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ttrnet

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I love Dragon Age but was anyone disappointed in the Archdemon? I slogged through 150 hours doing every single quest to get to the final battle. He really wasn't much harder than any of the other Dragons, the one from the Sacred Ashes quest or Flemeth. The only thing that made the fight more tedious was the hordes of darkspawn that got in your way.

I guess I was expecting some intelligence, some dark sentience in the Archdemon. I thought he was going to tempt me with mad dreams of power in the final fight or a to taunt me, throwing my losses and sacrifices against me. Just...nothing but more hack and slash. At least a few lines or threats of impending dismemberment in a real creepy psychic attack. I don't know. What about you guys?:blink:

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Kiwiya

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Imho, the Landsmeet is the climax of the game. Everything after that just sort of feels like a conclusion, and the easy archy fight doesn't help that feeling much. :P

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Kwanzaabot

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm surprised we didn't get any sort of villain's monologue before the fight, but what can you do?

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haroldhardluck

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Kiwiya wrote...
Imho, the Landsmeet is the climax of the game. Everything after that just sort of feels like a conclusion, and the easy archy fight doesn't help that feeling much. :P


Very Shakespearean. In the typical Shakespearean drama, the climax is in the second act when the key decisions are made. The third act just shows the consequences of the decisions. In DAO the key decision is the Landsmeet deciding to back you, the Grey Warden, and not Loghain. Everything else is the just logical consequence of that decision. I found it all quite satisfying.

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For my first character (a mage), the Archdemon was a very hard fight! That was completely my own fault, though. I'd been keeping two mages in the party at all times, and consequently my melee fighters never had to hang back and play archer--so one of them didn't have a bow at all, and it took me way too long to remember that the other did (Alistair still had the Wilds Bow, which I'd probably given him on that very first mission!). So they had to go in close...and then it would leap off to somewhere else, and the AI couldn't always find my guys a path to where it had gone.... Next time I'm DEFINITELY bringing bows for everyone, and taking the Archdemon down from a distance.

But it wasn't an anticlimax (or post-climax) for me. I found this a character-driven story, and I was still waiting to see how my character's decisions would play out.

At the Landsmeet, the most important decision my character (Alistair's lover) made wasn't how to resolve the succession. There are so many ways to achieve that! The choice that really shaped the rest of her story was her decision to execute Loghain in order to placate Alistair.

That added a lot of dramatic tension to her choices at Redcliffe (volunteer for dragon-slaying duty and refuse Morrigan's bargain), since what she was risking was now either her lover's life or her own, and she wouldn't know which until the very end. Oh, she was determined it would be hers...but until after the fight, there was no way to know. So I was very much in suspense all through the final battle.

However, my suspense wasn't about the outcome of the conflict with the Archdemon, but the one I foresaw between the protagonists. For a character not so very attached to the other Grey Warden (whether Alistair or Loghain), or one less averse to Morrigan's Dark Ritual, I can see how the Landsmeet might be the peak of the tension.

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ttrnet wrote...

I love Dragon Age but was anyone disappointed in the Archdemon? I slogged through 150 hours doing every single quest to get to the final battle. He really wasn't much harder than any of the other Dragons, the one from the Sacred Ashes quest or Flemeth. The only thing that made the fight more tedious was the hordes of darkspawn that got in your way.

I guess I was expecting some intelligence, some dark sentience in the Archdemon. I thought he was going to tempt me with mad dreams of power in the final fight or a to taunt me, throwing my losses and sacrifices against me. Just...nothing but more hack and slash. At least a few lines or threats of impending dismemberment in a real creepy psychic attack. I don't know. What about you guys?:blink:




I completely ignored the darkspawn n focused on the Archdemon... When the darkspawn came out so did my armies lol n that's the only time I used them... They were my distraction for the darkspawn so I could focus on the dragon Posted Image