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The repears could just have a status quo they need to keep, since humans killed a reaper they are deamed worthy enough to become oneImage IPBImage IPB


That is what i was thinking. Just because we were that good they offer us the "honor" to become one of them, and thus saving us from extinction, in a way. But that doesnt mean that i would take that opportunity.


If Bioware want enough people to take this route, they better make the Paragon choice somewhat bad as well. I imagine unifying everyone to fight the Reapers may have repercussions as well.

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It would be cool in ME3 if you had to do missins to unite all the races including rachni and geth. And curing the genophage would help

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The Controlling Body of Council Space rejects the idea of the Reapers existence. The Geth are a rarity to most and all but the military and those in the 'know', even know what they look like. If you destroyed the Collector Base you have no proof that the Collectors were anything but a bogeyman. If you let the base remain there is no way Cerberus will be making it a publicly accessible area for all races to enjoy. Much like the Derelict Reaper, I imagine their will still be a passive danger to the base if left around.

While the idea of massive waves of a united galaxy holding off and stemming the tide of a enemy invasion sounds appealing.. I just don't see it happening.

Somehow and somewhere Dark Energy/Matter will come into play, be it for good or ill.


I don't see it happening NOW, but I can easily see at least half of ME3 being based on gaining allies, more technology, and insights on previous reaper invasions. Even if the Council (I'm talking about my file, where the original are still alive) still doesn't wish to publicly believe you (as I think they know you're telling the truth, but scared as hell to affirm it), you could get the support of the races regardless.

I once saw a dev mention/wonder about that it sounds like a good idea for Palladon (spelling? Turian homeworld) being a place for ME2 DLC, so its not like the more important locations aren't out of the question in ME3.

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I'm thinking Legion/geth will play a much larger role in ME3.

Legion can die, so... no.

He'll probably play a bigger role, obviously, but I wouldn't expect anyone other than Shepard, Liara, Anderson, Udina and Joker to have a truly significant role, simply because everyone else could be dead.


Nah, I imagine ME3 to be an extended ME2-suicide-run; the more you have dead or unavailable as allies (characters or factions), the more you're 'forced' to adopt other methods (ala Illusive Man's tools) to win one way or another. Keeps the dichotomy of Para/Rene intact. Direct vs. Cooperative.

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What if the Reapers aren't the true threat?


This.

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I would not mind being able to come up with some very powerful, but many using old tech to throw the reapers off balance. Such as a emp (electromagnetic pulse) type of weapon to knock out, then kill the reaper ship with a thermal nuclear warhead bunker buster missile strike.



I have a few other nasty ideas. The thing is the reapers as we all know can take a beating and keep on ticking. Also, they out number us and out gun us and out tech us. To beat high tech you have to use it as a weakness. Use weapons that knock out electric such as an emp. Then do the killing blow. The only down side it that you can only use the attack once. After the attack is used the reapers will watch out for it.

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Conrad Verner unites the galaxy into a single force and leads a massive armada to victory against the Reaper Scourge by firing stars and quasars through a huge mass relay (built by the asari at the bar on Illium, by the way) at the Reapers like a slingshot. They will beg for mercy but Mighty Conrad will show them none.

EDIT: I always figured somebody would jury rig those relays into weapons or something.

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I think my pants got heavier when I saw the what had to be like a thousand reepers. How the hell in ME3 are your supposed to kill all of those. It doesn't even seem unifying every race in the galaxy would kill all of those things.


well apparently small arms fire on their eyes and ironman unibeams is enough to kill them, so between rachni, krogan, geth, and the council fleet, we might stand a chance.

seriously. 'anti-material rifle' aint no lie if its tearing through armor the combined citadel fleet barely could.

i feel you though. we've thwarted their 2 "be subtle, work in the backround" plans, now we plainly see them going with the "f**k it, we're invading" plan. i can see it the beginning of ME3 now... TIM calls you up: "Illusive man. what nefarious, nuanced, scheme so the reapers plan now?"

TIM- "well, uh, theres actually over a million reapers swarming the galaxy at once right now. any thoughts? im kindof at a loss this time."

shep- " :blink:."

