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[Caozen]

For me, it's not so much the characters than it is the scenes. Some of them are just flat-out ridiculous, in animation, dialogue, or both.



Take the prisoner at Ostagar for instance. Choosing to kill him somehow enables my Mage to pull some hidden machete out of my back? Or is that even a machete? It could be a dagger...a rather huge, curvy one. I don't know, I can't tell; it's just a hunk of gray pixels.

And then, as presumptuous as this sounds, apparently my Mage is not only an adept at the magical arts, she seems to be a master in the art of hilarious killing methods! Pulling that hunk of pixels out of her back, her expression nearly as apathetic as a damn golem, she has the cunning to quickly slide her hand in and out of the guy's stomach? This wouldn't bother me much if the weapon didn't look like it was taped onto the palm of her hand. Hilarity ensued, I assure you.

There are loads of moments like these. They just don't make sense at all, in the continuous sense. Whether it be butchering that merchant at Lothering who was having his cornflakes pissed on by a bunch of equally self-righteous peasants, or tossing a blade into the back of Genitivi's head like you've been doing it for years, they're all ridiculous, and equally hilarious to consider.



As for characters, I can't say I've truly hated any of them besides Isolde. I didn't mind Arl Howe, Loghain, Ser Cauthrien, or Jowan. Most of the ones listed here are quite possibly my favorites, in fact. Cauthrien's a badass!



Hmm...nope, no one but Isolde. And I suppose that Mage in the Fade who was trapped by the Sloth Demon like you. Having him laugh in your face after telling him you're going to get out of there wasn't exactly encouraging.

[nijimeijer]

I haven't come up with a fifth yet, and these are in no particular order..  And keep in mind - despite what I say below, I love this game.  In fact, these only make me mad because they're excellently written.  They're written with these flaws and character traits *in order to make you feel something* and it works perfectly.  I'm angry at them the way I'm angry with any well written character.  None of these come off as something that's sloppy writing, or angrifying because it's a shortcut for plot development.  Rather, all of their actions make contextual sense.  Great writing, great characters, great motivations (some harder to read than others).  Perfect brew for making me emote (at length) below.

Riordan -

Echoing the statements above - this guy makes me crazy.  I understand that he didn't know Duncan hadn't told us about why Grey Wardens are needed to battle the Blight, so rather than make me super angry at him, I just get angry at the circumstances.  Sadly, I'm a human being, so that translates to me being angry at Riordan.  Damn, why didn't he just spill the beans at the Landsmeet?  What the hell.  And then, yes, getting himself killed trying to take on the Archdemon single-handedly.  I *understand* him going off separately from the other two Grey Wardens, that makes sense.

But it wasn't *his plan* to disable the Archdemon's wing.  That was a happy accident in an otherwise ill-planned and idotic single man assault on the thing.  HE TELLS YOU "Let me be the one to take the final blow!  I'm old!"  And then he jumps off of a building.  WAY TO STICK TO YOUR OWN PLAN, BUDDY.  The plan was always to get to the top of Fort Drakon.  I think those ballistas up there would have worked on its wings just as well as his sword.

Isolde -

Never mind the way she treats you when she first meets you.  Never mind the fact that she yells TEAGA' over and over.  What gets me about her is two things - first, when Teagan finally chews her out for her actions, she expresses no regret.  Sure, she jumps at the opportunity to get TORN APART to save her son, but she *still* never expresses remorse, regret, or feelings of guilt over what she's done.  Or at least if she did, she didn't do it well enough to pierce the red haze of anger I felt for her.  But really, it's the next part that gets me.

Finally, Eamon is healed, all is right with the land.  They thank me, blah blah blah, yes I know I'm awesome, thank you.  If you'll recall, Alistair has, by this point, revealed that Isolde thought he was Eamon's son, and she treated him shabbily his whole life, and was in no small part responsible for his getting shipped to the Chantry.  In fact, she treated him just as poorly as she treated me when she first showed up to yell TEAGA'.  Yet at this time, when it is revealed that Alistair is not, in fact, Eamon's son, does Isolde say ANYTHING?  I swear to God, this woman was never taught to apologize.  I don't think the words are in her vocabulary.

Duncan -

This one is complicated.  Sometimes, Duncan isn't too bad of a dude.  When I was a Dalish Elf, this guy saved my life like three times.  Yes, I had to become a Grey Warden the last time, but it was that or death.  He explained - he wouldn't have saved me if he didn't think I had what it took, but really, that just feels like a compliment, you big  softy.

