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#176
Jonathan Shepard

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It wasn't as bad as I was expectin'... seems only Aria and Jack used the f-bomb, but any more than that I would've been worried ME2 was trying to go too mainstream with the cursing. But, Joker cursing everything out during the attack on the Normandy actually had me laughing, since it was so understandable in his situation... Jack and Aria just seem to curse to fit their characters, not because the situation really called for it. I was expecting worse. So I was pleased.

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I have to admit, i was expecting Jack to spit out the words in a distasteful manner. But i was surprised at the amount of f words in the game. I counted about 4-5 in total.

#178
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Too long of a thread to read all of it...does no one realize the letter "M" on the packaging stands for something? And why on God's green earth would you find cursing more offensive than offing hundreds of people?

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Paiel Saavuj

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Methodjew wrote...

Too long of a thread to read all of it...does no one realize the letter "M" on the packaging stands for something? And why on God's green earth would you find cursing more offensive than offing hundreds of people?


Why in the world would you post in a thread that you've not read?  Do you really think your opinion is that much more important than everyone else's?  Do you realize you've said the same thing that's been said over & over?  Add something worthwhile to a thread. 

Now -- who cares about people being 'offed' in this thread.  He asked about a profanity filter, not a moral judgement.

#180
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Methodjew wrote...
Too long of a thread to read all of it...does no one realize the letter "M" on the packaging stands for something?

This was already discussed and responded to by many people earlier.

Methodjew wrote...
And why on God's green earth would you find cursing more offensive than offing hundreds of people?

Please read the OP before making an irrelevant comment.

#181
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I ended up here looking for a filter because I don't want Mass Effect to teach my 5 year old daughter any new words.

I personally don't care about others' use of swearing.  Or nudity.  Or violence.

I don't let her watch the game because of the violence.

I can't play it if she is IN THE HOUSE because she can hear it.  5 year olds have really good hearing.

I can't play with headphones because then I can't hear her coming and prevent her from seeing it.

I only get to play for a couple hours a week while she is out.

Mass Effect is awesome.  It sucks I hardly get to play it.

#182
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barrysolo wrote...

I ended up here looking for a filter because I don't want Mass Effect to teach my 5 year old daughter any new words.

I personally don't care about others' use of swearing.  Or nudity.  Or violence.

I don't let her watch the game because of the violence.

I can't play it if she is IN THE HOUSE because she can hear it.  5 year olds have really good hearing.

I can't play with headphones because then I can't hear her coming and prevent her from seeing it.

I only get to play for a couple hours a week while she is out.

Mass Effect is awesome.  It sucks I hardly get to play it.

Of course, a violence filter would be rather weird.

Paragon Interrupt Hugs for everyone!

#183
Ray Joel Oh

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My initial reaction to this thread was rage, but the more I think about it the more reasonable a request it seems.



Incidentally, for those of us not interested in filters, I thought the language of the game was fitting. And I always appreciate when games treat us like grown-ups. It's important for the medium to cause a few monocles to be dropped.

#184
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you forgot something. this game is M 'mature'. so violent, bad ass language required. actually, I enjoy it so much. otherwise, the whole game would be so bored, plain.

#185
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KainrycKarr wrote...

I give up. You're right, it's totally unreasonable, unfeasible, and unrealistic to add or request something as minor as few bleeps here and there. These horrible people should be hung and humiliated.

Also, why is there no nudity in ME2?! There is violence and swearing! There should be blue boobage too!




If you think I'm being serious, shoot yourself.


Actually is is rather unreasonable in the grand scheme of things.

I've seen a lot of people mention that it is rated M by the ESRB scale. This scale was developed for people to get a good idea of what they can expect from the game. And a company has to pay a heafty price to submit to the ESRB, have average people go into a screening of a large majority of the content, and then grade it.

Thus, when you purchase an M-rated title that states it has strong language and then say that it needs a language filter is asking the developer to utilize extra resources because of the language... After they already spent a heafty price to submit the game to be reviewed by the ESRB and to be rated... Just to be sold. Thus you have plenty opportunity to make an informed choice as to the product.

So, as to the original statement, the industry has already provided a large safe-guard (and fund it outside of government funding) to allow this informed choice to occur. But since people want to play the game but not be offended by the language they should put in an extra filter for it? It isn't that easy to actually place the filter into the game to cover the recorded lines, as they'd have to make two sets. Two sets of the same lines takes up a hell of a lot of disc space. Which means they must now increase their production costs. Or they have to make a portion of the program constantly scan these dialogue lines (which I suspect is a bigger pain) to apply this beep to prevent people from being offended. All the while they already placed a regulatory system for the consumer to know what they can expect while playing.

So, I suppose the best counter is why do they need to increase production costs which will transfer to everyone when they already must pay a high price to be rated (of which their own industry created the organization and allow regular people to determine the rating)?

Modifié par Alneverus, 12 mars 2010 - 09:44 .


#186
yummysoap

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Fuck.

Ha-ha! Your precious minds have been soiled by my terrible language!

Amidst the headshots and point-blank murders you can now consider your innocense destroyed. MUAHAHAHA.

Modifié par yummysoap, 12 mars 2010 - 09:48 .


#187
superimposed

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How about: Grow up. If you're offended by rude words you shouldn't be playing a game that involves mass slaughter.

#188
ModerateOsprey

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I don't believe that Bioware should even consider a filter. It is the thin end of a wedge. If they do that, what's next? Can we have alternate cut scenes etc? Self censorship is insidious and communicates you are not really comfortable with what you have produced.



I am a mature gamer and I want to to play mature games. I am pleased that finally we are getting some mature science fiction in computer games. These may or may not include bad language, nudity, violence etc.



There is a Hollywood trend at the moment for self censorship so that a film does not attract an 18 certificate as this hurts them badly at the box office. I really don't want this to happen to games.



In terms of the swearing ME2, I personally, have found none of it inappropriate and in keeping with the context of where swearing is used.



As for keeping the game out of view/hearing from kids in the house, well that is a parental responsibility and is not that of the game's author.

#189
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At the end of at least half of my convo's with TIM, a big ol F.U. pops into my head. I support a patch that would add this convo ender. And maybe also an F.O. option to decline recruitment of some characters like Zaeed and Jacob. Yeah. Maybe Jack too. And while we're at it, change "Resume" to F!!! after I get killed. I'd really like that.

#190
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*alarms begin to sound* Prude alert!!! Prude Alert!!! Prude Alert!!!!