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saizetsu wrote...

Nevermind it's not worth a long argument.

They may be busy but this situation hardly compares to some massive company like Ford.  Why not try making a patch yourself? It's easy enough you just need to know the spots that need fixed and then you can fix them, and you need the whole want to do it.


Learn to read and write English properly before you try to make yourself look smart.

Noone is busy enough to neglect taking 10 seconds to reply on a forum post spanning 14 pages complaining about their product.

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Page 15 and counting.

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On a happier note, I've decided to forego purchasing Mass Effect 2 despite having reserved the game. Also, I will not be buying any future DLC for Dragon Age. I may reconsider if this game is patched.



In all my time of playing video games, this is only one of two that's ever had enough problems that stopped me from enjoying the game.



The main problem I couldn't deal with is that this is essentially an INCOMPLETE product. The dexterity issue is a big one and should've been fixed right away. The weapon effects like messy death and weakens darkspawn don't work and either should've stopped the game from being released until they were implemented or should've been removed completely. Same with some of the tactics options(target class, jump to). It's like leaving a useless dead appendage in the game, wasting space and giving the impression that you've paid for a game in which only HALF of it actually works.

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It needs a bit tweaking, to make it run..a tad more smootly

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Framerate has been fixed before in other games by patches.. so.. it should be possible.

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Sacrificial Bias wrote...

On a happier note, I've decided to forego purchasing Mass Effect 2 despite having reserved the game. Also, I will not be buying any future DLC for Dragon Age. I may reconsider if this game is patched.

In all my time of playing video games, this is only one of two that's ever had enough problems that stopped me from enjoying the game.

The main problem I couldn't deal with is that this is essentially an INCOMPLETE product. The dexterity issue is a big one and should've been fixed right away. The weapon effects like messy death and weakens darkspawn don't work and either should've stopped the game from being released until they were implemented or should've been removed completely. Same with some of the tactics options(target class, jump to). It's like leaving a useless dead appendage in the game, wasting space and giving the impression that you've paid for a game in which only HALF of it actually works.

As stated by a Bioware co-founder www.destructoid.com/bioware-co-founder-jrpgs-suffer-from-lack-of-evolution--155782.phtml
He forgot to say that Bioware western rpg suffer from the lack of finition (or should I say completion)
Not 6 months have passed and there's allready an extension that raise the level gap and that probably won't fix any issue by the way.

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Sambuque wrote...

Sacrificial Bias wrote...

On a happier note, I've decided to forego purchasing Mass Effect 2 despite having reserved the game. Also, I will not be buying any future DLC for Dragon Age. I may reconsider if this game is patched.

In all my time of playing video games, this is only one of two that's ever had enough problems that stopped me from enjoying the game.

The main problem I couldn't deal with is that this is essentially an INCOMPLETE product. The dexterity issue is a big one and should've been fixed right away. The weapon effects like messy death and weakens darkspawn don't work and either should've stopped the game from being released until they were implemented or should've been removed completely. Same with some of the tactics options(target class, jump to). It's like leaving a useless dead appendage in the game, wasting space and giving the impression that you've paid for a game in which only HALF of it actually works.

As stated by a Bioware co-founder www.destructoid.com/bioware-co-founder-jrpgs-suffer-from-lack-of-evolution--155782.phtml
He forgot to say that Bioware western rpg suffer from the lack of finition (or should I say completion)
Not 6 months have passed and there's allready an extension that raise the level gap and that probably won't fix any issue by the way.

And he clearly doesn't count FF: Dissidia  FFXI:Online or The Last Remnant as "different".  There are also other titles by Square Enix so carelessly left out of consideration simply because it doesn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title.  Even with that said, FF12 was so "evolved" that I couldn't even get into it, and yet, they did the Gambit system better than Dragon Age did the tactics.

While it's true that JRPGs don't seem to deviate too much from the "standard" gameplay of their older titles, at least they make their games work right.