Some other times, though, he's kind of a dirtbag.  For instance, as a Dwarven Noble.  Man, I got screwed in that origin.  Completely hosed by my scheming little jerk of a brother Bhelen (who would be on this list except he's too obvious).  Then, I survive the Deep Roads.  I'm pretty awesome, hm?  Duncan's like "Hey, I'll help you escape -" "Awesome, thanks Dun -" "- if you become a Grey Warden." "- can ... Wait, what?"  He can't do this simply for altruistic reasons?  He can't just help me escape because it's the right thing to do?  Same with Human Noble.  I mean seriously.  I understand he's hard up for recruits, but essentially he's forcing us into it.  Look, it makes sense with Alienage Elf - you're gonna be strung up anyhow.  And for mage, most likely Greagoir isn't exactly your pal by the end, and life in the Circle probably will either be short or unpleasant, and probably both.  I haven't touch Dwarf Commoner yet, so no idea there.  But for Dwarf and Human Noble, Duncan kind of takes advantage of your misfortune.  Thanks, dude.  You're a jerk.

Eamon -

No long explanation here.  This one takes several play throughs, and possibly Return to Ostagar to see clearly enough to add here.  But every single word that comes out of this jackass' mouth is a carefully weighed politically motivated piece of tripe.  Talk about lesser of two evils ... I'm glad things end up how they do, but Eamon is essentially one of the two masterminds behind this all.  He's a Harrowmount looking for a new Endrin, because unlike Harrowmount, Eamon realizes he can't be king himself.  It's a theme running through the game; leaders are jerks.  If he'd had a bigger role to play, Irving could be here.  Harrowmount (as mentioned).  Branka.  Zathrian.  Universally, people in power in this game are punks, and you're pretty much always dancing to their tune.  It's not until you've played several times and understand all the motivations that you realize that for all of your bravado and "influence", you're just a pawn to all of them.

[AnniLau]

Caozen wrote...
 tossing a blade into the back of Genitivi's head like you've been doing it for years

I love killing Genitivi...it's my favorite part of the Urn quest.

OK, OK, I usually reload and let him live, but I whip out my murder knife every playthrough nonetheless.

[_- Songlian -]

David Gaider wrote...
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For me, my blood boils with Anora. Like with Loghain, it doesn't matter that she might be right. I still want to drop-kick her off Fort Drakon. 

A bit late to the party, but I have to say that this post made my day. 


On topic, I don't think I have five scenes to shake my fist at, but three I can certainly count and they all revolve around Cailan and the events at Ostagar, the strategy meeting being the first one to get my blood boiling.   

[nealj85]

I got thoroughly agitated at the Dwarf thief boss. She hits like a truck, and has 80 million archers/rogues/warriors pop up to defend her, then she goes behind that freaking trap and if you're not paying attention, or you're not quick enough (like my first 10 attempts) she tricks all your melee into following her, effectively killing them.



I had to keep her CC'd the entire time until the room was clear, then I beat her face in. I think I got lucky though w/ the CC, she didn't resist it but once or twice.

[keesio74]

I've only had one. When playing the city elf, Vaughn takes the women away (including my bride) so he can abuse them. I went nuts. I didn't even use my disguise, I went into the castle looking for blood. Then when I see Shainni on the floor after she was used, it made me more nuts.



Alternatively, when I played as a city elf female, when one of Vaughn's guards killed one of the women in front of me... yeah.. same deal there.



So far nothing else came even close.

[R-F]

Loghain: evil, power hungry jerkoff. i really took pleasure murdering him and spraying his blood on Anora

Anora: apple doesn't fall far from the jerkoff

The fade portion of broken circle: when i played as a mage it took forever, really annoying. as a warrior it wasn't that bad though. i really hated missing the stat upgrades.

Lothering being destroyed: first time through i didn't know Leliana was in Lothering and when i found out it was destroyed. had to use Zev for the rest of the game, which was annoying because his ability to steal is quite lacking.

Calin's armor: its crap, my dragon bone plate armor is better, and its not even gold with a dragon face on it.

[Maximus741000]

Not to put a too contradictory point about Cailan's armour across, but its really not that bad, and it's certainly golden with a dragon's face on it. Not to mention the bonus fighting darkspawn with it really encouraged me.

[errant_knight]

Maximus741000 wrote...

Not to put a too contradictory point about Cailan's armour across, but its really not that bad, and it's certainly golden with a dragon's face on it. Not to mention the bonus fighting darkspawn with it really encouraged me.

