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[yaesir]

cooldevo wrote...

yaesir wrote...

I have seen users that don't have the game registered in their account and their characters are being updated. It's my idea (and very possibly real) that some of those users are using pirated copies of the game, so i suggest that a player profile is not updated for those users that don't have the game registered in their account just like they can't post in some forums here.

Also I believe that those pirates are a burden on the servers here, and are possibly making things slower for legitimate users.

This!  Non-registered users can still use forums or browse profiles/projects/etc. but their character pages would not update until registered.

That is indeed what I mean, and seems fair enough for me. Locks out the possiblity of pirated copies making use of the Social Network like original users and only makes the true users register their copies.

It can't be that bad to register their game, right?

[rogue32]

what about those people who have rented the game instead of purchasing it first? i personally don't have the money to purchase the game at the moment, so i have to settle with a rental copy until i can.

[Mordaedil]

Midnight Voyager wrote...

Um. problem there. I registered and it does not show me as registered... because of bugs. Some of us who are unregistered? Aren't.

Thinking about it, it would actually help you as well, since the bugs for you not being registered could be given a clearer flow to be corrected and then you could register the game and then you could upload characters again = everyone wins.

rogue32 wrote...

what about those people who have rented
the game instead of purchasing it first? i personally don't have the
money to purchase the game at the moment, so i have to settle with a
rental copy until i can.

I'm sorry, I really hate people who rent games, so my view on this is particularly skewed. I'd say don't rent and you can afford the game so much faster. You don't *NEED* to play it now. This is just a game and I think paying owners should be given priority over "partial" owners and non-owners.

[gohan661]

I totally agree with this! I was at the store at opening time to get this game. i registered straight away and have to play with the stupid cd in the drive and my stats still don't update after that first day! ppl without registered versions what ever reason shouldn't be updated.

[yaesir]

rogue32 wrote...

what about those people who have rented the game instead of purchasing it first? i personally don't have the money to purchase the game at the moment, so i have to settle with a rental copy until i can.

I can be wrong about this but I think that it will be quite difficult for you to finish the game while renting it, the rent itself would work kinda like a big demo.

Anyway, the biggest problem I see is that there are pleople playing pirated copies here and they are having they character profiles being updated just fine, while us original users are having problems with our characters profiles.

[rogue32]

yaesir wrote...

rogue32 wrote...

what about those people who have rented the game instead of purchasing it first? i personally don't have the money to purchase the game at the moment, so i have to settle with a rental copy until i can.

I can be wrong about this but I think that it will be quite difficult for you to finish the game while renting it, the rent itself would work kinda like a big demo.

Anyway, the biggest problem I see is that there are pleople playing pirated copies here and they are having they character profiles being updated just fine, while us original users are having problems with our characters profiles.

it depends on how long one would rent it for. and i wouldn't rule it out completely that i can't muster up enough money to actually buy the game when i return my rental, not to mention unlike a demo, i won't have to start the game over from the beginning since i already have a save.

[Kwaiden]

I will have to disagree because I am probably one of those unregistered. Because of the issues with this sight at launch day etc I have 2 accounts, both with DLC and stuff accreddited to each.



I am trying to get this issue resolved due to the fact all of my DLC with the exception of +1 all ring and game are under my other users name.



Bottom line and point to the post is this, if I am having these issues, it's safe to say a bunch of others are also having the same.

[Aries_cz]

I think that the fact that "pirates" can use the game in the same way as we do is very bad.
Ad GraniteWardrobe: Im not sure how the login feature in game would react if someone logged in with an account that has registered copy of DAO with different CD-Key. I guess there would be no problem, so in theory, if the hypothetical family of gamers bought DAO copy for each member, they could registred their different CD-Keys, and play the game on one PC, but each time with different accounts logged in. But I think that everyone here will agree that would be sort of wasted money (I am not saying, that DAO isnt worth the money I paid for it).
So here is my idea (I know it is probably stupid, but anyway): Multiple account could have registered the same number, but only if the account user who used that number first would "confirm" them as memebers of family. Of course there is problem that some "pirate network" could just get one CD-Key and then there would be familiy with many many thousand members (unless that would set of some kind of warning for developers and they could make the number unregistrable again).