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You guys got it all wrong... remember when the Citadel fleet tried to kill Sovereign? It took hundreds of ships just to even weaken Sovereign. Clearly, standard weaponry isn't enough. What humanity needs is some major new firepower! The collector ship is powerful, but remember the Collectors were pretty much made from conquered Protheans by the reapers! We need something that's even more powerful! Something inhumane! Standard weaponry won't work. We need to fight with psychological warfare! Just broadcast ANY Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus song over the galaxy's extranet and the reapers will regret ever coming to the Milky Way! Seriously... that Miley witch can make your brain explode with that damn Party in the USA song....

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Let Neo let rip IMO.


"Everything that has a beginning has an end. I see the end coming. I see the darkness spreading. I see death... and you are all that stands in his way."

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I know that united the galaxy will mean a large number of species together, but this isn't a war that is fought on the ground. That is a lot of Reapers, and the Mass Effect series has thus far been surprisingly coy about the overall strength of each species space technology. (There was the end battle of ME1, but that involved the paltry Citadel defense fleet and a portion of the Humans fleet.) It's hard to make heads or tails of how big the overall galaxy fleet size would be based on vague codex entries. I'm betting we'll get help from an outside source.

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I would not mind being able to come up with some very powerful, but many using old tech to throw the reapers off balance. Such as a emp (electromagnetic pulse) type of weapon to knock out, then kill the reaper ship with a thermal nuclear warhead bunker buster missile strike.

I have a few other nasty ideas. The thing is the reapers as we all know can take a beating and keep on ticking. Also, they out number us and out gun us and out tech us. To beat high tech you have to use it as a weakness. Use weapons that knock out electric such as an emp. Then do the killing blow. The only down side it that you can only use the attack once. After the attack is used the reapers will watch out for it.


:blink: Not this.

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I think my pants got heavier when I saw the what had to be like a thousand reepers. How the hell in ME3 are your supposed to kill all of those. It doesn't even seem unifying every race in the galaxy would kill all of those things.


well apparently small arms fire on their eyes and ironman unibeams is enough to kill them, so between rachni, krogan, geth, and the council fleet, we might stand a chance.

seriously. 'anti-material rifle' aint no lie if its tearing through armor the combined citadel fleet barely could.

i feel you though. we've thwarted their 2 "be subtle, work in the backround" plans, now we plainly see them going with the "f**k it, we're invading" plan. i can see it the beginning of ME3 now... TIM calls you up: "Illusive man. what nefarious, nuanced, scheme so the reapers plan now?"

TIM- "well, uh, theres actually over a million reapers swarming the galaxy at once right now. any thoughts? im kindof at a loss this time."

shep- " :blink:."


we've thwarted their 2 "be subtle, work in the backround" plans, now we plainly see them going with the "f**k it, we're invading" plan

That's SO what they're doing too. I bet in ME3 you get everything just ready in time and a split second later they appear LOL

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You guys got it all wrong... remember when the Citadel fleet tried to kill Sovereign? It took hundreds of ships just to even weaken Sovereign. Clearly, standard weaponry isn't enough. What humanity needs is some major new firepower! The collector ship is powerful, but remember the Collectors were pretty much made from conquered Protheans by the reapers! We need something that's even more powerful! Something inhumane! Standard weaponry won't work. We need to fight with psychological warfare! Just broadcast ANY Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus song over the galaxy's extranet and the reapers will regret ever coming to the Milky Way! Seriously... that Miley witch can make your brain explode with that damn Party in the USA song....


To address the non-joking part :P, they were fighting a Geth fleet alongside Sovereign, and both arrived out of nowhere along with Saren's entourage in the middle of the station. Chances are that a couple of dreadnaughts could take down a single Reaper, but they have the advantage of:
-indoctrination (longer term)
-their superior armor and weapons (in combat)
-biggest one is element of surprise (PWNED by Shepard!)

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I know that united the galaxy will mean a large number of species together, but this isn't a war that is fought on the ground. That is a lot of Reapers, and the Mass Effect series has thus far been surprisingly coy about the overall strength of each species space technology. (There was the end battle of ME1, but that involved the paltry Citadel defense fleet and a portion of the Humans fleet.) It's hard to make heads or tails of how big the overall galaxy fleet size would be based on vague codex entries. I'm betting we'll get help from an outside source.


