ser, can we rest now? I'm tired from carrying Shale."

[Thor Rand Al]

EthanDirtch wrote...

So far I've only done one Cousland origin: male warrior (~points at avatar pic~). And in this one I chose to sacrifice myself. I do plan to play through DA:O as a nefarious male rouge Cousland that ends up being King, and a stern female warrior (shield) Cousland that becomes Queen. But both of them will have to wait awhile; I've still yet to do the Dalish Elf origin, and the two Dwarf origins. >_>

I do hope that my Marus (who sacrificed himself) will get some mention, assuming of course it's possible to carry-over his playthrough into DA:A and beyond. Maybe something like, "Oh, you're the new Warden? You got some big shoes to fill! The last one saved all of Ferelden he did!"

I think any storyline involving both Morrigan's child, and/or Alistair's own children, will likely happen in a proper--full--sequel that takes place a couple decades or so after DA:O. The storylines involving the continued Theiren bloodline, and Morrigan's "god child" are too ripe to pass up by the writers, I think. Of course, it'd also be cool to have a game where you take on a squire of sorts. Maybe even two. One from Morrigan, and one from Alistair, depending on story decisions in DA:O. Sort of like an invincible (during play controlled combat, not story elements) sidekick/pack mule/servant boy or girl "Ser, can I polish your armor, ser?" "Ser, I've found some more elfroot like you've asked!" "Ser, can we rest now? I'm tired from carrying Shale."

lmfao That's just too damn funny but cruel, she'd crush the servant lmao

[TheBlackBaron]

Not if you get her memories back and she regains her natural dwarf form. Then we can have amusing tributes to LotR wherein the squire is forced to toss her into battle.

[Thor Rand Al]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Not if you get her memories back and she regains her natural dwarf form. Then we can have amusing tributes to LotR wherein the squire is forced to toss her into battle.

[errant_knight]

I wouldn't. myself, as children are always the kiss of death on story/character development in pretty much any media. I'd rather the focus stayed primarily on action/adventure with a side of romance. The story should continue to be about saving the world, rather than family and child rearing. I think the lack of an heir will eventually come into play, though, as I think it's significant that none of the potential rulers are fertile.

Modifié par errant_knight, 01 février 2010 - 06:55 .

[TheBlackBaron]

errant_knight wrote...

I wouldn't. myself, as children are always the kiss of death on story/character development in pretty much any media. I'd rather the focus stayed primarily on action/adventure with a side of romance. The story should continue to be about saving the world, rather than family and child rearing. I think the lack of an heir will eventually come into play, though, as I think it's significant thaat none of the potential rulers are fertile.

Agreed.

[Thor Rand Al]

errant_knight wrote...

I wouldn't. myself, as children are always the kiss of death on story/character development in pretty much any media. I'd rather the focus stayed primarily on action/adventure with a side of romance. The story should continue to be about saving the world, rather than family and child rearing. I think the lack of an heir will eventually come into play, though, as I think it's significant that none of the potential rulers are fertile.

I kinda have to agree with you there but if they decide not to have your character added in another expansion to where you can play them then there should be a reason, for example The new queen is back in Denerim waiting for expected child... If I can't play my character I want a happy ending lol n nothing would be sweeter than hearing that but thats just me lol...

[errant_knight]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I wouldn't. myself, as children are always the kiss of death on story/character development in pretty much any media. I'd rather the focus stayed primarily on action/adventure with a side of romance. The story should continue to be about saving the world, rather than family and child rearing. I think the lack of an heir will eventually come into play, though, as I think it's significant that none of the potential rulers are fertile.

I kinda have to agree with you there but if they decide not to have your character added in another expansion to where you can play them then there should be a reason, for example The new queen is back in Denerim waiting for expected child... If I can't play my character I want a happy ending lol n nothing would be sweeter than hearing that but thats just me lol...

Well, you're absolutely going to be able to play your PC, but it will be in a context where the ending you chose has only peripheral involvement, so the same story will work no matter what your ending was. I fully expect that there will be references that take your ending into account, but when you consider the number of possible endings, it's just not financially viable to create what would essentially be different, and mostly separate games to accomodate them. Any game will focus on the common elements, not the differences. That's not to say that your choices will be negated, just that they wont be central to the story.

[RobinMichelleB]

I think little hearts would literally start floating around my head if children were mentioned later on. I would love for Alistair and my human noble to have at least one. I mean, it's definitely not for lack of trying!