I also found it funny that both Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 have DLC that are excluded from the game itself, yet instantly available on release day.  It seems they aren't even TRYING to hide the fact that they are 100% committed to separating you from the money in your wallet.  And customer service is almost nonexistent.  I wonder if anyone ever had a problem that was actually resolved by them.

Modifié par Sacrificial Bias, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:51 .


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I don't really mind about how the premium content is managed (and I'll pay for it if I find it's worth) and how Bioware make money. It's just that there's so many unfixed issues in this game that It's riduculous a major add-on is allready on its way.

I just come here to hear any good news about a framerate fix and allways find post about game-breaking bugs (the kind that screw you if you don't have a long list of previous saves)

http://www.1up.com/d...ory?cId=3177100
Console side, the engine has to be optimized. It's the base when making a console game as the hardware don't evolve. Or could I upgrade my ps3 graphic card. And when it comes to QA as there's no discrespencies between users (same hardware for everyone unlike PC) there should be near no bug at all.

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Sacrificial Bias wrote...

Sambuque wrote...

Sacrificial Bias wrote...

On a happier note, I've decided to forego purchasing Mass Effect 2 despite having reserved the game. Also, I will not be buying any future DLC for Dragon Age. I may reconsider if this game is patched.

In all my time of playing video games, this is only one of two that's ever had enough problems that stopped me from enjoying the game.

The main problem I couldn't deal with is that this is essentially an INCOMPLETE product. The dexterity issue is a big one and should've been fixed right away. The weapon effects like messy death and weakens darkspawn don't work and either should've stopped the game from being released until they were implemented or should've been removed completely. Same with some of the tactics options(target class, jump to). It's like leaving a useless dead appendage in the game, wasting space and giving the impression that you've paid for a game in which only HALF of it actually works.

As stated by a Bioware co-founder www.destructoid.com/bioware-co-founder-jrpgs-suffer-from-lack-of-evolution--155782.phtml
He forgot to say that Bioware western rpg suffer from the lack of finition (or should I say completion)
Not 6 months have passed and there's allready an extension that raise the level gap and that probably won't fix any issue by the way.

And he clearly doesn't count FF: Dissidia  FFXI:Online or The Last Remnant as "different".  There are also other titles by Square Enix so carelessly left out of consideration simply because it doesn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title.  Even with that said, FF12 was so "evolved" that I couldn't even get into it, and yet, they did the Gambit system better than Dragon Age did the tactics.

While it's true that JRPGs don't seem to deviate too much from the "standard" gameplay of their older titles, at least they make their games work right.

I also found it funny that both Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 have DLC that are excluded from the game itself, yet instantly available on release day.  It seems they aren't even TRYING to hide the fact that they are 100% committed to separating you from the money in your wallet.  And customer service is almost nonexistent.  I wonder if anyone ever had a problem that was actually resolved by them.


Totally agree with your take on JRPGs. The first "RPG" I remember playing was Dragon Quest for the NES (it came free with a subscription to Nintendo Power), and here nearly 20 years later, JRPGs haven't strayed very far from their menu-driven, story-intensive model. My guess is because they don't have to. What JRPGs get right, they get very right, and what they get wrong is usually very minor details that vary from game to game. JRPGs usually deliver exactly what they promise. 

In the case of Dragon Age: Origins, however, what's so disappointing about the game is not that it promised so much, but that it failed to deliver the basics before trying to reach past them and redefine the genre. Basics that have been covered here endlessly - framerate issues, missing quest rewards, choppy cinematics, enemies not registering dead (memory leaks), freezing...that's the sort of thing that breaks the illusion and takes you out of the game. Further, that's the kind of thing you're paying top dollar NOT to experience (the PS3 and XBox versions of the game cost ten dollars more than the PC version). 