I like it just fine. It does the job and makes Alistair look very kingly. It has to be noted here that the Devs just can't win. There was tons of complaint about the items from Stone Prisoner and Warden's Keep being over powered. They listened, dialed it back just a little, and now there's complaint that things aren't powerful enough. Hear that sound? That's the sound of many foreheads smacking on keyboards.

[RangerSG]

nijimeijer wrote...
*snip*

Duncan -

This one is complicated.  Sometimes, Duncan isn't too bad of a dude.  When I was a Dalish Elf, this guy saved my life like three times.  Yes, I had to become a Grey Warden the last time, but it was that or death.  He explained - he wouldn't have saved me if he didn't think I had what it took, but really, that just feels like a compliment, you big  softy.

Some other times, though, he's kind of a dirtbag.  For instance, as a Dwarven Noble.  Man, I got screwed in that origin.  Completely hosed by my scheming little jerk of a brother Bhelen (who would be on this list except he's too obvious).  Then, I survive the Deep Roads.  I'm pretty awesome, hm?  Duncan's like "Hey, I'll help you escape -" "Awesome, thanks Dun -" "- if you become a Grey Warden." "- can ... Wait, what?"  He can't do this simply for altruistic reasons?  He can't just help me escape because it's the right thing to do?  Same with Human Noble.  I mean seriously.  I understand he's hard up for recruits, but essentially he's forcing us into it.  Look, it makes sense with Alienage Elf - you're gonna be strung up anyhow.  And for mage, most likely Greagoir isn't exactly your pal by the end, and life in the Circle probably will either be short or unpleasant, and probably both.  I haven't touch Dwarf Commoner yet, so no idea there.  But for Dwarf and Human Noble, Duncan kind of takes advantage of your misfortune.  Thanks, dude.  You're a jerk.
*snip*

Just to note, Dwarf Commoner should be firmly in the "Let me kiss Duncan's shoe" category. Because it's pretty clear that what the Dwarves are about to do to your PC is going to be about as pleasant as William Wallace's execution in Braveheart.

I personally don't think the Dwarf Noble has much right to complain either. Even on the surface, your life is going to stink and be purposeless. You'd never be able to get your life back. And you could never get revenge on Behlen. Duncan is offering you more than 'escape.' He's offering you a chance to make a difference. Which for someone who has just been sentenced to an utterly pointless and undeserved death, ought to be at least somewhat appealing. Plus as a Grey Warden, you're still in a position to give Behlen what he has so richly earned...the broad side of an axe between his legs.

So given the choice between being Gorim and the life Duncan offers you, is there really a serious choice? Human noble is the only one that I understand the howling over. But even there, I think Duncan wasn't asking for anything Bryce wasn't ready to give, but that's my reading of the dialogues where it seems to me that Eleanor and Bryce are at odds about whether or not your PC should go south.

[melkathi]

RangerSG wrote...


I personally don't think the Dwarf Noble has much right to complain either. Even on the surface, your life is going to stink and be purposeless. You'd never be able to get your life back. And you could never get revenge on Behlen. Duncan is offering you more than 'escape.' He's offering you a chance to make a difference. Which for someone who has just been sentenced to an utterly pointless and undeserved death, ought to be at least somewhat appealing. Plus as a Grey Warden, you're still in a position to give Behlen what he has so richly earned...the broad side of an axe between his legs.

So given the choice between being Gorim and the life Duncan offers you, is there really a serious choice? Human noble is the only one that I understand the howling over. But even there, I think Duncan wasn't asking for anything Bryce wasn't ready to give, but that's my reading of the dialogues where it seems to me that Eleanor and Bryce are at odds about whether or not your PC should go south.

The question isn't what quality of life the dwarf noble would have had if he reached the surfae and didn't become a Warden. The question is: Could Duncan simply have said "We are returning to the surface, if you want, you can tag along" ? He definitly could. What he did do though was say "Either join the Wardens, we'll take you with us to the surface and you will live or we'll leave you here, alone and eventually you'll need to sleep and the darkspawn will eat you."
Saving the dwarf noble would have had no nasty repercussions for the wardens. Duncan could have simply done it because he could and it would have been no effort. It's not like the city elf, dwarf commoner or mage backgrounds were he is using the right of conscription to save you from the law, possibly making powerful people angry.
Or at least that's what I understand people to be saying. Need to replay the noble origin sometime soon myself to freshen up my memory regarding that dialogue.

