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[Mad Oreo 112091]

PathofDaggers wrote...

Arcian wrote...

PathofDaggers wrote...

What if the Reapers aren't the true threat?

Last thing we need is the sorting algorithm of evil to mess things up in ME.

Just saying, it seems too straight foreward. And after hearing the things Harbinger says, I started wondering if they were actually our only hope and salvation against something bigger. Not to mention a line I remember about the Reapers trying to make a prothean reaper but failed so they made the Protheans the Collectors. And yes, Sovereign does say he is the vanguard of our destruction, but Harbinger says that destruction is our only savlvation, then we find out he is using our lifes to create a human reaper. Our destruction was, in the end, the thing that was making use eternal, making us a Reaper. Why would they make a Reaper of what they wanted to extermenate? To me a Reaper seems a form of salvation. An ultimate warrior.

Well after hearing that I'm starting to think maybe I should have taken the ship for the Illusive Man at the end of the game. Maybe it was the only way we would be able to survive...I hope I didn't just destroy the galaxy by making that choice...but I just didn't trust the IM's judgment... let's hope I was right.

[Guaritor]

Indie Thompson wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

Three words: Leviathan of Dis.

That has to be the answer. That is the only thing i can think of.
Even with the Korgan united and the geth collective helping and the whole
council races with all of the fire-power..... It wont be enough.

We NEED Leviathan of Dis. Leviathan was probably the ship used to kill that
Reaper we had to go on board of.

On that note... while exploring 100% of the galaxy... i randomly decided to read one planets description... which randomly happened mentioned a MASSIVE canyon dug in the planet that wasn't from natural causes, but what appeared to be a mass accelerator slug skimming it...

Methinks something that can do that to a planet would just have a blast with the reapers (pun only somewhat intended).

Didnt TIM mention that they found a planet with massive crater and then traced the trajectory or something of the blast and found that disabled reaper. That would be the planet then, would it not.

now that you mention it... quite possibly...

[Corben158]

The repears could just have a status quo they need to keep, since humans killed a reaper they are deamed worthy enough to become one

Modifié par Corben158, 01 février 2010 - 04:28 .

[Indie Thompson]

Guaritor wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...

Three words: Leviathan of Dis.

That has to be the answer. That is the only thing i can think of.
Even with the Korgan united and the geth collective helping and the whole
council races with all of the fire-power..... It wont be enough.

We NEED Leviathan of Dis. Leviathan was probably the ship used to kill that
Reaper we had to go on board of.

On that note... while exploring 100% of the galaxy... i randomly decided to read one planets description... which randomly happened mentioned a MASSIVE canyon dug in the planet that wasn't from natural causes, but what appeared to be a mass accelerator slug skimming it...

Methinks something that can do that to a planet would just have a blast with the reapers (pun only somewhat intended).

Didnt TIM mention that they found a planet with massive crater and then traced the trajectory or something of the blast and found that disabled reaper. That would be the planet then, would it not.

now that you mention it... quite possibly...

Hehe, give me few days, i should be back at that point with my second playthrough so that i can confirm or deny that what i just wrote =)

[Chimerical Man]

Well, it is looking like Shepard's Reaper-slaying skills are increasing exponentially. In ME1, it took a cinematic space battle scene to kill Sovereign. In ME2, he finds out that he can kill Reapers by eh...shooting them in the heart lots and lots. He then found out that he can perform Reaper abortions by shooting them in the Optics.



Joking aside though, it will probably entail some vast and advanced technology that will be used to either equip the defense against the Reapers, or seal the Reapers from the universe altogether. That, or the more likely case of Bioware having a few tricks up its sleeve and surprising us. One thing though...I really, really hope the big decision at the end of the mission (destroying the facility or giving it to Illusive) has a big impact on ME3. I was kind of let down by the fact that the last and apparently enormous decision in ME1 (the Council's fate) had little direct impact on Shepard's story. I could not, in good conscience, let Illusive Man have the facility, but at the same time I can't help but think compensating for lost Reaper technology will be a galactic pain. Not to mention the retribution exacted by Illusive Man (at least, attempted retribution). I'm not so much worried about Shepard's safety as I am his squad mates', in that regard.

[Indie Thompson]

Corben158 wrote...

The repears could just have a status quo they need to keep, since humans killed a reaper they are deamed worthy enough to become one

That is what i was thinking. Just because we were that good they offer us the "honor" to become one of them, and thus saving us from extinction, in a way. But that doesnt mean that i would take that opportunity.

[Eradyn]

Whatever weapon took out that derelict reaper...that's what Shepard needs to find. I can't imagine even a unified galaxy would be able to amass enough fleets to take out all those reapers. An indirect method will need to be found.

[DigitalMaster37]

Primal Exile wrote...

Geth, United Krogan, Full Alliance, Drell, Hanar (I always knew they were up to trouble), Elcor, Rachni....

There is a massive army ready to fight the reapers. With Shepard leading the way the reapers have no chance! I actually feel sorry for them!

THIS^ , ME3 is going to be sooooo EPIC! All races and species united against this one threat. A space battle to end all space battles just to see the united species (council) come out on top with Shepherd leading the way. I  CAN'T WAIT!!!

[Corben158]

We still have only seen one dreadnoughts to, there's 70ish of them, I bet 2 could take a reaper on

[Aradin56]

Wrex riding a Nuclear Warhead while duel-wielding M-920 Cains would take care of those pansy Reapers. One look at that and the Reapers would go "...**** this ****, we gotta get outta here".





...Sorry, on a more serious note...





The Reapers saying that "Your destruction is your salvation", atleast in my eyes, is just saying that their lives are meaningless and aren't worthy of living. Being used to make a Reaper would give them purpose. They don't really care for any other race, they just want to destroy you because compared to them, your insects.