Western game developers seem to be "OK" with the concept of pushing a game out before it's ready then patching it later, while Japanese companies seem to be more concerned about the quality of the product and less concerned about making launch dates. Example: Reggie Fils-Aime saying that the new Zelda won't have a launch date until "the game is perfect". 

Lastly, I do want to reiterate that I love Dragon Age: Origins and I still slog through it, even with all the problems and bugs. I just wish they had taken a little more time and care with the Mac and PS3 versions of the games. 

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Sambuque wrote...

I don't really mind about how the premium content is managed (and I'll pay for it if I find it's worth) 


That's my problem with the majority of DLC. The very definition alone "PREMIUM content"

I mean what are we paying €60 for if it isn't 'premium' content ?

Whilst there are examples of content improving a game 'burnout paradise' springs to mind, the majority of DLC is not 'premium' content, it is simply 'missing' content from the original game.


However this thread is hardly the place to discuss DLC, we simply want a patch to alleviate some of the problems PS3 owners are having with their purchase.

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I aint paying no dlc until u fix the stupid fps. U got games way better looking than this and with miles of sight and still higher fps.

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Well if they don't fix the issues within this month i'm going to sell my game and forget it. No point in waiting waiting and thus waiting some more. When there are titles that work better and are actually supported by their developers. I didn't pay 45e for a Beta-product and thus I will try and get most of my money when it's still "fresh". God knows you won't get anything from a old widely know as buggy title with no support.

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Bioware may hate Jrpg's but Jrpg's are starting to look alot better(if you hate the style, consider this tech wise) and are also RUNNING! with no framerate issues on consoles.

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If WRPGs are so much more innovative than JRPGs as that Bioware employee says, than why did they take the Gambit system from Final Fantasy XII, dumb it down to a more basic/inferior version, and then rename it the 'tactics system' in DA:O?

I'm a fan of both 'Eastern' and 'Western' RPGs, and I can honestly say that Dragon Age: Origins is one the better RPGs I've played in a long while. However, for a Bioware employee to say that current JRPGs aren't 'innovative' and implying that current WRPGs are, is kind of hypocritical in my opinion. But that is for another topic.

Modifié par Spuro, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:41 .


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I have played both the PS3 and Xbox 360 (PS3 looks a tad better - and they both have the framerate problems. PS3 a bit more so in some areas.)



This isn't something we should be hounding just BioWare for but Edge of Reality as well. Hopefully BioWare learned from their mistakes and won't work together with Edge of Reality for any other porting. From my understanding BioWare made the PC version and Edge of Reality ported it to consoles.

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Spuro wrote...

If WRPGs are so much more innovative than JRPGs as that Bioware employee says, than why did they take the Gambit system from Final Fantasy XII, dumb it down to a more basic/inferior version, and then rename it the 'tactics system' in DA:O?

I'm a fan of both 'Eastern' and 'Western' RPGs, and I can honestly say that Dragon Age: Origins is one the better RPGs I've played in a long while. However, for a Bioware employee to say that current JRPGs aren't 'innovative' and implying that current WRPGs are, is kind of hypocritical in my opinion. But that is for another topic.


Agreed, it's a inferior version of gambits.
You could do alot more with the gambits,.. there where so much more commands.

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....Soooo, Ps3 framerate issues anyone? Remember when this topic was about, you know, framerate problems?



Well I do, and guess what? I SOLVED my own problem! Back when this thread was on-topic people were reporting about their Ps3 set ups and trying to figure out why DA:O was running so choppy for some, and not others (I was one of the choppy ones).



I was running my Ps3 to my older non-HDMI, HD DVI imput TV with a HDMI/ DVI conversion cable. I switched over to the RGB/ Component cable and am now running in 720p with a substantial improvement in framerate, resolution, and no more lags between cut scenes. So my problem was clearly the HDMI/ DVI conversion.



I sure hope this might apply to some of your set-ups, I thought I was getting the most outta my TV/ Ps3 and it turns out I was just trying too hard! RGB FTW!!!

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vonFurious wrote...