[Sabriana]

The only one who had compelling reasons to become a Grey Warden is the Dalish elf. She (or he) will die of the taint if she doesn't submit to the ritual. All others could be saved in other ways.

The CE could have been taken to the Dalish

The HN could've been helped without blackmailing her dying father

The DN and DC could have been taken to the surface without being blackmailed into joining

After helping them, Duncan could have asked them to volunteer. Whether any one of them would have taken his offer is of course debatable, but he never even gave any of them the chance to say "No".

[DPSSOC]

Sabriana wrote...

The only one who had compelling reasons to become a Grey Warden is the Dalish elf. She (or he) will die of the taint if she doesn't submit to the ritual. All others could be saved in other ways.
The CE could have been taken to the Dalish
The HN could've been helped without blackmailing her dying father
The DN and DC could have been taken to the surface without being blackmailed into joining
After helping them, Duncan could have asked them to volunteer. Whether any one of them would have taken his offer is of course debatable, but he never even gave any of them the chance to say "No".

Could Duncan have done these things out of the goodness of his heart, yes.  Had this been another time would he, maybe (I don't know the character well enough to say).  However he needs recruits and does not have the luxury of time, so he needs to be slightly despicable in these things.

Now that I've defended Duncan and his beard I just remembered another Rage moment.

In the CE origin if you chose to say nothing when that guard shows up after killing Vaughn that one Elf rats you out.  First time that happened I was thinking, "You ****!  I'll kill you!"

[Sabriana]

Oh, I agree. I just wanted to point out that there were other choices for helping the origins - for all but the DE.

Plus, would Duncan have just left them to their fates had they flat-out denied him? If so, he wouldn't have a recruit anyways.

CE declines - she most likely dies

HN declines - she most likely dies

DN, DC declines - they most likely die

And good old Duncan would have ended up the way he entered - with no recruits. Had he rescued them, and then asked, the odds might have been better.

[Ceinwenswan]

Seeing the beginning of the battle at Ostagar gave me goose-bumps as well as the scene when all the troops I've gathered go to Denerim to fight the darkspawn and archdemon. "For Ferelden!" The music in both these scenes is epic!



But what got me the most was the display of Calin's of body in RTO.

[odiedragon]

5) Maric's Sword in RtO being made of Red Steel.  And, actually, RtO itself was pretty much nothing but a grumble-fest for me.  But that in particular had my yelling at the screen.

4) Zathrian.  When the truth about what was going on with the "curse" came out. I wanted to murder knife the bastard then and there.  But, my city elf wanted to know his side of the story first...  Now I just always go for the "good" ending there, because the bastard still dies, and I can't bring myself to slaughter the Dalish.  Dude!  That's my elfroot supply!  I neeeeed that for health potions, man!

3) Eamon.  Power-hungry hypocrite.  Someone up-thread compared him to Harrowmont, and I've had the same thought.  Eamon wants power, and he knows his power will be more secure as Alistair's string puller than if he tries to push his own weak claim to the throne.  He's treated Alistair like a pawn his entire life, up to ane including the whole Landsmeet thing.  The hypocrite part comes from my own personal bias, how he married for love but then turns around and rags on Alistiar about his "duty".  But my true (and truly stupid) rage moment?  HIS BEARD.  Gawd man, it's called a razor.  Or maybe just a pair of scissors.  You're bloody rich enough, HIRE A BARBER.  Seriously dude.

2) Isodle.  We hates her.  We hates her and the trope she rode in on.  Yes.

1)  Gorim.  With one breath, he says he never stopped believing that I would escape from the Deep Roads.  IN THE VERY NEXT BREATH he talks about his new wife and the child they're expecting.  If you thought I was dead?  I'd totally understand.  But YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK I WAS DEAD.  You TOLD me to meet you Denerim.  I came there the first chance I got.  And this is the thanks I get?  Screw you, oh, and screw the rest of the world too.  They can have Anora, and Alistair and I will have the Grey Wardens and each other.  Suppose we should stop the Blight though, 'cause if the world is destroyed we won't have anywhere to run off to and be sickeningly besotted with one another.

Err, sorry.  Channeling my Lady Aeducan a bit too much there.

Modifié par odiedragon, 03 février 2010 - 06:05 .

[spottyblanket]

1.Jowan's fear of being made tranquil felt very cuttingly sad to me. I just thought: Oh god, he must be so scared, and I'd have no idea what to do if that were me! And not being able to save him either, even though I knew his character wasn't actullay a bad guy (I can think of people that do far worse than him). Either he gets killed or he gets sent back to the circle. You can't save him. I wanted to smack The Arl of Redcliff's wife Isolde a few times after that one....