Modifié par Aries_cz, 13 novembre 2009 - 01:51 .

[yaesir]

No official word if this could work or not?



My idea is that the fact that those that pirated the game can use it the same way as those that did not is very bad, just like Aries_cz said. This could make it so that those pirates cannot use Bioware Social has we do, and also take a burden out of the servers.

[Neil Decurio]

I think it is fair enough that you'd have to register the game so that you can gain access to upload information to the Player Profile. Yes, you can create situations where you have a family sharing the same copy of the game, but that can be worked around by having the ability to add up to 4 family members linked to the main account (5 linked accounts in total--a household family). I guess the easiest way for those profiles to update would be for all of them to be mirrors of the main account. Change Player Profile to Family Profile in the title perhaps.

Then you have the people who are having trouble registering the game. Well, hopefully that will be resolved, so as long as you got your game and codes, eventually you should be able to have it registered.

People who rent the game, I don't see why you'd need the Player Profile to update before you decide to purchase the game. It'd upload once you registered a copy with your save file anyways, so unless you plan to buy, why get access to uploading before that time?

If you got any other type of issue, like multiple accounts needing to be merged into one, that too would also be an issue that should be dealt with accordingly, and eventually should be working as intended. It'd update for you once that little mess of problems has been sorted.

I think personally that it is a fine idea to limit uploading information for Player Profiles to only Registered Game accounts. But in all honesty, I don't mind either way. I do think it is a good and valid enough point to try prevent pirates from having all the options available to them though. Even though I doubt they'll go away crying because they can't have their character information online. They get the sweets, the game itself is what is truly amazing, the online additions are extra fluff (that I really do enjoy (even more so, if it worked properly)). That's my personal opinion anyways.

Modifié par Neil Decurio, 16 novembre 2009 - 08:32 .

[Corvus Black]

BluesMan1956 wrote...
My own suggestion was to make connecting to DAO servers on-demand instead of automatic. There is no reason for that much traffic. I would suspect that the CC doesn't generate that much traffic since the game was release.

This.

[afroyarou]

Well, perfectly legal copy here (Steam, Deluxe Edition, pre-purchase), everything registered properly, all DLC are functioning flawlessly. But there was no updates of my statistics at all, only achievements. The lone character that you can see on my profile is from CC and was uploaded long before the game release and I actually deleted her after I started playing the game, but she returned to my profile. And I can't do a thing about it, because when I click on character manage button, I keep getting "service currently unavailable" message.

[EvocatorSG]

yaesir wrote...

I have seen users that don't have the game registered in their account and their characters are being updated. It's my idea (and very possibly real) that some of those users are using pirated copies of the game, so i suggest that a player profile is not updated for those users that don't have the game registered in their account just like they can't post in some forums here.

Also I believe that those pirates are a burden on the servers here, and are possibly making things slower for legitimate users.

Non-registered users can upload their profiles? This makes a mockery of the more honest ones who spend hard earned money to support Bioware/EA.

I bought my collector's edition on the day of release. Like most people, my profile still suffers from the server's error regarding character+screenshot update...almost right from the first day i started playing.

I hate to think that those dishonest ones enjoy what they don't deserve.

Modifié par EvocatorSG, 22 novembre 2009 - 10:08 .

[yaesir]

EvocatorSG wrote...

yaesir wrote...

I have seen users that don't have the game registered in their account and their characters are being updated. It's my idea (and very possibly real) that some of those users are using pirated copies of the game, so i suggest that a player profile is not updated for those users that don't have the game registered in their account just like they can't post in some forums here.

Also I believe that those pirates are a burden on the servers here, and are possibly making things slower for legitimate users.

Non-registered users can upload their profiles? This makes a mockery of the more honest ones who spend hard earned money to support Bioware/EA.

I bought my collector's edition on the day of release. Like most people, my profile still suffers from the server's error regarding character+screenshot update...almost right from the first day i started playing.

I hate to think that those dishonest ones enjoy what they don't deserve.

Yes they can, and not only that but some of those unregistered users are pirates (now i am sure, it's statistic).

[Fieryspirit]

Now this is an idea i greatly approve of. My second character's still stuck on data more than three days back, and my third mage toon hasn't even appeared on the site yet...

