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[AdamNW]

This thread will be used as information to ensure everyone survives the suicide mission at the end of the game.  Input is greatly appreciated.

*Denotes that this requires confirmation

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Stage 1: The Ventilation Shaft
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Your squad will be split into two teams.  The first team is Shepard and two squad mates.  These squad mates will survive no matter what you decide.  The second team is a group of 6 (7 if you have Zaeed), led by one person of your choice.  The final team is one "tech specialist," whose job is to unlock the doors allowing access to the next area.

The tech specialist can be any of the following: Tali, Jacob, Thane, Garrus, Legion, and Miranda*.  Keep in mind that if this person is not confident in his or her abilities (or this person is not loyal), they will die at the end of this stage.  So far, Tali and Legion are confirmed to survive this stage as the Tech specialist.

The group of six is to be led by a person who is not the Tech Specialist.  If this person is not a good leader (or is not loyal), he or she will cause the Tech Specialist to die at the end of this stage, no matter who it is. Miranda, Jacob, and Garrus are the only confirmed leaders to allow the survival of the Tech Specialist.  Possible death of this person is currently unknown, but loyalty should play a part in their survival.

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Stage 2: The Normandy, The Distraction, and the Seekers
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After clearing the first stage, you find the Normandy crew.  You can choose to send them back to the Normandy, or focus on the mission.  The latter will most certainly cause the death of the crew*, but the former requires you to send one of your squad mates back to the Normandy.  This person can be anyone you choose, but if they are not loyal they will die while escorting the team back (some of the crew will die as well*).

Much like the first stage, your team will be split into two.  The first team is Shepard, two squad mates (Who will always survive*), and a "Biotic Specialist".  This person generates a biotic barrier to protect your squad from the seekers in this area.  You can choose from Samara, Jacob, Jack, Miranda, and Thane.  If this person's biotic powers are too weak (Or they are not loyal), they will die at the end of this stage*.  So far, only Samara and Jack are confirmed to survive this stage.

The other team will serve as a distraction for your team, and is made of of your remaining squad members.  Like the last stage, you will have a squad leader.  If this person is not a good leader (or isn't loyal), they will die at the end of this stage.  So far, Tali, Thane, Grunt, and Zaeed are confirmed to die, whereas Miranda and Garrus are confirmed to survive this stage as the squad leader.

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Stage 3: The Finale
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Shepard and 2 squad mates proceed into the center of the Collector base.  The remaining squad members will stay behind and distract the collectors for you.  Any character who is loyal will survive this mission*.

This is the only instance where your personal squad mates can die, at the end of the stage.  These deaths are currently not confirmed as character or loyalty specific, as more information is necessary.

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Other Notes
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People are reporting instances where Mordin dies for an unknown reason, despite being loyal to them.  To avoid this, put Mordin in your personal squad each time.

Modifié par AdamNW, 01 février 2010 - 02:09 .

[NKKKK]

Garrus makes a good squad leader

[Nefarious Ninja]

I've heard Mordin died randomly in other peoples playthroughs as well as mine(even if he was loyal), I'd suggest putting him in your squad while defeating the final boss, just for assurance he won't die.

[krol146]

I can confirm that Jacob is a good enough squad leader for the first section.

[Knight725]

I had Mordin die during the finale section, but my whole team was loyal. Still dunno what caused it.

[AdamNW]

He was never in my squad, never a specialist, and never a leader, but he survived for me. I'll put that in there anyway.

[Irensesvox]

Jack also can hold up the biotic barrier without problems.

[Marco_Alberts]

I had Jack survive as the biotic specialist.



However, I've seen it where after the fight with the human reaper, a player's team died due to the fall.

[AdamNW]

Marco_Alberts wrote...

However, I've seen it where after the fight with the human reaper, a player's team died due to the fall.

I need more info.  Which characters, and were they loyal?  I had both Garrus and Tali survive this, and they were both loyal.

[Nite77]

I used Jack for the barrier also and she didn't die.

The only one I couldn't save was Legion in the vent. (Everyone but Miranda was Loyal. I don't know how to keep them ALL loyal).



I used Zaeed as the leader every time so "So far, Tali, Thane, Grunt, and Zaeed are confirmed to die" didn't hold true for me. Zaeed survived ok.

[AdamNW]

rofl I just noticed there was another thread for this.



Ignore permanently.

[Chimerical Man]

Based on observing the "I survived" thread, only one thing appears off with the list presently. Mordin seems to die occasionally when not in Shepard's squad facing the reaper.



This happened to me when all characters were loyal, Tali was my specialist, Garrus the leader both times, Jacob leading the crew to the ship, and Samara being the biotic specialist. Some suggest that having Mordin escort the crew or having him fight the reaper with you avert this death...provided he is loyal.

[sp8cemonkey83]

To my understanding, if you don't hit the Omega 4 Relay right after the Reaper IFF Mission (with the exception of Legion's Loyalty Mission) that crew members start dying. This ALSO APPEARS to affect if Mordin lives or dies.



During my first attempt --- my entire squad was loyal, all Normandy and Squad Member upgrades were purchased but I hit the relay late and only Chakwas survived. Mordin was my only squadmate that didn't make it.



I am trying to confirm this (ie. I've gone back to a save prior to the Reaper IFF mission) and will let you guys know if this is true.

[Amplias]

if you make the leader grunt of the team, and choose legion to be the tech specials, legion dies.

[Crysis I]

heres how i done it with everyone surviving. (with zaeed) all my squad were loyal except jack.



First part: the 2nd squad leader was garrus and tali went through the vent while i took miranda and grunt with me.



Second part: miranda was leader for 2nd team and i used samara for the biotic barrier and had thane and grunt with me while Tali escorted the doc and kelly back to the normandy.



