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Bioware, Please Work On A Patch To Improve PS3 Framerate


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#251
The-Heroic

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so today i played it on the PS3. its much more fun than playing it on PC, i don't know why :D

but i noticed the framerate problems you all meantion. i didn't play it far but in ostagar the framerate drops really strong. you can't walk without the framedrop, using the camera is even worse. when I'm in the woods, its a little better, but still i can feel the framedrops.



this should not be, BioWare should fix this fast. Maybe its getting when if much more data is installed on the hard drive, i don't know.

#252
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Instead of making another DLC, how about fixing this? I won't buy the damn DLCs when you don't fix this ....

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Just adding in my two cents as well. It's not so much the frame rate that drives me crazy, but the constant frame skips that happen every second. Frame rate, I can deal with. But the frame "skipping" forces my eyes to readjust constantly and I can't focus on the beauty of the world you have created.

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Just want to add that myself and everyone else I know with this game (all ps3 owners) have this stuttering / framerate issue. We all have non-slim ps3 models, original hard drives, and play the NTSC version of the game. I hope this get's fixed soon as I've waited a while to play it (knew it was coming as a christmas present) and must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the issues with stuttering and audio going out of sync. It seems to be a fantastic game, but it's almost unplayable.

#255
The-Heroic

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I just tried it in 576p and it runs much smoother. i won't playing it in this resolution because the aspect ratio is wrong but maybe this info can help.

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hmm weird. I don't have any problem with the framerate. works perfect and smooth. so I don't understand what everyone is whining about.

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is there any difference in ps3 fat and ps3 slim? I got slim and it works perfect. ah well. god luck with your framrate, I'm off to play some epic dragon age :D

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Zealorato wrote...

hmm weird. I don't have any problem with the framerate. works perfect and smooth. so I don't understand what everyone is whining about.


We know it doesn't effect everyone. Get out.

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Zealorato wrote...

is there any difference in ps3 fat and ps3 slim? I got slim and it works perfect. ah well. god luck with your framrate, I'm off to play some epic dragon age :D

I don't think so. I have an older discontinued 80 G model (with backwards compatability), and it runs fine.

#260
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I started getting lagbursts and stuttering in Orzammar again. Noticed something curious this time around, the 'flavor' Brontos and deep stalkers near the end of the Carta base were not animating at all, completely static. Would seem to go with the thing I noticed earlier, when the Song of Courage animation was stuttering even when the characters were static. This seems to be related to the issue of enemy deaths being recognised very slowly by the engine (gear not dropping, end-battle cut scenes taking ages to go off), but the latter seems to appear occasionally separately as well.



Spellcasting resulted in the game basically stopping for a couple of seconds. Looks like there is something funky going on in Orzammar, at least (and possibly Warden's Keep as well).

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Jason Leong wrote...

We are looking into the PS3 frame rate issues (Stuttering or short pauses) that have been reported in this thread. Could those who are experiencing these issues please provide some information which will hopefully help us to reproduce these problems on our own machines.
1) Is your game NTSC or PAL?
>> PAL

2) Has anyone noticed these framerate issues when playing on 480p or lower?
I have a 50" HD Plasma, I don't want to play in 480p sorry.

3) Did lowering from 720p to 480p make a noticable performacne difference. If so, approximately how noticable was the difference?
n/a

4) Does turning off networking options in the Options Menu make a noticable difference?
Have not tried.

5) What is your PS3 firmware version. 2.70 is the minimum required/supported version but newer versions may affect performance.
V3.15

6) How much hard drive space is left on your console?
100GB (original 120GB the PS3 SLIM came with)

7) How long after you start playing does it take for the framerate issues to occur or do they occur immediately after a load/new game?
Issues are there from the very start in the character creation screen right after launch

8) Does your tv natively support the options selected on the console for video and sound?
Yes

Please keep your response specific to issues with frame rate (stuttering or pauses) during gameplay for this thread.


PS3 Slim, 120GB, Firmware 3.15.

When scrolling fast through the options at the character creation screen you already notice the performance issues as the sound/background audio will skip ever so often and the scrolling hangs for a split second. This background music skips are consistent throughout the game and occur whenever something is loaded which is the case most of the time.