[NErWOnek]

Just think a minute, those that are playing the game without registering the game on this site are quite possibly playing pirated copies of the game, so what I am saying is that those players that have not registered copies on this site simply cannot have their character updated.

burn them pirates down...

[X5Riley]

I totally agree.
I also don't think they shouldn't bother with multiple accounts at all. You pay for one copy of the game, for one person. If you want to let family members play then I see no problem with them using the same Log In... Is this not the same case for DLC? You can't buy DLC for multiple accounts so why should you link your game CD Key to multiple accounts. No, just no.
Bioware should just step up and make it so that if you have the game registered you get priority, because i'm getting rather annoyed at the fact that hardly anything here works, but that's just my opinion.

Also people who rent the game, as you said, should not gain access to it either. Why? They are renting the game, not the extras or bonus content. As I mentioned before look at this social website like DLC and it all makes sense. I bought the game, I registered it, I get access to these features.

Modifié par X5Riley, 23 novembre 2009 - 11:18 .

[Knobody13]

Is it better to harm the innocent or punish the guilty? How would you feel if your registration bugged out and didn't show up? and because of it your stuff didnt upload because bioware ASSUMES your a pirate? Until this possibility is dealt with I would say that we shouldn't be so quick to clear out server traffic. This entire site is ****ed up not a single one of my characters has shown up and I have beat the game TWICE lol

[yaesir]

Knobody13 wrote...

Is it better to harm the innocent or punish the guilty? How would you feel if your registration bugged out and didn't show up? and because of it your stuff didnt upload because bioware ASSUMES your a pirate? Until this possibility is dealt with I would say that we shouldn't be so quick to clear out server traffic. This entire site is ****ed up not a single one of my characters has shown up and I have beat the game TWICE lol

You wouldn't be labeled as a pirate, you just wouldn't be able to update your character.

And I am pretty sure that all the bugs will be corrected, and then there is no reason to allow someone that doesnt have the game registered to update their characters, and after the game is registered the characters can all be updated.

[Arkon_Atlan]

I agree

[IGoosI]

I didn't read all the posts so forgive me if I end up repeating someone. What makes you think someone who hasn't registered the game such as pirate versions can upload characters? I would think it was common sense that no one could upload from the game unless it was registered. Would be a collosal oversight on biowares part if they could but I cannot say for sure I'm speculating and unless someone from bioware says otherwise I would believe what I just mentioned first. There seems to be an issue at the moment that registrations have dissapeared I've posted on another topic talking about it as it has happened to me so it may be this you are seeing. Just a thought.

[yaesir]

IGoosI wrote...

I didn't read all the posts so forgive me if I end up repeating someone. What makes you think someone who hasn't registered the game such as pirate versions can upload characters? I would think it was common sense that no one could upload from the game unless it was registered. Would be a collosal oversight on biowares part if they could but I cannot say for sure I'm speculating and unless someone from bioware says otherwise I would believe what I just mentioned first. There seems to be an issue at the moment that registrations have dissapeared I've posted on another topic talking about it as it has happened to me so it may be this you are seeing. Just a thought.

I know that people have used this site without having an original copy of the game, if you can google well then you can also find people yourself.

Before the game was released where i live there were people using pirated copies of the game to play and those people got their character profile updated.

Fun fact: I bet that if Bioware checked some "entitled game promotions" and achievements they WILL see people with achievements from Warden's Keep and Stone Prisoner WITHOUT having those "game promotions" registered in their profiles.

Remember that they need to register the codes to download that kind of content, and yet they got to play it (and it can be seen in their profile with achievements, and data or play hours).

Just think: how can they have played that kind of content without having it registered to their profile?

Yes, DLC was pirated too.

[IGoosI]

Well if you know this for sure then I agree totally. It's a collosal screwup on bioware/EA's part by effectively not protecting their game and opening features that could easily be protected to piracy instead of taking simple steps to keep it for the people who paid for it. By that I mean characters should not be uploaded unless the game is registered to an account and only 1 account. Uploading characters from the character creation tool is fine but that character should never change unless being imported to a registered game. As for DLC. Companies spend who knows how much on pointless copy protection how about protecting this instead with a simple activated/linked to account/game code. My pennies worth.