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RBP83 wrote...

Ah...see, I still had to do the Legion loyalty. I was on my way to do it, actually, when the game decided to drop the Collector attack on me. I guess I have to do "House Divided" right after I find Legion, correct?


Yeah, unfortunately, you really have to rush the last few parts of the main quest line if you want the best ending possible.

That or simply not pick up the IFF device until you've tied up all your loose ends.  Though this means you won't get to use Legion for very much.

Modifié par invert180, 01 février 2010 - 05:58 .


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Does Legion's loyalty quest count as a side mission? Because that's the only one I did between the ship being overrun and going to save them. And Kelly dies. So...you can't do Legion's loyalty mission before the end? Ugh.

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As far as I know from what others have said, it does count as a side mission and will result in half of your crew getting melted down. :(

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I lad Legion do the hacking in the beginning with Samara on second team.

Then I had Samara for barrier and Jack run the crew back and Miranda lead second team.

I lost Legion to head shot right at the end of closing the doors, then I lost Jack and she stayed behind to buy some time. But that's all I lost.

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i was able to do legions loyalty quest before the attack on the ship. EDI was saying that we would need to take a shuttle but it never happened, maybe cause you need the normandy to dock at the station....still lost mordin though, think its because i didnt get the upgrade for removing scars maybe? or maybe cause i sent Zaeed back with the crew...they lived though.

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Yeah same here lost Mordin at the end of it all and had all upgrades purchased except for the med bay.

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Huh. I never upgraded the med bay because I was full on paragon and my scars vanished on their own. Do you think you had to upgrade that too for everyone to live?

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I did legion in vents, garrus lead team 1 and miranda lead team 2, samara barrier and garrus lead crew back.

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that must be it then, didnt bother gettin it as i had healed myself...plus i kinda wanted to keep the scars!

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Just beat it myself. Honestly I'm in the same boat and fairly confused. I fully upgraded the ship, have every team member loyal, and I still lost people.



I sent legion through the vents and samara to lead the squad. Legion got shot in the head closing the door.



Then I have Jack do the barrier and samara to run the distraction. Jack lives, but Samara eats it.



Everyone is loyal. Max paragon. The crew lived, and only those two died. Debating if I want to go back and try it again.



Where did I go wrong?

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doubt samaras a good leader, she works alone mostly, miranda and garrus are better team leaders. i never chose the distraction, i picked a different option...but then i lost mordin so.....

*was reading there on other forum that lots of people are having mordin randomly die at the end and its best to keep him in your party.

Modifié par K2daE, 01 février 2010 - 06:45 .


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tali through vents Jacob leads both teams and Zaeed led rescued people to the Normandy and everyone lived and samara for barrier

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I've played through three-times now, here's what I've noticed:



1). Events are at least 'semi-random'. I only have evidence for this on concurrent playthroughs for me and my friend, both went full Renegade, both had full loyalty and upgrades, and even made the same decisions (Legion hacks, Garrus Leads, Garrus leads distraction, Jack for Barrier, Tali escorts). : I lost Mordin, he lost nobody.



With that said, here are the most common easily avoided pitfalls:



1). When selecting 'team leaders' for the distraction and the second bit, the keyword is 'leader'. Characters with high leadership skills and an understanding of a team are better here. Basically, this is a fancy way of saying 'Miranda' (who is a high-ranking Cerebrus member who's done a lot of leadership) or Garrus (the dialogue is a dead give-away. 'Lead through experience'. If you look at Garrus flavor text while selecting, it literally says lots of experience LEADING A TEAM).



2). Select 'pure' characters for the hacking part. Strangely, I've had Legion make it through unscathed and Tali, but I've never heard of Tali getting killed, so, all failing, try Tali.



3). You've met exactly two super-powerful Biotics in the game. Assuming they're loyal, pick Samara or Jack--I've never heard of Jack dying.



4). Choosing which character to send away doesn't seem to have a chance-on-death, but it keeps them safe. I lost Mordin twice, so I sent him home.



5). If all else fails and you can't seem to keep a particular party member alive: Just shove them in your party. They won't die as long as they're in.

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My choices (all survived):



Tali for vent

Garrus for 1st squad

Miranda for 2nd squad

Jack for barrier

Mordin for escort

Zaeed and Legion for final battle

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Kelly died? No way!! In my playthrough she was alive with Dr. Chakwas and was escorted back to the ship

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Thrakkesh wrote...

I've played through three-times now, here's what I've noticed:

1). Events are at least 'semi-random'. I only have evidence for this on concurrent playthroughs for me and my friend, both went full Renegade, both had full loyalty and upgrades, and even made the same decisions (Legion hacks, Garrus Leads, Garrus leads distraction, Jack for Barrier, Tali escorts). : I lost Mordin, he lost nobody.

With that said, here are the most common easily avoided pitfalls:

1). When selecting 'team leaders' for the distraction and the second bit, the keyword is 'leader'. Characters with high leadership skills and an understanding of a team are better here. Basically, this is a fancy way of saying 'Miranda' (who is a high-ranking Cerebrus member who's done a lot of leadership) or Garrus (the dialogue is a dead give-away. 'Lead through experience'. If you look at Garrus flavor text while selecting, it literally says lots of experience LEADING A TEAM).

2). Select 'pure' characters for the hacking part. Strangely, I've had Legion make it through unscathed and Tali, but I've never heard of Tali getting killed, so, all failing, try Tali.

3). You've met exactly two super-powerful Biotics in the game. Assuming they're loyal, pick Samara or Jack--I've never heard of Jack dying.

4). Choosing which character to send away doesn't seem to have a chance-on-death, but it keeps them safe. I lost Mordin twice, so I sent him home.

5). If all else fails and you can't seem to keep a particular party member alive: Just shove them in your party. They won't die as long as they're in.


3 and 5 aren't quite correct. My roommate lost Jack (used as biotic, was loyal) at the biotic part, and Grunt got carried away by swarms at that point. I'll double check with him to make sure I got that right, though. This is second hand at this point.

EDIT: Nope, I was wrong. Jack wasn't loyal, which explains it.

Modifié par JawaJoey, 01 février 2010 - 08:46 .


#42
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Zaeed sucks. Don't use him for anything important.
Tali in vents, Miranda leading second squad, Grunt for escorting the crew back, Garrus leading the second squad while you are with Samara doing her biotic shield thingy. I took Jack and Thane with me for the last encounter and all survived. I should probably have taken Miranda because I think I missed some cool dialogue when you choose to blow up or keep the Reaper tech. Oh well, next time I guess.
I had all crew members except Legion and Zaeed loyal to me.

EDIT
Some people were asking about upgrading the Medical Bay, I did not do that.  I thought the only function of that upgrade was to prevent your face splitting apart when you choose a lot of Renegade actions.

Modifié par Stuffy38, 01 février 2010 - 07:36 .


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The thing I found is before you go get the IFF do a lot of research. Which means you will have to grind tho planets looking for resources. Its a pain none the lest. I know, I spend endless hours doing it for both games. In the end it paid off and thats what matters.



2nd team leader both times Garrus

Vents tali

Samara for barrier

Mordin for escort

Joab and Miranda final battle.

No one died.