2.Going through the deep roads and hearing the *voice* you know what I mean, pretty horrible and harrowing.



3. Branka.



4. A lot of the things Morrigan says are so cruel. I want to hit her. I do like her character but I kind of hope (haven't finished yet), she gets a good reality slap.



5. The werewolves. I actullay STILL wanted to kill them. I dunno why, they just annoyed me. Beast or not. Their actions hardly made them 'victims' I felt like saying, what about the others you JUST killed? Got on my nerves





3.

[nyxocity]

David Gaider wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...
well Loghain doesnt need to be the hero that slays the archdemon in my eyes at least

all he needs to do is act as a distraction and "accidentally" get eaten by the archdemon during the fight

So if the point is just for him to die, why not kill him at the Landsmeet? Why give him the honor of becoming a Grey Warden in the hopes he might die heroically fighting the Archdemon -- a fight you're not even sure is about to happen yet, or how many might be involved in it?

This right here. This is why my none of my PC's have ever, and NEVER WILL spare Loghain, unless I one day do a play through simply to unlock the achievements associated with Loghain. All my characters are with Alistair on this one, for varying reasons. There was one split second, during my first play through, when he accepted his pending death with such dignity that for a that split second, I was surprised enough to have a second thought--and then I remembered everything that had happened up to that point and, no, off with his head. Admittedly, I can and occasionally metagame now with regard to certain outcomes, but this is one thing that my character always feels just as strongly about as Alistair does. I get why he leaves, completely. I would, too. Although I probably would've still shown up for the final battle. (as a side note to Mr. Gaider, who I'm so sure cares about my opinion: I wish the game had given at least a footnote about that regret on Alistair's part, I hate that we have to get that information outside the game)

5. All that said, strongly as I always feel that Loghain needs to die, he makes me the least angry, though he ranks in the top five. If you think the battle at Ostagar cannot be won, don't offer your support and then back out unnannounced; tell them you're not going to support them. Anything else is betrayal and murder. I think he makes me the least angry of all these five because his actions are more passive/aggressive in the background than in my face.

4. Morrigan. I know. I DO like her sometimes, I really do. But her constant nastiness with other party members and b****y comments whenever I do something that appears to be even slightly morally right have resulted in me getting really, REALLY angry with her, to the point where I've wanted to hurt her. Let my father get sold into slavery so I can attain some power? I don't think so. My solution now is just to leave her in camp 90% of the time, and I like her a lot better now.

3. Isolde. Besides her voice (which grates my nerves); utter disregard for human life and utter selfishness that I associate very much with the very noble, rich and privileged who think the rules of the world only apply to the common people, and that common people are fodder to make her world keep turning. It's clear she looks down her nose at everyone except Teagan, at least until after you save her and her son.

2. Anora. For all the reasons discussed here. She is politics, pure and simple, and she doesn't care a whit for the people of Ferelden except the ones who are "important". You? You've been running this country for the last five years? YOU'RE the reason Ferelden has been able to get to this point and I've had to do all this work? As someone before me said, "To the tower with that chick every time". Also? That cute, twirling fingers thing she does while speaking as if to appear girlish and harmless and charming. Using fake, feminine wiles to curry favor by appearing charming on top of politicking? BLEH.

1. Arl Howe. I played a HNF my first playthrough, and let me tell you, I was speaking my own character dialogue at the screen--spitting it, more like it. Same thing on my second playthrough as a female city elf. I didn't need sentences to select on the screen; I had it all in my head, said it all out loud in response to his words, and I don't think I was ever so satisfied in the game as when I killed him.

Oh, I forgot Vaughan and my CE origin playthrough in general, but you all probably know that goes without saying.

Modifié par thenyxie, 04 février 2010 - 05:07 .

[Lesclaig]

Im gonna get in on this one.

5. Arl Howe - He's manipulating Loghain and messing up a whole load of things for you. Especially if you play human noble. He's a nasty slimy snake character.

4. Anora - When she betrays you when you rescue her is the ultimate rage. Plus she's just a politician all are lies and slander.

3. Loghain - He's the bad guy and d bag who killed the cailan.

2. Isolde - I didn't trust her the minute she ran up to Teagan and asked for help, will gladly kill her everytime.

1. Morrigan - I liked her and romanced her my first play through but was ultimately pissed at the end. I had convinced myself that I could change her ways and make her be with me at the end of the game. Instead I get a darkspawn baby and Morrigan sex at the end. Not cool man... not cool.