Hopefully DLC ME2 campaigns (as I'm sure they just aren't small N7 mission packs) clarify this part, as its important to know for ME3.

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My guess? The various allies you've made over the two games (I.E. Rachni, Geth, ect) All gang up together to form one gargantuan galactic army with you at the lead, to beat the reapers into a mechanical paste

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SwobyJ wrote...

I don't see it happening NOW, but I can easily see at least half of ME3 being based on gaining allies, more technology, and insights on previous reaper invasions. Even if the Council (I'm talking about my file, where the original are still alive) still doesn't wish to publicly believe you (as I think they know you're telling the truth, but scared as hell to affirm it), you could get the support of the races regardless.

In other words, ME3 will be Dragon Age?  ;)

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Shepherd must hunt down astronaut John Crichton and gain the Wormhole Weapon. That should do it.

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SwobyJ wrote...

I don't see it happening NOW, but I can easily see at least half of ME3 being based on gaining allies, more technology, and insights on previous reaper invasions. Even if the Council (I'm talking about my file, where the original are still alive) still doesn't wish to publicly believe you (as I think they know you're telling the truth, but scared as hell to affirm it), you could get the support of the races regardless.

In other words, ME3 will be Dragon Age?  ;)


It's Bioware. Successfully recycling older ideas is their deal. Normally I'd fault a company for this, but I LOVE Bioware with HOW they do it <3

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He's gonna defeat them by enticing them with tea&crumpets...and when they're vullnerable he's gonna throw cake at them.

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I was conflicted on the Collector's main base, about destroying it that is. I decided to save it.

...After seeing the ending cutscene, I am no longer conflicted. The galaxy no longer has the luxery of caution when the technological rewards are so promising.

Major themes I predict for Mass Effect 3: 

-Rallying support. Do you focus on diplomacy with other species, or do you focus on strengthening humanity?
A'la Dragon Age style.

-Sacrifice. Personally I volunteer the Batarions to be the galaxy's meat shield in the Reaper Battle.

-Earth. Yup, you heard me. I predict that the Reapers will ignore the citadel and gun straight for Earth.
      Support for this theory: The reapers already put humanity in their gun sights after ME1, using the collectors to attack. After the same species objected (extremely violently, I might add) to being singled out, I think humanity has risen from "intriguing annoyance" to "public enemy #1".
      Detraction from this theory: The reapers have always conviniently had a map of all the places they could rampage to, from the citadel. This time they aren't starting out there. They're taking the long way around. They may attack there first, for the star maps, then shift their attention elsewhere, like to Earth.

-Normandy ascendant. There will probably be further opportunities for the Normandy to be improved...and I will be shocked if we don't get an awe inspiring cutscene of the Normandy leading the galaxy's fleet into battle.


But who ever heard of a doomsday-galaxy-destroying-apocalyptic-enemy like the reapers being undone by just gathering an army? I see some possibities: 
        -Exploding sun.
        -Imploding Black Hole
        -Some schenanigans involving the Mass Relays.
        -The Biotic Volus. All hail the newly arisen pudgy god-emperor.
        -Integrate Commander Shepard into the Human-Reaper remains. Behold: Sheaper! Sheeper? That    didnt come out right. Anyway. It would be awesome. 
        -Trick the Reapers into Indoctrinating Ambassador Udina. "My lord, it is abundantly clear that these humans do not, in fact, exist. It is likely a hoax prepretrated by this 'Harbinger' friend of yours to distract your administration. "
        -It's a big Galaxy. Take Miranda, your receptionist, Ashley, and some asari dancers and chill in some un-mapped star system. After the Reapers get bored with their scheduled rampage, return to council space and continue repopulating the galaxy with an army of mini-Shepards. The Reapers will not know what hit them, next time around.

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I was conflicted on the Collector's main base, about destroying it that is. I decided to save it.

...After seeing the ending cutscene, I am no longer conflicted. The galaxy no longer has the luxery of caution when the technological rewards are so promising.