I would love to see a united fleet consisting of every race in the ME universe. Of course, the chances of defeating the Reapers by just pitting fleet vs fleet is highly unlikely. I'm thinking that maybe you will have to infiltrate Harbinger (as he seems to be their leader) and sabotage the Reapers, perhaps with some sort of super virus or something that would cripple the other Reapers. Something along the lines of Legion's Loyalty mission.

[lxDRUNKKNIGHTxl]

Humanity is the real treat they are wiping us out for a reason

[Chimerical Man]

Mad Oreo 112091 wrote...

PathofDaggers wrote...

Arcian wrote...

PathofDaggers wrote...

What if the Reapers aren't the true threat?

Last thing we need is the sorting algorithm of evil to mess things up in ME.

Just saying, it seems too straight foreward. And after hearing the things Harbinger says, I started wondering if they were actually our only hope and salvation against something bigger. Not to mention a line I remember about the Reapers trying to make a prothean reaper but failed so they made the Protheans the Collectors. And yes, Sovereign does say he is the vanguard of our destruction, but Harbinger says that destruction is our only savlvation, then we find out he is using our lifes to create a human reaper. Our destruction was, in the end, the thing that was making use eternal, making us a Reaper. Why would they make a Reaper of what they wanted to extermenate? To me a Reaper seems a form of salvation. An ultimate warrior.

Well after hearing that I'm starting to think maybe I should have taken the ship for the Illusive Man at the end of the game. Maybe it was the only way we would be able to survive...I hope I didn't just destroy the galaxy by making that choice...but I just didn't trust the IM's judgment... let's hope I was right.

That would be interesting, but I can't honestly see Bioware making the saga's happy ending depend on a highly Renegade and borderline evil-scientist-esque choice. That would almost be forcing people to act a certain way. There's always another way of doing things. I can actually see the Reaper-izing of sentients being the goal of the Reapers' invasion, though, now that you mention it...and it would make sense, considering that Sovereign made no mention of sentient beings other than the Protheans regarding the last cycle-invasion. Hmm.

[FredegarKadere]

The Controlling Body of Council Space rejects the idea of the Reapers existence. The Geth are a rarity to most and all but the military and those in the 'know', even know what they look like. If you destroyed the Collector Base you have no proof that the Collectors were anything but a bogeyman. If you let the base remain there is no way Cerberus will be making it a publicly accessible area for all races to enjoy. Much like the Derelict Reaper, I imagine their will still be a passive danger to the base if left around.



While the idea of massive waves of a united galaxy holding off and stemming the tide of a enemy invasion sounds appealing.. I just don't see it happening.



Somehow and somewhere Dark Energy/Matter will come into play, be it for good or ill.

[PathofDaggers]

Chimerical Man wrote...

Mad Oreo 112091 wrote...

PathofDaggers wrote...

Arcian wrote...

PathofDaggers wrote...
 

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Im probably wrong but Im just hoping something happens that we dont see. Much like Harbinger

[elmephd1]

Pfft, given the best paragon events of ME2 they'd probably take one look at Shepard and decide the Andromeda galaxy is looking nice this time of year.



To be a bit more serious I'm not sure how they could deal with it, the problem with insurmountable odds is the solution can tend to be a Deus-Ex-Machina (non-literal). That wouldn't be a bad way to end it, but it can feel a little unsatisfying.

[Satanic Hamster]

Indie Thompson wrote...
Didnt TIM mention that they found a planet with massive crater and then traced the trajectory or something of the blast and found that disabled reaper. That would be the planet then, would it not.

I'm calling Shenanigans on that one.

Think about it.  Galaxies move.  Solar systems move.  Stars move.  Planets move.

To trace the trajectory, they would have to know the EXACT TIME that it was hit THIRTY FIVE million years ago, as well as a mathemathical model to account for all planetary movement since then.

So I'm calling Shenanigans.

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[Ibby1kanobi]

I don't think it's going to be through combat of fleets. Probably some sort of super-weapon or virus that wipes out the Reapers collective.



There is absolutely NO WAY the entire universe could band together and destroy that fleet through normal battle. One reaper and a small Geth armada leveled the 3 council races armadas. Now imagine thousands of Reapers.



It's going to be some sort of infiltration and special weapon ending. I can almost guarantee it. Unless something universe changing is introduced in ME3.

[PathofDaggers]

Ibby1kanobi wrote...
 Unless something universe changing is introduced in ME3.

The council actually believing us and listening to us about the Reapers?

[Junker4ce]

What if that sun that is turning into a red giant because of dark energy is a signal. I mean it was on the very edge of the galaxy, so maybe thats where the reapers are making their entry point and its just a side effect of their entrance. Knowing where they plan to attack has to help us somehow.

[Sparrow475]

Paul Grayson anyone? He'll be a human implanted with reaper tech, either he'll be the key to destroying the reapers or he'll be a walking hell for everyone. All depends on whether or not he still has free will.

[Tyridian]

Probably will find out the Reapers are actually following orders from the Illusive Man. Probably why that big orange/yellow sun behind him turned blue.

[Sparrow475]

Tyridian wrote...

Probably will find out the Reapers are actually following orders from the Illusive Man. Probably why that big orange/yellow sun behind him turned blue.

Speaking of which, that's my new wallpaper. The blue sun that is. It's awesome.

[JakePT]

Nithrakis Arcanius wrote...

I'm thinking Legion/geth will play a much larger role in ME3.

Legion can die, so... no.

He'll probably play a bigger role, obviously, but I wouldn't expect anyone other than Shepard, Liara, Anderson, Udina and Joker to have a truly significant role, simply because everyone else could be dead.