....Soooo, Ps3 framerate issues anyone? Remember when this topic was about, you know, framerate problems?

Well I do, and guess what? I SOLVED my own problem! Back when this thread was on-topic people were reporting about their Ps3 set ups and trying to figure out why DA:O was running so choppy for some, and not others (I was one of the choppy ones).

I was running my Ps3 to my older non-HDMI, HD DVI imput TV with a HDMI/ DVI conversion cable. I switched over to the RGB/ Component cable and am now running in 720p with a substantial improvement in framerate, resolution, and no more lags between cut scenes. So my problem was clearly the HDMI/ DVI conversion.

I sure hope this might apply to some of your set-ups, I thought I was getting the most outta my TV/ Ps3 and it turns out I was just trying too hard! RGB FTW!!!

Not a solution, though interesting.

Modifié par greeny85, 15 janvier 2010 - 08:32 .


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So basically you can fix the fps-problems via crippling your ps3. I personally have a sony bravia and thus using something else than hdmi would cause the braviasync to be disabled. Err..not an option.



But if the problem is the conversion...damn bioware, get your stuff right!

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This game is in such **** shape it's stunning.

Maybe alliteration will catch their attention?

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This is ridiculous. Almost 2.5 months since release and still no word about a patch. I've been logging onto these pages every single day since release looking for a hint of a patch (yes, I'm one of those that think the framerate is too horrible to play the game) and still no sign of it, not even some feedback from BioWare.

3 months ago I would have bought any BioWare-game that they released without checking reviews or even trying out the demo. I just knew that everything they released was top quality. The release of Dragon Age for PS3 has changed that drastically. Bad framerate, bad graphics, stuttering sounds, lots of bugs, more loadingscreens than any game I've seen before and a total lack of respect for their customers (giving us the silent treatment).

Instead of working on a patch it seems as if they are putting all efforts into making DLCs. Well let me just say that there is no way that I will ever pay money for a DLC that is nothing more than a slideshow on my PS3 due to the bad framerate...

Someone at BioWare needs to wake up and realize how much damage this behavior is doing to BioWare's reputation... and ultimately how it will be affecting your income in the future...

Very disappointing, BioWare... :(

Modifié par Arhngrim, 16 janvier 2010 - 11:31 .


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Unfortunate to hear that the problem is there for yer HDMI to HDMI set-up. I still have stutter, and some lag, but I did manage to improve quite a bit by going with the Composite set-up. I certainly wouldn't consider it "crippling" my Ps3 by running it in 720p (my teevee is an older 1080i HD, CRT, non-HDMI (DVI)).

In no way am I suggesting that we "accept" lower resolutions, but take a close look at the game and you'll see it is suited more for a 4:3 ratio, not 16:9. Run it on an SD set and I promise you it'll look and run great. I reckon this game is one of those "not really HD, HD games".

I also reckon, seeing as how Bioware handed the port of the console/ Ps3 version over to Edge of Reality, our vindictiveness would seem to be more their baby. Bioware has, I agree, left this topic to the wind, and it would seem like perhaps this is the game we get. Sucks, but there it is.

Modifié par vonFurious, 16 janvier 2010 - 05:45 .


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... oh yes. The cable I was using was an HDMI to DVI cable I got on Amazon for dirt cheap. I certainly was not one to believe that you need to spend 30 or 60 bucks on a cable when you could get one for $3, but now, I'm not so sure...

Also, Fernando Melo in the General Discussions Thread mentions console updates when DLC Return to Ostagar is available (they've had troubles with Xbox and Pc versions this week) and mentions that updates will be free of course, but doesn't get specific about what the updates will address. 

Mayhaps perchance to dream of a silken smooth framerate?

Modifié par vonFurious, 16 janvier 2010 - 05:59 .


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Want to trade DAO for demon's souls.

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Yea man, my worst decision of 2009 was to get this game instead of Demon's souls.