[Thor Rand Al]

RobinMichelleB wrote...

I think little hearts would literally start floating around my head if children were mentioned later on. I would love for Alistair and my human noble to have at least one. I mean, it's definitely not for lack of trying!

Lmao I so agree n yep definitely not for lack of trying... That was the best part of that dialogue after he brought the heir thing up

[Cazlee]

errant_knight wrote...

I wouldn't. myself, as children are always the kiss of death on story/character development in pretty much any media. I'd rather the focus stayed primarily on action/adventure with a side of romance. The story should continue to be about saving the world, rather than family and child rearing. I think the lack of an heir will eventually come into play, though, as I think it's significant that none of the potential rulers are fertile.

Good point, no babies until DA3...hehe.

Queen or no queen, I hope that eventually the female PC will have the opportunity to become a mother. Be her child's father another gray warden such as Alistair or a non-tainted romantic interest like Zevran... or something else. It would help to balance out the the fact that male PCs can have a baby with Morrigan (normal and old god baby), and that the dwarf prince gray warden can already be a father in DA:O.

[errant_knight]

Cazlee wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I wouldn't. myself, as children are always the kiss of death on story/character development in pretty much any media. I'd rather the focus stayed primarily on action/adventure with a side of romance. The story should continue to be about saving the world, rather than family and child rearing. I think the lack of an heir will eventually come into play, though, as I think it's significant that none of the potential rulers are fertile.

Good point, no babies until DA3...hehe.

Queen or no queen, I hope that eventually the female PC will have the opportunity to become a mother. Be her child's father another gray warden such as Alistair or a non-tainted romantic interest like Zevran... or something else. It would help to balance out the the fact that male PCs can have a baby with Morrigan (normal and old god baby), and that the dwarf prince gray warden can already be a father in DA:O.

Okay, I'll accept babies in a Morrigan type situation, where they disappear after conception and doen't reappear until puberty at a minimum.

[odiedragon]

Do I want it to happen?  Yes.  Very Yes.

Will it actually happen, in game?  Probably very much no.   Even though Wynne is alive at the end of the game (and stays at court in my HNF playthrough).  Even though you can keep Avernus alive to continue his work.  Even though it's been said that magic-induced conception is possible.  I think that the thought of trying magical means to conceive an heir will just be "forgotten" by everyone, kind of like no one suggests that Anora and Alistair marry unless the PC says something about it.  But this time, the devs won't give us the option to suggest a solution. 
And this is coming from the woman who has a placenta-based theory as to how Fiona is now taint free.   So I'm all about wacky theories.

It's sad too, because there's actual story potential here.  What if the answer was Wynne and Avernus working together?  Would Wynne be willing to even give him the time of day?!  Even with the stability of Fereden's future on the line?  Would Avernus be willing to get involved in such an endeavor?  Drama!  Angst!  Snippy dialog!  Sad Puppy Alistair trying to convince Wynne.  Silver-tongued Queen PC reminding Avernus that he owes her a debt for letting him live?

But no.  These things will only exist in my head,  unless I decide to write them down.  And then they get pushed into the questionable hole of fanfic.  Le Sigh. 

Modifié par odiedragon, 01 février 2010 - 05:04 .

[Airyle]

It seems to me that there are an aweful lot of female players for Dragonage. It also seems to me that bioware employees are very active in these forums. DA:O I think was a good start to being aware of the sort of things that female players would enjoy:



-A happy ending

-Not sharing our men

-The hope for children (or the option to never ever ever have kids)

Good looking light armor that doesn't look like my female rogue is cold all the time (ok I put that one in for myself since I like being a rogue so much)

-A chance to pull all of Morrigan's hair out (come on! the guys want a girl fight too!)



I have a lot of faith that future installments will probably have more girl friendly options/endings.

[ejoslin]

I actually LIKE the Morrigan choice. I also like the fact that even the happy endings are a bit shaded. I love that the flavor of the game is different depending on whether you're playing a male or female PC. I like that you can play this game as a horrible tragedy or one of hope.



In truth, I would have been disappointed had the choices at the end been easy and if there weren't tradeoffs. I can't be the only woman gamer who prefers it this way. There are a couple of options for fairy tale romance endings here, but even they have their shades of darkness.



To me, Morrigan's ritual is not about sharing one's man as it is about creating . . . something . . . You can have your white knight even if you can't marry him (unless HNF or if you don't make him king), but it comes at a cost.