Major themes I predict for Mass Effect 3: 

-Rallying support. Do you focus on diplomacy with other species, or do you focus on strengthening humanity?
A'la Dragon Age style.

-Sacrifice. Personally I volunteer the Batarions to be the galaxy's meat shield in the Reaper Battle.

-Earth. Yup, you heard me. I predict that the Reapers will ignore the citadel and gun straight for Earth.
      Support for this theory: The reapers already put humanity in their gun sights after ME1, using the collectors to attack. After the same species objected (extremely violently, I might add) to being singled out, I think humanity has risen from "intriguing annoyance" to "public enemy #1".
      Detraction from this theory: The reapers have always conviniently had a map of all the places they could rampage to, from the citadel. This time they aren't starting out there. They're taking the long way around. They may attack there first, for the star maps, then shift their attention elsewhere, like to Earth.

-Normandy ascendant. There will probably be further opportunities for the Normandy to be improved...and I will be shocked if we don't get an awe inspiring cutscene of the Normandy leading the galaxy's fleet into battle.


But who ever heard of a doomsday-galaxy-destroying-apocalyptic-enemy like the reapers being undone by just gathering an army? I see some possibities: 
        -Exploding sun.
        -Imploding Black Hole
        -Some schenanigans involving the Mass Relays.
        -The Biotic Volus. All hail the newly arisen pudgy god-emperor.
        -Integrate Commander Shepard into the Human-Reaper remains. Behold: Sheaper! Sheeper? That    didnt come out right. Anyway. It would be awesome. 
        -Trick the Reapers into Indoctrinating Ambassador Udina. "My lord, it is abundantly clear that these humans do not, in fact, exist. It is likely a hoax prepretrated by this 'Harbinger' friend of yours to distract your administration. "
        -It's a big Galaxy. Take Miranda, your receptionist, Ashley, and some asari dancers and chill in some un-mapped star system. After the Reapers get bored with their scheduled rampage, return to council space and continue repopulating the galaxy with an army of mini-Shepards. The Reapers will not know what hit them, next time around.


Amazing post :P

I would be perplexed if Earth isn't in ME3, as we already could assume its where the Collectors were eventually headed to.

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ph34r-X wrote...

I think my pants got heavier when I saw the what had to be like a thousand reepers. How the hell in ME3 are your supposed to kill all of those. It doesn't even seem unifying every race in the galaxy would kill all of those things.


You know, I've noticed -a lot- of people looking over the weapon that was used to destroy the Direlect Reaper ship you go to.  Maybe I interpreted it incorrectly, but a race stopped that ship with a massive weapon...

I really think you're going to go after whatever race did that, and get their help.

Also.. I wouldn't say 'thousands."  I played it again, and if you look in the far far background.. it looks like hundreds of thousands lol. :blink:

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How is Shepard supposed to fight them? Easy! ON FOOT.

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heh, my memory is foggy. Did TIM ever mention if the gun that disabled that reaper we board was a space-based weapon? or land-based? If it was aboard a ship, well...I doubt that thing even exists anymore. But if it was land-based, perhaps our galaxy could find it and copy the design. Something big enough to drive a canyon through a planet with a glancing blow and still have enough power to disable a reaper :) Can I haz?



But really, it would take multiple superweapons to kill the Reapers. Aren't there Hundreds of thousands of them coming? (maybe I'm wrong, might only be thousands.) Even with the combined power of the entire galaxy, it would be bloody hard to pull off, considering how incredibly tough the Reapers are built.



Sure, we killed Sovereign (with the help of an entire fleet.) And a quasi-hybrid-thingamabob Reaper. (Which wasn't finished, so that's not really a kill.) But these other ones aren't going to be by themselves, they'll have dozens or hundreds of buddy Reapers to keep the pesky humans off their backs.



I can see them falling for deceptive tricks, however. Like someone else mentioned, luring them into a starsystem and then blowing the Star to kingdom come. They haven't fought a war against someone who could effectively fight back for hundreds of thousands of years, they're going to have to brush up on their warfare tactics to deal with that, it could buy the galaxy some time and some kills from arrogant reapers.