It didn't hinder me to finish the game after 103hrs of game time but it was annoying at times. The menu switching, e.g. from quest to codex ands scrolling thorugh codex entries is a test of patience and I can see how it would annoy people. Even more annoying is the fact that the last used menu tab is not retained when reopening the menu, i.e. when I had the codex open, close it and open it again, it would be on quest or map or whatever but not on the menu screen I used last. Shortcuts ftw you say, still it seems rather simple to ensure a more user friendly UI behavior.


DAO on PS3 is playable but suffers from sluggish UI and framerate issues. If those can be addressed in a patch I do not know but it would be prudent to spend more time on native platform develpoment next time in order to get the most out of the hardware you offer your merchandise on.

As it is now, the PS3 version is the worst of them and cannot be recommended if you have a PC or an XBOX360 as you simply do not get the same performance/quality.

#262
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PooDart wrote...

anyone that says the framerate is so bad it makes it almost unplayable is just a whiny moron. i have logged about 16 hours on PS3 and the odd time i notice a framerate issue other than that its fine, stop whining and play the game


Ah right so you have noticed it. It will get worse, I didn't see any major issues until my second play through. oh and **** you you self-righteous ****.

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I have a 1080i CRT (tube, flat screen, HD) TV and PS3. I encounter the stuttering frame-rate issue in every play-through, esp. when panning with the camera.



Internet Connection disabled improves the situation a bit.



480i definitely removes the issue, but I agree with the sentiment that we are trying to playing this game in HD, it should work right in HD.



NTSC, North American, 20GB free on 80 GB phatty.



Any word on a patch? (I quit the game for 2 weeks, and when I came back, I think my expectations were lower ((as it wasn't a brand new game anymore) and I didn't mind the graphical problems as much.)

#264
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I just bought this game on boxing day
I can't believe Dragon Age is having the same problem as Assassin's Creed.
Nevertheless, I am glad that BioWare know about this PS3 problem, unlike Ubisoft, who just ignored and closed all threads about the PS3 framerate issues.
It's kind of weird though, the two PS3 games I bought in these two months are having framerate issues.
I should've just buy the PC version and use my GTX 275 and quad core to play

Modifié par gold123456th, 27 décembre 2009 - 06:13 .


#265
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Just wondering, what exactly do you guys mean by framerate issues? Not trying to act like a ******, I just honestly have no clue what that is =o,

#266
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If you notice a slight "lag" (ie. tiny pause") when you move the camera around your character (esp. when said avatar is moving) this is a framerate issue.



It can also be when the screen is chock full of enemies, or magic, and the movement becomes slower, or misses frames of animation. This is "framerate issues" when the game does not animate smoothly between actions.



*Framerate Issues: see BioWare's 2009 PS3 release "Dragon Age: Origins".

#267
gold123456th

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I have a feeling that the patch is gonna be out soon


#268
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What makes you say this? I complained to the Customer Service site and the sent me back a load of garbage about disabling firewalls and making sure my graphics card was up to date. Uhh, I stated clearly in my request I was using the PS3 version!



The last comment by an employee of BioWare was over a month ago.



Patch Soon? Not so much.... especially when there is more DLC to bleed, I mean release...

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Just to clarify, I have over 80 hrs. into this and think DAO is a GREAT game...

I just liked it better a few years ago when it was on the original x-box and had the "Star Wars" name in front of its title and Morrigan had a lightsaber and wielded force powers, like Force Lightning, not just regular lightning...

Modifié par vonFurious, 27 décembre 2009 - 07:25 .


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I have the 40GB fat model, is it possible that my PS3's specs are kind of outdated to play Dragon Age and the new games?

#271
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I would say "No". I read this entire thread and the issue (If you are Cool enough to Have it) occurs widely across all set-ups.



I found turning off the Internet Connection and running the game in Standard definition (boo) on an older TV set made the thing look and run just super, like a really great O.G. X-box title.



Huzzah for 2004!!

#272
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So its probably the resolution problem... the game's code should be improved for higher res


#273
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Nope playing on high resolution, got no problems whatsoever.

#274
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Why are you posting on this thread then if you don't have a problem?



Are you using HDMI connection? Running at 720p or 1080i or 1080p?



Pan the camera around the moment you spot an enemy and tell me the camera's movement is smooth. If so, good for you, but why are you here saying you don't have a problem when this thread is for problems with the game's Ps3 framerate?

#275
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thats crap, every ps3 version is the same, and it runs exactly the same on every ps3 console. some people recognize the problems, some people don't, and some just don't want to see it. the issues are there, no matter what ps3 console version.

...and yes, it seems to run a bit better when i play offline.