[ChickenDownUnder]

1. The way Duncan went about recruiting a human noble PC. The only home your character has ever known is being attacked, several family and friends are killed, your father is dying and mother soon to be as well... and Duncan uses that as a bargaining chip to make you join the Wardens. In that play-through I ended up despising him.



2. Alistair's hissy-fit at the Landsmeet.



3. The Chantry as a whole; all-controlling religions have always managed to irk me.



4. The noble's son that rapes the PC's cousin.



5. Arl Howe



^ Not in any particular order.

[Nobody Important]

5. Alistair. Total douche bag. Execute him every time I play a male human noble and marry Anora.
4. Isolde. Never admits her wrong doing. Obviously in love with Tegan.
3. Rirodan. Idiot runs off to slay the archdemon alone.
2. Return to Ostagar. All the equipment is useless. It sucks even when you level it up to dragonbone. If it was around equal stats to the good stuff I would use it. Sadly it isn;t though. So there is no point in going there except for experience.
1. Arl Eamon. A very evil man. Forcing Alistair be king so he control the throne. Obviously wants the throne for himself but knows he can't have it. Never going to make Alistair rule alone as long as I am around. He also tries to tell Cailian to divorce Anora. Plus he decides to have a civil war instead of negotating with Loghain for now. He can be dealt with after the blight. He also never lets me save Jowan which is why I want to be able to conscript him. I wish they never cut that from the game.

Modifié par Nobody Important, 04 février 2010 - 06:12 .

[Posioned]

AnniLau wrote...

Caozen wrote...
 tossing a blade into the back of Genitivi's head like you've been doing it for years

I love killing Genitivi...it's my favorite part of the Urn quest.

OK, OK, I usually reload and let him live, but I whip out my murder knife every playthrough nonetheless.

I do the same thing. I can't help but find what Alistair says after killing him amusing. "Was murdering a defenseless old man really nessasary?" Yes Alistair it was. But then I feel bad and have to reload.

[Lambs09]

I'll just do two:
2) Anytime Anora opens her mouth. I don't know if it's her voice actor, her script, her animations or just the character model but anytime she talks she makes my blood boil.
1) Alistair dumping me after my first playthrough when I made him king. I honestly thought he used me for sex then dumped me when he had a convenient excuse. I had him kill the Archdemon out of vengeance.
Second play through I flipped Alistair's gender preference and he lived happily ever after with my male mage.

Modifié par Lambs09, 04 février 2010 - 07:08 .

[ENCHANTMENTSSS]

YAY My first post ever... ...



5. Sandal surrounded by Darkspawn and we don't get to see him go all Danny Bonaduce on their ****E$!!!



4. That weak suck Dalish Elf who was whining about how the Keeper wouldn't give him permission to leave camp to get a pelt so he could wed Gheyna. If you love her... BE A MAN! DO WHAT U GOTTA DO! I was glad on my 3rd playthrough I was a male mage and hooked up with Gheyna. Kudos to SRELSA for your post on this topic.



3. The time when Allistar says he'll take the crown for the very purpose of killing Loghain.



1st. That's one of the worst reasons to want to be any leader. Ok so you kill a guy through revenge, spite, what have you... ... Then what?

2nd. You're going against the counsel of a Senior ranking Grey Warden. Yes I know Riordan just started his part in the last 10 mins of the game as some posts state but regardless he is still a higher ranking Grey Warden and in any militaristic group there should be some semblance of order. You should at least consider, if not bend to his wise counsel. We swore oaths to defend the land of Ferelden at any cost and if that means allowing a great swordsman to live long enough to kill X amount of darkspawn for the good of the land and its people then our own personal feelings and emotions be damned. Whew, been waitin to get this one of my chest for some time.



2. Allistar dumping my elf arcane mage for XYZ reasons.



If I may borrow from the epic comedy Coming to America. You're the friggin King! You can change or make your own rules!

I just wanted to type my own response: "You're dumping me? Do me one favor... Tell me how my Spellweaver tastes when I jam it down yer friggin throat u friggin C U Next Tuesday!!!"



Drum Roll



1. I'll get you Howe!!!!! If it's the last thing I do!!!



Yes ADDAI67 I did put my party on hold to go mano es womano with this putrid waste of air and blood. Of course, that's after I casted a force field spell on him and introduced his goons to the Maker. I screamed out Mother and Father repeatedly on the human noble scene with mother telling me to go.



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[TripLight]

ENCHANTMENTSSS wrote...

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