Third Part: garrus was leader and me,miranda and grunt fought the reaper. no one died

[EJon]

This guide isn't exactly accurate. I had Jacob as tech specialist, and Garrus as 2nd squads leader. Both were loyal, and Jacob still died. Fortunately. But still, your wrong about that.

[newcomplex]

*Shepard and 2 squad mates proceed into the center of the Collector base. The remaining squad members will stay behind and distract the collectors for you. Any character who is loyal will survive this mission*

That isn't true. Certain characters will never die regardless of loyalty (Zaeed), and if you have more then 5 loyal members staying to defend, nobody will die, even if they aren't loyal.

For instance, I had a game where zaeed and legion were not loyal, and neither of them died.     But once I took one loyal member out of that group (into my party), their was a death.   I don't know what causes the death, I've had jack, samara and legion die, but I know for a fact (no matter how much I try to, Zaeed will not die )

I think HP or upgrades may be a factor.   

Modifié par newcomplex, 01 février 2010 - 02:30 .

[Dante Lucef]

Is death in the final section random? I had legion (not loyal) stay behind as I fought the reaper. When I radioed to my other people, I saw legion get killed in the background... with that ALWAYS happen, or can I just replay it again, til he survives? I need tips >.<

[Amplias]

Chimerical Man wrote...

Based on observing the "I survived" thread, only one thing appears off with the list presently. Mordin seems to die occasionally when not in Shepard's squad facing the reaper.

This happened to me when all characters were loyal, Tali was my specialist, Garrus the leader both times, Jacob leading the crew to the ship, and Samara being the biotic specialist. Some suggest that having Mordin escort the crew or having him fight the reaper with you avert this death...provided he is loyal.

do it like this and mordin survives   

Tech spec- Tali
First squadleader- Garrus
your party- Legion, Thane

Second squad leader- The Cerberus woman, Miranda i'm pretty sure, can't remember but I 99% sure, because i remember hearing a woman's voice saying "while you slip in the back" and i was like, ooo ya.
Biotic- Jack
Your team- Garrus, Legion
Escort to ship- The Justicar

Final fight sequence
Personally i chose Garrus and Legion but this part doesn't matter, you can choose anyone i'm 90% sure, i did the sequence 5 times and choose different people each time and the final sequence never killed anyone extra. i'm not sure if anyone dies on the fall after tha human is dead, garrus and Legion don't die and neither does jacob and Miranda

Modifié par Amplias, 01 février 2010 - 02:57 .

[Amplias]

newcomplex wrote...


*Shepard and 2 squad mates proceed into the center of the Collector base. The remaining squad members will stay behind and distract the collectors for you. Any character who is loyal will survive this mission*

That isn't true. Certain characters will never die regardless of loyalty (Zaeed), and if you have more then 5 loyal members staying to defend, nobody will die, even if they aren't loyal.

For instance, I had a game where zaeed and legion were not loyal, and neither of them died.     But once I took one loyal member out of that group (into my party), their was a death.   I don't know what causes the death, I've had jack, samara and legion die, but I know for a fact (no matter how much I try to, Zaeed will not die )

I think HP or upgrades may be a factor.   

if you want Zaeed dead, make him leader of the first squad, he will get shot most people do, miranda did but she survived the shot, she ssaid "ow, i'm good"

[johnygoodman]

Dante Lucef wrote...

Is death in the final section random? I had legion (not loyal) stay behind as I fought the reaper. When I radioed to my other people, I saw legion get killed in the background... with that ALWAYS happen, or can I just replay it again, til he survives? I need tips >.<

I always see that as well, but when I continue after the end credits, Legion is fine and dandy. I guess someone used medigel.

[xxzxcuz_Me]

Ya Jack dies like that on me , So might try again on last mission and use her one time in my squad see if that changes .

[Proud Larry]

The very first time I did this, I was playing on Insanity from level one so I was somewhat weak in level (high 20s), did not have all status upgrades (but did have all ship upgrades), but had managed to do all loyalty quests and retain all loyalty during crew conflicts by having enough Paragon points to choose Paragon options (I bet Renegade options work too).

I chose Legion as tech specialist because I felt we needed hacking speed of a synthetic, not ingenuity of a Quarian. Note that I did not know there were multiple correct answers here at the time. I picked Garrus as team leader because that way there would be no conflict with Miranda leading Jack, and because Garrus told me stories about leading his band of vigilantes and it sounded like he was a good commander until he was betrayed. Then I picked Samara for my biotic barrier because she has experience protecting people and using powerful biotics. I chose Garrus to lead the secondary squad again and I chose Grunt to escort the crew back to the Normandy because he's both durable and strong.

Mordin was the only one who died, randomly shown to have died while holding the door during my final boss fight.

The achievement for beating the game on Insanity from the start completed, so I decided to reload before the final mission and turn the difficulty down. I made the exact same choices I had made the first time (when Mordin died) only this time I completed the segments MUCH quicker due to the difficulty being lower. Everybody lived. So was there a randomness factor here, or was it due to my speed in completion?

Modifié par Proud Larry, 02 février 2010 - 09:49 .

[BoogieManFL]

Just in case it helps, this is how I did it and everyone survived (other than the Normandy crew, only Chakwas lived) In general I moved quickly and aggressively pushed on Collecter squads to put them down quickly. I had 100% exploration on all sectors (bought four maps) and I am pretty sure I got all the side missions.

All team mates were loyal.

Legion: Tech
Garus: 2nd team leader
Thane: Crew Escort
Samara: Biotic Barrier
Shepard's team each time: Tali and Miranda

Modifié par BoogieManFL, 02 février 2010 - 09:55 .